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my email to prez barker about the classless coot fans….

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Posted: Nov 26, 2012 7:42 PM
 

and opposing fans getting the seats of Clemson fans:

President Barker, on Saturday the classless behavior of an overwhelming majority of Gamecock fans was beyond ridiculous. I have been going to Clemson games since 1984 and never have seen the kind of behavior that I saw at Clemson on Saturday night. A lot of these Gamecock fans smelled like a combination of beer and urine. Normally when I come up to Clemson the air is clean breathing. This past Saturday with the inundation of Gamecock fans, all over campus was the rancid smell of beer and urine. During the game, I was personally taunted non stop the whole game by a group of six Gamecock fans. One even challenged me to a fight, which of course I avoided. Some games I bring my nephew to the game with me. Luckily it was a night game and I was unable to bring him up with me, due to the game being so late. If the game was during the day I would have brought my nephew to the game. I'm glad the game was at night, so that my nephew wasn't exposed to the classless and drunken behavior of the Gamecock fans. Football games at Clemson have always been a family environment, and it always should be.

I've noticed in Clemson's game against South Carolina in 2010 and this year, there were an unusual large amount of Gamecock fans which I have never seen before when the Clemson vs South Carolina game has been played up in Clemson. Why is that? Why is it now that over the past 5 years opposing fans have seats where Clemson fans used to be? Are Clemson fans being priced out of their seats? Are seats being bought up by businesses that sells tickets to Gamecock fans when the game is in Death Valley? It used to be that tickets for the opposing teams fans were in one section in the north upper deck and a quarter of a section of the north lower deck. Now opposing fans have seats all throughout the stadium. Something needs to be done to make sure Clemson fans are sitting where they have traditionally sat, and opposing fans seat where they have traditionally sat. If tickets are being sold to businesses that sell tickets to opposing fans, that should be put to a stop. This past Saturday was supposed to be Solid Orange day. Well the only part of the stadium that was solid orange was the student section. The rest of the stadium was nowhere close to being Solid Orange, due to too many tickets being sold to Gamecock fans. Again, this is just unacceptable. On Solid Orange Day, the stadium needs be packed with Clemson fans, not 60% Clemson fans and 40 percent Gamecock fans. The administration, athletic director, coaches, and players of South Carolina have all have been making disparaging remarks about Clemson University over the past few years. Clemson should not be giving extra tickets to the fans and University that conduct themselves in this manner. As a Clemson fan and IPTAY member, I should not be subjected to opposing fans taunting or challenging me to a physical altercation. Something needs to change in the ticket policy to make sure Death Valley is Solid Orange every game played there. And without a doubt it should be Solid Orange against our rival. What's happened in 2010 and this year is unacceptable.

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Re: my email to prez barker about the classless coot fans….


Posted: Nov 26, 2012 7:45 PM
 

Agree but doubt if Parker will care or do anything. When fans are acting like that, can't you go find a security guard or policeman? I certainly would have


Seriously?

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Posted: Nov 26, 2012 7:48 PM
 

What in the h€%# is he supposed to do about that?


You're right Barker probably won't, but somebody needs to...


Posted: Nov 26, 2012 7:51 PM
 

say something. I thought about getting security, but I just chose to ignore them even though they were constantly taunting me. Besides I would have had to pass them to go get a security guard, so who knows what could have happened then.

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Posted: Nov 26, 2012 8:26 PM
 

The worse thing that you could have done, was to do nothing. I'm sure other Clemson Fans around you wouldn't have let any harm come to you. Especially if you would have asked them to look out for you. I'm disable and sometimes have to use a cane because of the severe leg pain from nerve damage from Five major back operations. The handle portion has exactly one pound of lead poured into it for the reason that I have never in my life let others threaten or run over me or my wife. I do take it to billy brice when we play there. I will bring it the next coot game in the Valley if I can afford the ticket. I had to pay a $387.00 speeding ticket on the 21st, so the game was out for me this year. The judge cut the fine to $225.00, but that still cut out the trip plus ticket for me. But if I'm at a game, I would never watch the other fans run over one of ours. No way, no how in this life time.

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Re: my email to prez barker about the classless coot fans….

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Posted: Nov 26, 2012 7:52 PM
 

kind of like what happens when the "we got to have a night game" crowd gets their wish. long ### lines to the bathroom, people pi$$ing in the parking lots, sitting in said parking lots for 2 hours before being able to leave. but hey them night games are the shizzle.

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That doesn't happen at night games when we are not playing..


Posted: Nov 26, 2012 7:53 PM
 

the coots.

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Posted: Nov 26, 2012 8:23 PM
 

p--ses on Main St., Greenville, S C Go downtown Cootville and you will see that. I rarely go there bit I have seen it twice in the Vista. No telling what you might see 5 Points.


Oh I know this very well, I live in Irmo right outside of...


Posted: Nov 26, 2012 8:25 PM
 

Columbia. Going to 5 points or the vista, is like going to that bar in the movie Roadhouse, the Double Deuce before Patrick Swayze's character cleaned it up.

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Re: Oh I know this very well, I live in Irmo right outside of...

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Posted: Nov 26, 2012 9:02 PM
 

> Columbia. Going to 5 points or the vista, is like
> going to that bar in the movie Roadhouse, the Double
> Deuce before Patrick Swayze's character cleaned it up.

You live in Irmo? You obviously have high standards. Bet you love a good chain restaurant.


Don't eat at chain restuarants, by the way Irmo is the...


Posted: Nov 26, 2012 9:07 PM
 

richest part of the Columbia area, you idiot coot. Most people in Irmo, don't even bother going to Columbia, because Columbia has nothing more to offer over Irmo. Another coot ignored in 3,2,1. Go back to the cesspool you came from.

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Irmo is the best the Midlands has to offer. Columbia is a

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Posted: Nov 26, 2012 9:23 PM
 

Greenville/Charleston want to be and it will never get there.

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Irmo isn't the richest area in Columbia, Chapin is


Posted: Nov 27, 2012 6:10 AM
 

Irmo is now filled with low income housing. Chapin doesn't have cheap apartments and is full of million dollar lake houses.

20 years ago Irmo was nice, but now it really is nothing but chain restaurants, a mall, and lots of traffic.


Eat more fiber gramps***


Posted: Nov 26, 2012 8:19 PM
 




Amen! Night games & Clemson do not mix. Clemson home

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Posted: Nov 26, 2012 9:19 PM
 

games are best on cool autumn afternoons. The color & pagentry of Clemson comes alive in the afternoon games, and we are just as loud and "electric". Check out Treadwell beating UGA and the MD "Rising Above" game for noise and electricity.

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^^^exactly^^^***


Posted: Nov 26, 2012 9:28 PM
 



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Re: Amen! Night games & Clemson do not mix. Clemson home


Posted: Nov 27, 2012 10:57 AM
 

Amen

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Re: my email to prez barker about the classless coot fans….


Posted: Nov 27, 2012 10:54 AM
 

Agreed! I got home at 5:20AM.

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Re: my email to prez barker about the classless coot fans….


Posted: Nov 27, 2012 10:44 AM
 

I have been to many Clemson/Carolina games, some in Columbia, and have never had a problem with any of their fans. If you treat people right, they will normally treat you right. I did get cussed at by a drunken Georgia fan, who could hardly stand up in Athens one time for no apparent reason other than wearing a Clemson shirt.


Re: my email to prez barker about the classless coot fans….

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Posted: Nov 26, 2012 7:47 PM
 

you know people sell their seats right? you know barker can't do nothing about that?

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If businesses are buying up tickets and selling them to...

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Posted: Nov 26, 2012 7:52 PM
 

opposing fans he can do something about that.

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Posted: Nov 26, 2012 7:56 PM
 

they can sell them to whoever they want...thats just the reality of it. I see what you are saying about opposing fans sitting in different areas but the fact is that it happens at every stadium. i would think that is something that should be directed more to IPTAY than the president

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I don't see that at other college teams stadiums….


Posted: Nov 26, 2012 8:06 PM
 

most schools, like we used to, have the opposing fans sitting in one section of the stadium. But your right, maybe that should be directed to IPTAY.

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I have attended every USuC game in DV since 2002,


Posted: Nov 26, 2012 9:15 PM
 

and I have seen their fans throughout the stadium that entire time. To be expected as close as their school is to ours, and considering that many CU fans have USuC fans as friends, etc.

That said, there have been more USuC fans at the 2010 & 2012 games than the previous four I attended, but probably because their program is significantly better now.

However, it is WAY overblown to say that 40% of the crowd was USuC fans (my guess is 10%, or less). No way that 60% of the crowd can make that much noise.

All you really need to do is replay the game and see the disparity.


dude, their fans were louder than our fans for a lot of the


Posted: Nov 26, 2012 9:27 PM
 

game. Can 10% of 82,000 be louder than 90% of 82,000?

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Posted: Nov 26, 2012 9:44 PM
 




Re: I have attended every USuC game in DV since 2002,

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Posted: Nov 26, 2012 9:50 PM
 

i have been at every rivalry game in Death Valley since 1996 and there are definitely more of our fans showing up. its not anywhere near 40% though. it isnt as much as the number of clemson fans who were at wb in the 80s either. more of our fans are travelling now and there are tickets out there if you really want to find them. plus, like the poster above said, there are tons of people who come in mixed groups due to family or friends who have who pull for the other team and have tickets.

where i sat i didnt see any bad behavior from either fanbase. everyone cheered for their team and respectful of everyone else.


Normal seats

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Posted: Nov 26, 2012 7:55 PM
 

Last week we asked all of those around us (in seats we have had for years) if they were going to be there. Those that were not guarenteed they would not sell to gamecocks. Nonetheless when my husband and kids got there one gamecock girl was on her knees drunk beside them and one couple two rows up cursed at them the entire game including dropping the fbomb towards my oldest. My daughter left the game in tears. I doubt the Administration can do anything either but we as season ticket holders should pressure fellow IPTAY members to just hold on to the tickets if they cannot guarentee who sits there. The rivalry is just too nasty now. That said....afternoon games may be different. We decided yesterday we would no longer attend the USC game. It is PG 13 at best.

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My question is, is it just IPTAY members doing this,…..


Posted: Nov 26, 2012 8:14 PM
 

or is IPTAY it self selling tickets on stub hub, or is IPTAY selling tickets to businesses who in turn sell it to opposing fans? With as many gamecock fans that get tickets now, the SCU game is not a game you want to take your child to. I, as adult don't like to be around that kind of environment. The last game I went at Williams Brice stadium was in 1995 when we beat them pretty handily. I have been to about 7-10 games at WB stadium and knew the behavior of their fans was terrible, but that day it was magnified 1000 times. I decided back then that I would never go back to a game there, and still haven't till this day. I give the Clemson fans that do go down there, when we play them, a lot of credit for braving that crowd. Last year, they had an armed robbery and a stabbing at WB stadium during the Clemson vs SCU game.

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Posted: Nov 26, 2012 8:25 PM
 

Who knows......we felt confident our "seatmates" were honest and we asked all around. My kids are 10 and up and we prepped them. It was their first cu/usc game....and their last until hopefully they are students at Clemson. Our mistake-7pm was asking for trouble.

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There should be an IPTAY policy, that if you as an IPTAY….

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Posted: Nov 26, 2012 8:29 PM
 

member know and have proof of another IPTAY member selling tickets to a gamecock fan for the Clemson vs SCU game in Death Valley, there should be a penalty to that IPTAY member that they cannot get tickets to the Clemson vs SCU game the next 3 times it is played at Clemson.

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I don't think there is anything Barker can do about ticket


Posted: Nov 26, 2012 7:54 PM
 

selling, but he CAN do something about out of control fans, through more or better security. Of course, security can't do much if they are not alerted to belligerent behavior (from both sides at times, and I am a CU fan).

All that said, I am not sure where you sit, but there was nothing close to a 60/40 split in the sections around me. More like 96/4.


I was talking about the stadium over all with 60/40 split...


Posted: Nov 26, 2012 8:16 PM
 

I sit in the lower south deck and there were plenty of gamecock fans sitting where Clemson fans had sat all year.

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and I saw Gamecock fans with handfuls of tickets prior to


Posted: Nov 26, 2012 8:16 PM
 

the game trying to sell them. How did those Gamecock fans get enough tickets where they had to sell?


I think I saw that same dude that you saw. All I did….


Posted: Nov 26, 2012 8:23 PM
 

was shake my head and thought how pathetic Clemson and their fans have got, when they start selling large amounts of tickets to our rival.

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I had one Coot fan next to me


Posted: Nov 26, 2012 8:09 PM
 

wore cameo and a safari hat. Was drunk out of his mind. He would talk to me and offer me nachos and say "this is just a game after all" But then during the plays he would be saying "#### Clemson" "#### you Watkins" "We about to stomp that ###!" "Kill him Clowney!"
then during timeouts talk to me like we were best buds.


Well, no one said USuC fans were smart...***


Posted: Nov 26, 2012 8:12 PM
 




How are the backwoods, redneck sector of their fanbase


Posted: Nov 26, 2012 8:32 PM
 

getting these tickets. The tickets are expensive. I don't watch the show so don't go there, but I have seen clips. THe show I'm talking about is Honey Boo-Boo. The South Carolina fans that used to get tickets to the Clemson away game used to have to be pretty high donors. Now, they unload a bunch that looks like they are from Honey Boo-Boo lifestyle. Where are they coming from?


I live in the Columbia area, and let me tell you….


Posted: Nov 26, 2012 8:40 PM
 

it's not their backwoods, redneck fans that are the nastiest, it's their middle class and rich fans that are the nastiest. There backwoods, redneck fans are so poor that they couldn't have bought tickets to the game. Yes, now some of their redneck fans might be nasty, but you would be surprised how many of their fans that are middle class or rich that are so nasty. You can be fooled though by how some of them look, some of their middle class and rich fans look like inbred backwoods hillbillies. SCU just recently built some new athletic facility, it was named after some donor who gave millions for the facility and the guy looked like one of the inbred hillbillies from the movie Deliverance.

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Sounds like they are acting in a way they wouldn't want


Posted: Nov 26, 2012 8:46 PM
 

co-workers and friends to know about. Somebody should start filming them showing their a$$es and put it on the internet for the world to see.


Re: my email to prez barker about the classless coot fans….

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Posted: Nov 26, 2012 8:45 PM
 

So, it is okay when Clemson students, fans, coaches, and athletes make disparaging remarks about South Carolina and then crowd into Williams Brice...

I knew you were thin skinned and a hypocrite but this made me laugh!


SCU disparage's it self by handing out paper degrees….


Posted: Nov 26, 2012 9:03 PM
 

and the classless way their administrators, professors, AD, coaches, and players carry themselves. Remember SCU has a professor that is a member of a white supremacist group.

Not wanting to get into a fight over a football game is not thin skinned, it's called being a mature adult. Something a coot like you wouldn't know about.

Now your on ignore in 3,2,1. Go back to the cesspool you came from.

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Embarrasing!

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Posted: Nov 26, 2012 9:26 PM
 

If you sent this exact email to President Barker and are a Clemson graduate, I am personally embarrassed for all the Alumni out there! There are Buffoons at every game, on both sides, par for the course. Get over it and learn how to write / type a legibly! It's like you never finished middle school with this crap!


legibly, incorrect spelling….


Posted: Nov 26, 2012 9:31 PM
 

buffoons doesn't get capitalized. Coot fan please don't try to be a grammar queen. It's like you never finished kindergarten.

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Re: legibly, incorrect spelling….

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Posted: Nov 26, 2012 9:35 PM
 

It does when it is meant to make a point. But you wouldn't understand the technicalities of the English language would you! Please stop posting in your drunken stupor. You are embarrassing us all!!!!


Coot fan give it up, there was nothing wrong with my...


Posted: Nov 26, 2012 9:37 PM
 

grammar. You tried and you failed. Go back to the cesspool you came from. Do you think anybody believes that your a Clemson fan? ignore in 3,2,1

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Re: Coot fan give it up, there was nothing wrong with my...


Posted: Nov 26, 2012 9:40 PM
 

This crap really is your life isn't it! Pathetic! Have fun with you hangover on Tuesday Morning! Good night and god help you and all your issues!


you're.....ironic and funny***


Posted: Nov 26, 2012 9:42 PM
 




What do you want him to do about it?


Posted: Nov 26, 2012 9:29 PM
 

That was stupid

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So you like so many opposing fans sitting where Clemson...


Posted: Nov 26, 2012 9:32 PM
 

fans have traditionally sat at. That's just plain stupid.

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So what do you want him to do?


Posted: Nov 26, 2012 9:40 PM
 

It's none of Barkers business who fans sell tickets to. Nothing he can do about it, so why bother him with it?

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Did you read the part where I asked how tickets were being..


Posted: Nov 26, 2012 9:53 PM
 

sold? I don't know whether it's from fans on their own, IPTAY selling tickets through stub hub, or businesses buying tickets and selling them to opposing fans. If it's from IPTAY selling tickets through stub hub or businesses buying tickets and selling them to opposing fans, then Clemson can put a stop to it. It seems like you gleaned over my post, and just was trying to find a way to insult me. Sorry, but I don't want to go to a game and have an opposing fan try to start a fight with me. If you like that kind of environment, then that's your preference. As for me I don't like it, and somebody needed to address this with Clemson. He has a public email, I give to the University. So what's wrong with me forwarding this concern to him? Do I think anything will be done about it, no. But when you give money to an organization and you have a concern then you have every right to present that concern.

Maybe your ok with less Clemson fans attending games. I'm not. If it's due to ticket prices driving some Clemson fans out of season tickets, businesses buying up tickets and selling to opposing fans, or IPTAY selling tickets through stub hub, then there needs to be a stop put to that.

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Gotcha***


Posted: Nov 26, 2012 10:48 PM
 



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losing stinks, huh

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Posted: Nov 26, 2012 9:29 PM
 

;)

lol


only teenage girls, "lol"….


Posted: Nov 26, 2012 9:35 PM
 

and keep up with the op, it had nothing to do with the out come of the game.

You can tell me this personally since you know this very well, being white trash stinks, huh?

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Posted: Nov 26, 2012 9:41 PM
 




Yep, but not as much as you do, coot.***


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Re: my email to prez barker about the classless coot fans….

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Posted: Nov 26, 2012 9:53 PM
 

Good read. Will save and read to the grandkids one day.

You guys are really taking this one hard.


You need to learn reading comprehension…..


Posted: Nov 26, 2012 9:57 PM
 

the post wasn't about the loss, it was about the behavior of coot fans and how more and more tickets are being sold to opposing fans. But you're a white trash coot fan, so you wouldn't get that.

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Re: You need to learn reading comprehension…..


Posted: Nov 27, 2012 11:02 AM
 

My nephew saw the Tiger Fan flipping everyone off on TV...He's been flipping everyone off since Sunday....guess children just act alike


Re: my email to prez barker about the classless coot fans….


Posted: Nov 26, 2012 10:39 PM
 

Instead of sending an email to Barker after the fact, you should have gotten a security guard and had the offenders escorted out.


Re: my email to prez barker about the classless coot fans….

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Posted: Nov 26, 2012 10:45 PM
 

Holy wall of text.

Paragraphs?


Re: my email to prez barker about the classless coot fans….

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Posted: Nov 27, 2012 12:29 AM
 

This may be the funniest thing I have ever read. Boo freaking Hoo...


Re: my email to prez barker PRICELESS!!!

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Posted: Nov 27, 2012 4:02 AM
 

Tigerking this is the most crybaby post I've seen on Tigernet recently. Some of your replies are even better. Calling Irmo the "richest part of Columbia" bahahahaha, you can't be serious!! Then pointing out that the worst USC fans aren't the poor ones....but the worst are the middle class/rich fans. That their hillbilly redneck fans can't afford tickets. So I guess you know someone's economic status just by seeing what kind of football fan they are?? Let me tell you....I know some very wealthy rednecks! Anyway. I could go on but it's not worth it, you don't seem to be the type to listen to other opinions....you seem like the "I'm always right all of the time" type. Hope you snap back into reality soon.


Sounds to me like we need more security and a NO harassment


Posted: Nov 27, 2012 6:22 AM
 

of other people rule. The should go both ways. Break it and you will be banned from the stadium and the parking lots. Banned from the parking lots so the victim can't be attacked for reporting. There should be a cell phone APP for making the report to security and it should be kept private.
People should be able to enjoy the game they paid for. This type activity has turned deadly recently in NFL stadiums. Things can quickly escalate


Re: my email to prez barker about the classless coot fans….

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Posted: Nov 27, 2012 10:39 AM
 

did not read. quit being such a #####


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