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Notre Dame was up 10-0 when Dungey left


Posted: Dec 17, 2018 6:38 PM
 

He had thrown one int, nearly two, and been hit multiple times. Syracuse's fg to make it 36-3 came with 15 seconds remaining. Babers/announcers said game was not even nearly that close. Also, their backup had replaced a healthy Dungey to lead a comeback win two weeks prior.

The Wake Forest game was 49-13 when we pulled our starters in the beginning of the fourth quarter. I've seen some say we struggled with Wake.

Florida State game was 42-13 early in the 4th too when we pulled our starters and eventually ran out the last 6:35 without scoring. It was also 24 degrees and Book did not take a snap.

Just a heads up for some of the transitive property comparisons I've seen.


Whatever helps you sleep Princess!!

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Posted: Dec 17, 2018 6:41 PM
 

Lie to yourself all you want.

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Re: Whatever helps you sleep Princess!!

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Posted: Dec 17, 2018 6:45 PM
 

He may be a coot. Sounds like he'd be proud if ND lost by less than 10 points.

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Re: Whatever helps you sleep Princess!!


Posted: Dec 17, 2018 6:49 PM
 


He may be a coot. Sounds like he'd be proud if ND lost by less than 10 points.



If we are as bad as some say we are then Clemson should be happy to have drawn us instead of upset that commentators are saying we can be competitive.


Re: Whatever helps you sleep Princess!!


Posted: Dec 17, 2018 7:47 PM
 

Do you think y'all are better than us at any position? TIA.


Re: Whatever helps you sleep Princess!!


Posted: Dec 17, 2018 8:11 PM
 


Do you think y'all are better than us at any position? TIA.



Secondary easily. Perhaps linebacker. Offensive line is a push. Kicker/punter. Tight end.


Re: Whatever helps you sleep Princess!!


Posted: Dec 17, 2018 9:39 PM
 

Y'all have a total of 2 guys who could play D at Clemson.

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Re: Whatever helps you sleep Princess!!


Posted: Dec 17, 2018 9:44 PM
 

David78® said:

Y'all have a total of 2 guys who could play D at Clemson.



Gilman, Love, Pride, Coney, Tillery, maybe Tranquill.


Re: Whatever helps you sleep Princess!!


Posted: Dec 18, 2018 7:24 AM
 

"Gilman, Love, Pride, Coney, Tillery, maybe Tranquill." - So that's why I thought your D was "tranquil". 'splains it I guess.

You can keep pizzing into the wind, and we will just keep pointing the fan. Bless your heart.

BTW: Did Manti Te'o ever find his girlfriend? 42-14 is the result for ND the last time (2012) that you guys thought you were worthy of playing for a NC. LOL Man, you're hopeless.


Re: Whatever helps you sleep Princess!!


Posted: Dec 18, 2018 10:28 AM
 

So our passing D is better statistically but you believe you have a better secondary? Our rushing D is much better but you believe your LBs may be as good as ours? Why do you think that? Yes Love is good at Corner but Mullen and Terrell are as good as they come with much better height than Love.


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Posted: Dec 18, 2018 11:50 AM
 


So our passing D is better statistically but you believe you have a better secondary? Our rushing D is much better but you believe your LBs may be as good as ours? Why do you think that? Yes Love is good at Corner but Mullen and Terrell are as good as they come with much better height than Love.



I think that a lot of those statistics have to do with having 3 of the top 6 DL in the country (and that includes Joey Bosa). That definitely helps the secondary on passing plays and helps the linebackers on running plays. Julian Love was 1st team AA in 4/5 major publications. Troy Pride is a very good counterpart, and Alohi Gilman has been named to a couple AA teams at safety.

As far as linebacker goes, Coney and Tranquill are a darn good pair too. Coney was Pro Football Focus' 1st team AA I believe and Tranquill won the Wuerffel award.

They will have their hands full and then some next weekend.


Re: Whatever helps you sleep Princess!!


Posted: Dec 18, 2018 12:52 PM
 

Sounds like a pretty solid group. It is a good thing that our O is one of the best in the nation. Ofcourse it will not be easy but I doubt y'all can hold us under 30 and with the D we have it will be very difficult for y'all to score 4 TDs.


Re: Whatever helps you sleep Princess!!


Posted: Dec 18, 2018 2:00 PM
 


Sounds like a pretty solid group. It is a good thing that our O is one of the best in the nation. Ofcourse it will not be easy but I doubt y'all can hold us under 30 and with the D we have it will be very difficult for y'all to score 4 TDs.



Thats what I think our formula to winning would be. Our defense is much stronger than our offense, so ideally they are able to hold Clemson to 24 while the offense converts any red zone trips and gets to 28. Not saying it will happen, but I have more faith in the Defense's end of the bargain than the Offense's. That's based on our personnel.


Re: Whatever helps you sleep Princess!!


Posted: Dec 18, 2018 6:58 PM
 

Well I have seen our O play bad before but not often. Our secondary has been beat bad twice this year so there are for sure some things ND can do to score some points. BV with a month to prepare will be hard to move the ball on tho. Special teams could come in huge. If y'all get a spark there it could change the game. This will be the first big time game for both QBs really so whoever handles it the best will give their team a huge advantage. I hope to see both teams bring their best and leave it all on the field. May the best team win. Y'all have a heck of a coach so I know he will have his team ready.


Re: Whatever helps you sleep Princess!!


Posted: Dec 18, 2018 10:43 AM
 

Btw I am not knocking yall. Props to the grrwr season and I believe y'all are for sure a top 4 team or atleast deserve to be. I would say secondary is a wash along with OL. Y'all may have a better kicker and I will give you the pass catching tight end advantage. Book has been great and y'all have a dang good RB. Being better at 2 of 3 positions just is not enough tho. I don't think y'all can hang but I hope it is a good game. We just have too much talent.


Re: Whatever helps you sleep Princess!!

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Posted: Dec 17, 2018 9:46 PM
 

Honestly, I was shocked the committee didn’t serve you guys up to Bama by jumping OU up to #3. Their justification would have been the lack of a conference championship but I thought for sure they would do like 2015 when they jumped Mich St. over OU so we would get beat up by Oklahoma first. It worked.

I think everyone is happy with the draw. Are there people saying we are unhappy to have the easier opponent? Even if it’s “one of those days” and you guys win, I still don’t think anyone would believe our secondary would have done better against Kyler Murray in the semi.

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Uh, a lot of us are happy with the draw. OU


Posted: Dec 18, 2018 6:57 AM
 

would have been a much stronger challenge.

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Re: Notre Dame was up 10-0 when Dungey left


Posted: Dec 17, 2018 6:41 PM
 

^^^ for the "50-10/bye week" crowd. Not the "may be tight but I see clemson winning by 4-14 crowd" (which I would say is accurate)


Re: Notre Dame was up 10-0 when Dungey left

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Posted: Dec 17, 2018 6:44 PM
 

JHop?

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Re: Notre Dame was up 10-0 when Dungey left


Posted: Dec 17, 2018 6:47 PM
 

I think those are Gamecock fans who try to paint us into a corner by underachieving no matter what the score is. Polls and ratings don’t matter any more so survive and advance is the goal. Should be a good game. I predict 31-20 unless we fumble away two more punts.

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Re: Notre Dame was up 10-0 when Dungey left

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Posted: Dec 17, 2018 6:44 PM
 

What did you say the problem was with Pitt?

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Re: Notre Dame was up 10-0 when Dungey left


Posted: Dec 17, 2018 6:46 PM
 

They got routed by Miami. That's the problem with Pitt.

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Re: Notre Dame was up 10-0 when Dungey left


Posted: Dec 17, 2018 6:50 PM
 


What did you say the problem was with Pitt?



You guys know darn well how pesky Pitt can be. They beat Clemson and Penn State last season.


Re: Notre Dame was up 10-0 when Dungey left


Posted: Dec 17, 2018 6:52 PM
 

TheGipper said:


What did you say the problem was with Pitt?



You guys know darn well how pesky Pitt can be. They beat Clemson and Penn State last season.



Also, I think that was the only team that was as much as tied/leading us with less than 25 minutes left all year.


Not true. Pitt sucks. You’re thinking about two years ago.

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Posted: Dec 17, 2018 7:07 PM
 

This year’s Pitt team is nowhere near as good. The Pitt team that did beat us got a LOT of help from the officials.

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Posted: Dec 17, 2018 9:48 PM
 

Pox on them

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Posted: Dec 17, 2018 7:33 PM
 

You sound like Kelly, talking about how they played teams last year, last was 2017, this is 2018. And Pitt didn't beat us last season!!! We didn't even play Pitt last season!!! Like I said, you sould like Kelly with the huge belly!!!

https://www.tigernet.com/2017-Clemson-Football-Schedule


Miami beat y'all down last year and we beat Miami down!!!

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Re: Notre Dame was up 10-0 when Dungey left

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Posted: Dec 17, 2018 7:38 PM
 

42 - 10 is not pesky.

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Re: Notre Dame was up 10-0 when Dungey left

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Posted: Dec 18, 2018 1:27 AM
 

TheGipper said:


What did you say the problem was with Pitt?



You guys know darn well how pesky Pitt can be. They beat Clemson and Penn State last season.


Umm... That was 2016...


Clemson wins BIG

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Posted: Dec 17, 2018 6:45 PM
 

See you didn't mention that it took a LAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAATE comeback to beat Pitt LOL



You're not in our league. It's not the 1960's anymore.


Vegas knows

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Posted: Dec 17, 2018 6:45 PM
 

and you're still a double digit underdog.


Re: Vegas knows


Posted: Dec 17, 2018 9:24 PM
 

Just like Vegas knew to have tOSU as the favorite against us in the CFP a few years ago? What did Vegas know then?

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Ohio St was favored by 1 point


Posted: Dec 18, 2018 4:37 AM
 

not a huge upset

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Posted: Dec 17, 2018 6:50 PM
 




No properties needed. We are going to win. Thanks for playing.***

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Posted: Dec 17, 2018 6:55 PM
 

BTW, something Catholics may not realize is that Baptists have been around even longer than you's guys. In fact, the Gospels explicitly document the ministry of a fellow who went by the name of John the Baptist who came before Jesus. I don't know what this has to do with football, but since we're arguing about who is better based on our games vs Syracuse, thought I would throw that out there too.


Seriously? The Catholic Church was the first formal


Posted: Dec 17, 2018 7:04 PM
 

Christian Church. The word Catholic simply means "universal".

Two thirds of all Christians world wide are Catholic.


Re: Seriously? The Catholic Church was the first formal

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Posted: Dec 17, 2018 7:32 PM
 

Got one. ;)


I like your team


Posted: Dec 17, 2018 6:56 PM
 

Nothing but respect from me. That said, I think the spread is probably about right. Vegas could be wrong though. Should be interesting.


Re: Notre Dame was up 10-0 when Dungey left


Posted: Dec 17, 2018 6:56 PM
 

Did you intentionally leave out the Pitt game?


Re: Notre Dame was up 10-0 when Dungey left


Posted: Dec 17, 2018 7:16 PM
 


Did you intentionally leave out the Pitt game?



Addressed Pitt above. We did not play well. I've seen a bunch of people here stating the Syracuse game would have been different if Dungey didn't get hurt though. Also, when asked if ND was the best team they played Babers said "They are a lot better than people think they are and deserve every bit of where they are."


Again, Vandy and Wake both had 400 yards of offense

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Posted: Dec 17, 2018 7:00 PM
 

against ND. ND struggled to beat a 5-7 USC team, your only "big" win was less impressive after Ohio State pummeled Michigan.

It took a 4th quarter TD for ND to beat Pitt at home 19-14. The same Pitt team Clemson pounded 42-10. The Pitt coach was asked which team was better, ND or Clemson, his comment was no comparison, Clemson is much better and deeper than ND.

We typically play 60-75 players a game.

ND is a double digit underdog against Clemson for a reason


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Posted: Dec 17, 2018 7:02 PM
 

During the postgame press conference, Pittsburgh coach Pat Narduzzi said that he was so impressed by the Tigers that it dwarfs the competition when his squad played Notre Dame tough earlier in the season.

"There's no comparison," he said between the two teams. "Clemson is the best football team we have played this football season. They deserve to be where they are. They'll probably win a national championship, in my opinion. It's a good football team from the front end to the back end as far as the talent they got. Dabo's done an incredible job."



Read more: https://www.tigernet.com/update/Narduzzi-on-Clemson-Theyll-probably-win-a-national-championship-31717#ixzz5ZzNMBXRI

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Re: Notre Dame was up 10-0 when Dungey left

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Posted: Dec 17, 2018 7:03 PM
 

UHhh...we were playing backups (2nd and 3rd string) IN THE FIRST HALF against Wake, FSU and Pitt. Any knowledgeable fan knows you can't compare scores...that's like saying the coots were almost as good as us in 2015 LOL.


With that said, I expect a close ballgame.

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Posted: Dec 17, 2018 7:08 PM
 

We posted 698 yards vs Wake to their 249
ND posted 566 and gave up 398
+7 more points for Clemson offense against the same team on the road
Clemson gave up 24 less points

We posted 524 yards vs FSU to their 247
ND posted 495 gave up 322
+17 more points for Clemson offense against the same team
Clemson gave up 3 less points at FSU during much better weather

We posted 419 vs Pitt to their 199
ND posted 344 gave up 242 (ND had multiple circus catches that will be difficult to replicate)
+23 more points for Clemson offense against the same team
Clemson gave up 4 less points in the pouring rain on a neutral site

We posted 469 yards vs Syracuse to their 311 Clemson had a lot going on and gave up 3 turnovers
ND posted 463 yards gave up 234 vs a backup QB and received 3 turnovers.
-9 points for Clemson offense against the same team
Clemson gave up 20 more points

Say what you want but outside of the one outlier against Syracuse our offense and defense has outshined ND's in almost every game except when our QB quit and TL was injured in the 1st half and we gave up 3 turnovers one of which was inside the 10. I like our odds and feel good about our 1-on-1 matchups across the board.


Exactly. We put up better #’s while constantly rolling in backups the entire game***

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Posted: Dec 17, 2018 7:11 PM
 



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Posted: Dec 17, 2018 7:13 PM
 

Yes, we don't "put in the backups" we rotate from start to finish until all starters are out and we're rotating 2nd and 3rd string.


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We ain't Cuse, bubba rooski


Posted: Dec 17, 2018 7:33 PM
 

Nor any other transitive property. We are the hurt. Get ready for it.

Go Tigers.

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Re: Notre Dame was up 10-0 when Dungey left

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Posted: Dec 17, 2018 7:46 PM
 

Man we got no chance with your Domers!! And with the AP Coach of the Year on your Team. We might as well just fold our tent! After our Tailgate that is!! And spot the #### ball!!!!!!! We're Ready!!!


Re: Notre Dame was up 10-0 when Dungey left


Posted: Dec 17, 2018 7:53 PM
 

Each game is different but the one constant is that on a neutral field and with everything even, the most talented team will win. Who do you think has the most talent, CU or ND?

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Posted: Dec 17, 2018 8:26 PM
 

saddis56 said:

Each game is different but the one constant is that on a neutral field and with everything even, the most talented team will win. Who do you think has the most talent, CU or ND?



Clemson. Don't know how you figure your first sentence is an absolute though.


Hey Shamrock, we played evrybody that dressed out in those


Posted: Dec 17, 2018 7:55 PM
 

games.......What was your excuse for the pitiful showing against Southern Cal?

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Re: Hey Shamrock, we played evrybody that dressed out in those


Posted: Dec 17, 2018 8:24 PM
 

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games.......What was your excuse for the pitiful showing against Southern Cal?



If pitiful is being up a couple touchdowns with a minute to go against your rival then looks like we both finished the season pitifully.


As you stated about putting in the subs, we were up 49-21

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Posted: Dec 17, 2018 9:10 PM
 

with 12 to go and then put in everybody.....You seem to know a lot about that game. I am thinking, instead of the Gipper, you might be The Clucker.

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Re: As you stated about putting in the subs, we were up 49-21


Posted: Dec 17, 2018 9:13 PM
 

Spud® said:

with 12 to go and then put in everybody.....You seem to know a lot about that game. I am thinking, instead of the Gipper, you might be The Clucker.



Your starting running back scored with 40 seconds left when you could have kneeled.


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Re: As you stated about putting in the subs, we were up 49-21

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Posted: Dec 17, 2018 9:43 PM
 

TheGipper said:

Spud® said:

with 12 to go and then put in everybody.....You seem to know a lot about that game. I am thinking, instead of the Gipper, you might be The Clucker.



Your starting running back scored with 40 seconds left when you could have kneeled.


And after we put in the 70th + player in the game at 49 - 21, the scoring would have been over. However, when u5c kept their starters in and scored 2 more times that option was taken off the table. If they wanted to keep playing, they should have stopped ETN with 12 seconds left. It was a message to tell u5c that we could score on them all day. Look at GT and when Johnson removed his starters, the scoring stopped. Not the only times this year.

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Member the stunt SCar pulled vs Florida in similar situation

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Posted: Dec 17, 2018 9:45 PM
 

2 weeks prior? They chumped out and shot the gap on the V kneel at the end of that other loss. Instead we gave the ball to our dude up the middle, up the middle, and he still wasn't stopped 8 yards out. That's on them.

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Posted: Dec 18, 2018 3:01 AM
 

with about a minute left in the game , to score a final touchdown, to beat,THE CITADEL, by 21 I think....

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Posted: Dec 17, 2018 9:39 PM
 

Wow, I guess that response erases any doubt. Good call Spud!


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Posted: Dec 18, 2018 7:29 AM
 

LOL- USC, the team that lost...wait for it...yes, a whopping SEVEN GAMES. 7 freaking games, and you had to play your "A" game to pull it out???


And Pitts coach said the teams aren't even close.


Posted: Dec 17, 2018 10:12 PM
 

I'll let you pretend which one he thought was better. But pretend hard. You don't have long.


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#ByeWeek

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Posted: Dec 18, 2018 12:27 AM
 

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Posted: Dec 18, 2018 10:35 AM
 

Wow. I got a domer in my office and he still claims if it hadn't rained a couple of years ago, ND would have won. He is deLOUsional too.

The coot game was a rivalry game. The last TD by Etienne was a reminder. They are still two or three levels below us. Bentley talked. Pitt talked. FSU talked. Now we see ND doing nothing but talk. Come back and take your medicine when Clemson covers the spread easily and Wimbush is in the game in the 4th quarter.

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Posted: Dec 18, 2018 10:42 AM
 

No worries, The Obama curse will raise it’s ugly head again. You can’t give a baby killer an honorary degree and be an institution of god at the same time.

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Posted: Dec 18, 2018 10:57 AM
 

I do not understand why someone comes to another teams site and expects people to think their team will get beat. I am in the holiday spirit so here is what you want for Christmas. Clemson will struggle to stop Notre Dame's offense. Our D line has pretty much been crap all year, we will be lucky if one of them makes a living as a janitor for a team in the Nfl. Our offense is not very good we will not be able to out run you so we will need to line up and run the wishbone with hopes of keeping the game close. I do think we have a shot and the final score will be 14 to 12 CU. I hope you have a great Christmas and I look forward to us pulling an upset in this game.

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Posted: Dec 19, 2018 9:20 AM
 

Most Irish fans are pretty reasonable about this game. There are no delusions of an easy win. I think Clemson will probably win, but it won't surprise me if the Irish pull it out. It's difficult to compare common opponents as each team has a different mental makeup week to week given the previous weeks performance. One thing that is true, is teams get up for ND regardless of the teams record. It's their chance to make their mark.

Both defenses will be the best each team has seen this year. Clemson has more overall team speed, but ND isn't slow like the 2012 team. Whichever team can move the ball on the ground is going to have an advantage.


Don't think Gipper is one of yours, He reads a lot like


Posted: Dec 19, 2018 9:22 AM
 

Ole Ace Dilcock over at Cocky Talk.


"teams get up for ND" card is sort of a thing of the past.


Posted: Dec 19, 2018 9:41 AM
 

Trust me, Clemson being ranked in the top 4 for 4 years running...teams get up to play Clemson.

That being said...I also think it'll be a good game.

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They'll need the distributive property on the 29th


Posted: Dec 18, 2018 10:58 AM
 

to spread out the butt whoppin we're going to give their entire roster. hth


Notre Dame is good enough to beat us. We are good enough

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Posted: Dec 18, 2018 1:18 PM
 

to blow Notre Dame out.

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