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New Story: NFL scout says Clemson DL is "overrated." Them's fightin' words

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Posted: Apr 29, 2018 1:29 PM
 

 
NFL scout says Clemson DL is "overrated." Them's fightin' words

Let the hate, or jockeying for draft position, begin. Clemson enters the 2018 season with the best defensive line in college football. It’s not close if you ask me. I’ve seen a lot of football, I’ve watched a lot of games, and I can tell you without any doubt or hesitation that Clemson’s group is superior to anyone else in the nation. One NFL scout doesn't seem to agree. Full Story »



Re: New Story: NFL scout says Clemson DL is "overrated." Them's fightin' words

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Posted: Apr 29, 2018 1:34 PM
 

As a fan I appreciate the extra motivation that guys like that give our team. We have the best DL in CFB and it’s not even close. I’m glad I’m not an opposing QB.

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Re: New Story: NFL scout says Clemson DL is "overrated." Them's fightin' words

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Posted: Apr 29, 2018 1:38 PM
 

The NFL brings those same guys into the NFL to their teams, and on their team they use those same over rated college players to win Super Bowls with!!!

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Re: New Story: NFL scout says Clemson DL is "overrated." Them's fightin' words

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Posted: Apr 29, 2018 1:44 PM
 

ACC QB's better buckle that chin strap on extra tight in 2018.


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Posted: May 1, 2018 2:20 PM
 

the way FSU QB's have taken hits over the last couple years, Francois or Blackmon might get snapped in two.


Re: New Story: NFL scout says Clemson DL is "overrated." Them's fightin' words

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Posted: Apr 29, 2018 1:47 PM
 

It is with great pleasure that I refute the analysis of this self-anointed expert.

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Re: New Story: NFL scout says Clemson DL is "overrated." Them's fightin' words

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Posted: Apr 29, 2018 5:05 PM
 

Agreed. Reading twitter for fun is one thing. Making a living on twitter-that's another. It screams "Hey Hey! Look at me!! Over here, Over here! I'm really great! I promise" But alas, no one listens and then the 10 best guys go play ball while others go sulking home.

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Posted: Apr 29, 2018 9:11 PM
 

Who the #### is Mel kiper

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They should post that tweet all over the Reeves Complex

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Posted: Apr 29, 2018 1:53 PM
 

I want those guys with an edge during the off season workouts and playing all next season.

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I'm good enough, I'm smart enough, and doggone it, people like me.


Re: New Story: NFL scout says Clemson DL is "overrated." Them's fightin' words

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Posted: Apr 29, 2018 1:54 PM
 

Bentley just shat himself

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Re: New Story: NFL scout says Clemson DL is "overrated." Them's fightin' words

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Posted: Apr 29, 2018 1:55 PM
 

Just be trying to get his name in the paper.

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Re: New Story: NFL scout says Clemson DL is "overrated." Them's fightin' words

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Posted: Apr 29, 2018 4:37 PM
 

It's all about getting clicks and pageviews. Doesn't matter if your opinions are patently ridiculous if people are willing to read them.

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ACC QBs checking Twitter today:

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Posted: Apr 29, 2018 1:59 PM
 







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Re: ACC QBs checking Twitter today:


Posted: Apr 29, 2018 10:41 PM
 

https://gph.is/2aSb9kX

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I Dare That NFL Scout Or Any NFL Scout.....---

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Posted: Apr 29, 2018 2:02 PM
 

....to play quarterback with our D-line coming after them. No O-line or Trump built wall will stop our D-line.


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Re: New Story: NFL scout says Clemson DL is "overrated." Them's fightin' words

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Posted: Apr 29, 2018 2:12 PM
 

Yawn....


Re: New Story: NFL scout says Clemson DL is "overrated." Them's fightin' words

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Posted: Apr 29, 2018 2:27 PM
 

That's total BS. No NFL scouts are going around saying the Clemson DL is overrated. Never happened.

Twitter is one of the worst things to happen to mankind.


Re: New Story: NFL scout says Clemson DL is "overrated." Them's fightin' words

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Posted: Apr 30, 2018 12:43 AM
 

Don't leave out face book, they are at the top of the ladder of the worst things to happen to mankind!!!

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Re: New Story: NFL scout says Clemson DL is "overrated." Them's fightin' words

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Posted: Apr 29, 2018 2:53 PM
 

I knew it was coming sooner or later... I personally prefer the pundants trash talking us... Its all just locker room material... More people to prove wrong boys...

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He didn’t name any of those scouts lol

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Posted: Apr 29, 2018 3:18 PM
 

Brent has to be smiling at this gift ?? ole Dave Doeren has this look ?? lol

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We’ll make it 4 fingers and two thumbs over the U of s_c.???????
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We will win our 4th National Championship at 15-0 making it 3 Championships over the last 4 years!


Re: He didn’t name any of those scouts lol

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Posted: Apr 29, 2018 6:05 PM
 

Yep, the HC's in the ACC are asking them selves, now why did he have to go and do that for, that dumb SOB!!!

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Re: New Story: NFL scout says Clemson DL is "overrated." Them's fightin' words

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Posted: Apr 29, 2018 3:54 PM
 

We bring back the #4 Total Defense from 2017 intact except for 1 lb and 2 dbs.

That's some pretty convincing "paper"

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I hope every team on the 2018 schedule reads

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Posted: Apr 29, 2018 4:07 PM
 

and believes this.

GO TIGERS!!

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Re: New Story: NFL scout says Clemson DL is "overrated." Them's fightin' words

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Posted: Apr 29, 2018 4:54 PM
 

I have to save this one for later in the year so I can add it to the collection of the dumbest things ever said in history. I am sure that Mel Kiper and Todd Mcshay will add to the hypocrisy soon enough.

#ALLIN

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Re: New Story: NFL scout says Clemson DL is "overrated." Them's fightin' words

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Posted: Apr 29, 2018 5:08 PM
 

He’s an idiot.


Re: New Story: NFL scout says Clemson DL is "overrated." Them's fightin' words

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Posted: Apr 29, 2018 5:13 PM
 

As Twain said, the NFL scout has removed all doubts he's a fool. Maybe a IPTAY member slipped him a century to write his opinion. To top it off, he says this before the season starts after last season's team did extraordinarily well. Guess that's the only paying job he can keep.

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Be nice if we played well this year.

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Posted: Apr 29, 2018 5:33 PM
 

I love us. I root for us. I like our players. But laurels wilt when sat upon.

The D-Line we have all praised and loved has helped us win some glory in the past. But they do need to play dominating ball, destroying the line of scrimmage on every play of every game to be who we think they can be. I think the guys we love so much all got NFL round 2 or lower grades across the board. Bradley Chubb was the impressive D-lineman in the ACC last year, not our guys. It's fun to see Wilkins playing safety but I would much rather him get a nasty streak, defeat the opponent on the line of scrimmage every game and earn a first round NFL grade. He hasn't done that consistently. We all want to remember a terror on the line of scrimmage, not a really nice guy who can do a split after we won it all way back when. I'd rather Wilkins concentrate on his position than running out to celebrate TDs by the offense in the endzone. I love him but in 4 months he needs to play like the best D-Lineman in the country every game.

I hope Dexter Lawrence recovers from the toe injury that has limited his effectiveness and his durability for a year now. Coming back is hard to do. He came to Clemson with great credentials. Dex needs to play as many snaps as possible with a high motor in 2018 to grab first team All American honors and a top 5 draft position based on being an unstoppable force.

I could go on trying to illustrate that we have a ways to go to be who most of us think we can be.

On the other side of the ball, Wide Receiver U has more stars that TD catches by what we think can be a great group of receivers. I know what we think, but we must regain the sort of deep offensive threat we had 2 years ago. We did not have it last year and it was not all Kelly Bryant's fault. The guys we have must play better than the two great Clemson men who got drafted late by the NFL just this week. We all think we can and we say we can and we praise highly guys who have yet to produce at the level that is expected. There is no Nuk or Sammy wearing orange just yet. Somebody who wants to make us forget those guys just a little bit should do it in 2018. 50-50 balls gotta be 90-10. They were not last year.

I have seen nearly all the games we've played for a great many years. I know we have been special. But none of that will win what we hope to win in 2018. And a whole lot of teams are waiting to pounce on any and every weakness.

Go Tigers!!

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Re: Be nice if we played well this year.

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Posted: Apr 29, 2018 7:58 PM
 

If you know of a team with 4 better defensive linemen, name them. I don't get wrapped around one person or even 2. It's a team game. The errant writer makes a claim our '18 DL is overrated. I think his opinion is misguided, shortsighted, or likely biased as are most analysts. The point is our starting point with our front 4 this year IS better than anyone, imo. What we do with it this season time will tell, but I'll bet our DL and team is hungry. And smooth talking analysts with nothing but opinion eat crow.

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Context is key


Posted: Apr 29, 2018 11:13 PM
 

This is an NFL draft writer referring to the pro prospectus of each DL member individually. This is not condemning our DL which is clearly the best in the nation next year.

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Re: Context is key


Posted: Apr 30, 2018 12:50 AM
 

Read it until you actually get what is being said, and it doesn't sound anything like what you are saying... (Clemson DL is stacked on paper, but NFL scouts have already started warning people they've been overrated.)

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Posted: Apr 29, 2018 5:23 PM
 

Does anyone know if Paul Finebaum ever poses as an NFL scout and tweets under the name of Matt Miller?... Just curious...

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Re: New Story: NFL scout says Clemson DL is "overrated." Them's fightin' words

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Posted: Apr 29, 2018 5:54 PM
 

Scouts names should be posted. Sure hope they have to eat their words.


Da'Quan Bowers

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Posted: Apr 29, 2018 7:22 PM
 

We all hope the DL is everything it's built up to be. We've typically seen them dominate (AUB/SC/etc). We've seen them take some plays off and not dominate far lesser competition (PITT/SYR).

We were all certain from 2008-10 that Da'Quan Bowers was the best DL in America. Maybe the best ever. He was rated the #1 high school senior. He was mentioned at the same level as Reggie White and Bruce Smith. He was considered at the top of his class along with Andrew Luck, Patrick Peterson, Nick Fairley and Marcel Dareus. He was awarded the Bronco Nagurski Trophy and was named ACC Defensive POY. Then he was average at the NFL Combine and was selected #51. He went on to a very average NFL career and a season in the CFL. Still hard to decipher what happened ... nagging injuries and Daquan seemed to love music more than football. Nothing wrong with that. But there are no guarantees even the most talented can stay injury-free and maintain their drive through the college years. Like the rest of you, I hope this NFL scout is ignorant and very wrong in his assessment of the currently great D-line. But I do not take any players future for granted. Bowers was considered ahead of all our current guys. So I am looking forward to seeing them own it in the 2018 season by destroying all opponents. These guys came back for a reason. Showtime starts in 4 months.


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Stop bragging


Posted: Apr 29, 2018 7:37 PM
 

We couldn't even score a touch down against ALABAMA.


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Re: Stop bragging


Posted: Apr 29, 2018 9:04 PM
 

do do


Gamecock I suppose it the elite team.....

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Posted: Apr 29, 2018 7:56 PM
 

NOT! Well, they think that South Carolina is a better team and deserves NFL approval! Somebody has lost their minds! Clemson DL is the MOST ELITE front in the world! GO TIGERS!!!!


Re: New Story: NFL scout says Clemson DL is "overrated." Them's fightin' words

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Posted: Apr 29, 2018 9:01 PM
 

same guy who bet on oka,twice ,ohio state, ala. lost his rear.


Hahahahahahahah. This guy. What a turd.


Posted: Apr 29, 2018 9:07 PM
 

He starts in first person passive, then supports his argument with what “NFL scouts” are supposedly saying. And now he is saying people need to re-read his tweet. What a doooche.

Anyway, what the #### does he know?


greatest article EVAR


Posted: Apr 29, 2018 9:13 PM
 

Love being disrespected !!!!


Bring da pain


Bring da noise !!!!!!!

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Posted: Apr 29, 2018 9:23 PM
 

All you can say to that guy is ...WHAT? And thank you


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Congratulations, Mr. Hood


Posted: Apr 29, 2018 11:01 PM
 

This may be your most clicked and most shared article ever.

Also, the expert is wrong.

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Here's the kernel of truth in the comment:

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Posted: Apr 30, 2018 7:14 AM
 

Of course we have absolute studs. There's no doubt and they're NOT overrated. That said, BV's genius schemes may make all of our D look better collectively than they are individually. That's the small kernel of truth.

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Posted: Apr 30, 2018 7:25 AM
 

Does Jake Bentley post under the screen name "Matt Miller"? This sounds an awful lot like a Bentley talent analysis comment to me. If so, I'm sure he will get the punishment he deserves come November.

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Stupid...He must have never watched the show...


Posted: Apr 30, 2018 7:29 AM
 

The Power Rangers always win in the end.


Crump is a wizard.

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Posted: Apr 30, 2018 7:38 AM
 

He's turned David Hood into a troll.

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