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Dabo "I'm not trying to please the fans"

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Posted: Oct 8, 2017 7:37 PM
 

Might want to re-think that statement
You're the one who calls out the fans
asking & talking about "All-In"
With out the fans and their $$$$$
I'm sure with you having a MBA
you have heard this many times
The customer is always right
and the boss is never wrong
The fans you talk about not trying to please
are both the customer's and boss in so many ways
Might stop to think about a former Clemson HC who
also had the mind-set of not thinking about the fans
I understand what you were trying to say, don't
agree with the way you said it

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Posted: Oct 8, 2017 7:38 PM
 

Duly noted


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Posted: Oct 8, 2017 7:40 PM
 

You are calling out Dabo cause he calls out the "fans" for not showing up or staying, yet HE is the one that has to lead the team through all the distractions and get them ready to play every weekend. Confused much?

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Posted: Oct 8, 2017 7:53 PM
 

I have NO issues calling Dabo out
if and when I see or feel I should

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Dabo has no problem calling fans out when he

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Posted: Oct 8, 2017 8:20 PM
 

feels the need. Goes both ways.

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Posted: Oct 9, 2017 7:12 AM
 

Your are either a gamecock or dumb as dirt. Not much difference between the two

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Snowflake response

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Posted: Oct 8, 2017 7:39 PM
 

Dabo could call me a Gamecock to my face for all I care.

As long as he's winning football games (you know, what he's PAID to do), I'm happy with him and the $$$ will keep rolling in from fans who don't look to get offended

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Posted: Oct 8, 2017 7:43 PM
 

LOL

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just a guess

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Posted: Oct 8, 2017 7:40 PM
 

But I don't think Dabo reads TNet


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Posted: Oct 8, 2017 7:41 PM
 



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Posted: Oct 8, 2017 7:41 PM
 

I think Dabo pleases the fans by winning, he has built this program that No Clemson fan has ever seen. We have never been this, good.
GO TIGER'S!!!!!!!

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He has the right to think that way and say what he thinks

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Posted: Oct 8, 2017 7:44 PM
 

but he shouldn't then expect the fans to want to please him either.


Is this in Poem form?***

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Posted: Oct 8, 2017 7:46 PM
 



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Posted: Oct 8, 2017 9:58 PM
 

I think we know who started the Woo Hoo.......


The fans are not the boss, the AD and University President

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Posted: Oct 8, 2017 7:48 PM
 

are the "bosses".

Fan is short for "fanatic" and fans can often become fanatical and expect every pass to be caught, every tackle made, and are always ready to complain about every decision made by coaches.

Clemson fans are no different than other school's fans in this regard. If a coach is worrying about Internet website chatter, or sport talk radio hyperbole, then they are not doing their primary job, which is to prepare their team for each game during the season.

I think Dabo has more than proven he knows what he is doing.


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Posted: Oct 9, 2017 8:46 AM
 

TU to help.

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Re: Dabo "I'm not trying to please the fans"

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Posted: Oct 8, 2017 7:48 PM
 

I sincerely apologize, thank your for showing me the error of my ways. There is no way I could have taken our team to back to back NCG’s and won one without the boards on TigerNet.

Your loyal employee and vendor,

Coach Dabo Swinney

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I don't TD much, but reserved one just for your...

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Posted: Oct 8, 2017 7:50 PM
 

...ridiculous criticism of Dabo. He does what he does for our program, and the success of our team. So his statement is true. Fans can either get on board with the tremendous success we have had or jump off. Unreal that we are having any kind of conversation about this given what he has done.

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Posted: Oct 8, 2017 7:56 PM
 

Thank YOU
I was a Tiger before Dabo ever heard
about Clemson and if I'm still living
I will be a Tiger when he is gone

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Well that's great. I went to my first game in '74...

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Posted: Oct 8, 2017 8:15 PM
 

...sliding down the hill next to the WEZ on a cardboard box. Congrats on being a Tiger fan for so long. You should know better than most to appreciate what we have now and enjoy the ride.

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Posted: Oct 8, 2017 8:23 PM
 

Chill. This guy his a high pulse. The original post was 14 lines, sonnet? Then a couplet. Me thinks he is a few IPAs deep and baiting.


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Posted: Oct 8, 2017 8:11 PM
 



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Posted: Oct 9, 2017 8:48 AM
 

It cannot be unseen!

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Re: Dabo "I'm not trying to please the fans"

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Posted: Oct 8, 2017 7:50 PM
 

I don’t blame him for being sick and tired of the a$$inine questions and criticisms. One would think he had earned the benefit of the doubt by now.

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Worst sonnet ever.

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Posted: Oct 8, 2017 7:52 PM
 

Good try, though.


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Posted: Oct 8, 2017 7:54 PM
 

This is ridiculous. In two short years we have become a spoiled rotten fan base. If there is anyone involved with this program that deserves our utmost respect it is Dabo Swinney. We have yet to lose a game after winning the national championship and we are in a war of words with our head coach. Pathetic


You're right, we should get rid of him and get a real coach!

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Posted: Oct 8, 2017 7:55 PM
 

Some of the crap that gets posted on here is getting worse with every win. I wonder how some of you would've done in 1998 with a total of 3 wins. I wish some of these so called supporters would jump off of the bandwagon.


The comments have gotten beyond ridiculous...

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Posted: Oct 8, 2017 7:57 PM
 

...and into the realm of childish. We are 6-0, ranked 2nd in the nation, and yet some of these stooges find things to grip about 24/7.

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Posted: Oct 8, 2017 7:57 PM
 

Come on man. You can't play semantics with stuff like this. Dabo is right in what he said & doesn't need to worry about how certain fans take it. He's trying to win football games & is doing just that. He doesn't have to worry about if fans like "how" the team is winning.


Dabo's job is to win football games while representing the

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Posted: Oct 8, 2017 7:59 PM
 

university in keeping and reflecting it's values and traditions. He's doing a stellar job at both, and the fans absolutely adore him.

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Posted: Oct 8, 2017 8:04 PM
 

Never said anything about the Job he is doing
He is the one that has called the Fans out many
times
Even if he thinks the fans do not have anything
to do with how our Tigers are playing
How many $$$$$$$ have the fans put into Football
over the last 9 years
Just saying I think he could have used another way
to address the fans
No he's not man enough to offend me with his words
or actions

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I see nothing wrong whatsoever with what he said or how he

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Posted: Oct 8, 2017 8:37 PM
 

said it. As I said, the vast majority of fans love Dabo and I suspect very few took any exception to his comments.

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^^^ This kind of crap sends a guy like Dabo to Alabama ! ^^^

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Posted: Oct 8, 2017 8:00 PM
 

Give us a break with the inflammatory comments !

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Re: ^^^ This kind of crap sends a guy like Dabo to Alabama ! ^^^

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Posted: Oct 8, 2017 8:07 PM
 

?
what did I say that was not the truth
Dabo said it I did not
and when I see him I'm going to tell him
I did not agree with the way he said it

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Wolf in sheep skin in your avatar...

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Posted: Oct 8, 2017 8:13 PM
 

That is kind of interesting. Apparently you were doing so well, til now.


Re: ^^^ This kind of crap sends a guy like Dabo to Alabama ! ^^^

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Posted: Oct 8, 2017 8:20 PM
 

You're certainly entitled to your opinion, but you said yourself that you understood what Dabo was trying to say. Are you truly so petty as to take such offense to a minor nuance, take to the boards, ask to confront our head coach over it "the next time you see him." Do I have that right?? Please. Get a hold of yourself.

In my view Dabo's comments reflect the distinction between a democracy and a republic. We made Dabo our head coach empowering him to make the correct decisions regarding the program in every facet. You seem inclined to believe that the masses are entitled to their say or else?? This isn't mob rules. We're not going to pick the quarterback based on fan ballot for example.

I'm guessing you were one of the "up the middle, up the middle, pass, punt" chanters I had to tolerate when I was in school.

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Posted: Oct 8, 2017 9:35 PM
 

I was in the stands then too.

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Well be sure and tell him when you see him...


Posted: Oct 8, 2017 8:26 PM
 

...I know that will work out just great. Wow.

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What was the context of the question from the reporter?

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Posted: Oct 8, 2017 8:13 PM
 

Go Tigers AND Tiger Nation(al Champs!)!

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He should have said: "I'm not trying to

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Posted: Oct 8, 2017 8:16 PM
 

Please the nutty fans who care about how much we win by. I'll please 95% by just winning."

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Posted: Oct 8, 2017 8:16 PM
 

Can you just imagine being Dabo. You take over a program that hadn't won a NC for nearly 30 years, an ACC championship for 20, or even had a 10 win season for 20 years. You've now won 10 games or more in a row for 6 years in a row, 3 ACC championships while playing for a total of 4, won a NC and played for a 2nd, and you're 6-0 this season, ranked #2, and have gone 34-2 over the last 2 and a half seasons. Yet, you have fans complaining because you're not beating teams by enough points, even while half your wins for the season are against top 15 teams. It would be hard to not start hating some of the fans.


Well when you put it that way....ouch.

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Posted: Oct 8, 2017 8:24 PM
 

Maybe we should trust him.

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Posted: Oct 8, 2017 8:17 PM
 

If he keeps winning, and winning the right way, he'll please the vast majority of fans. The select few, ex. Freedom From Religion, can continue to complain but they'll mostly fall on deaf ears.


He wasn't talking Tnet obviously.

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Posted: Oct 8, 2017 8:21 PM
 

I am sure he comes here for advice all the time and just reads and doesn't post. That's part of the reason why the team always gets better as the season goes on. One day he will come with his first post and somebody will call him a coot.

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And yet, he is doing it quite well

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Posted: Oct 8, 2017 8:22 PM
 

Don't you think?

Think about it.

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Posted: Oct 8, 2017 8:31 PM
 

He was right. It's his program.


Dabo considers the development of his players both on and

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Posted: Oct 8, 2017 8:31 PM
 

off the field as his number one priority. That's the way it should be. He answers to his superiors at the university, not the fans. We contribute to IPTAY and buy tickets in order to have the privilege of watching the team he puts on the field.

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Posted: Oct 8, 2017 8:32 PM
 

No dumbarse he didn’t, I didn’t learn that in my MBA either because the customer isn’t always right. But leave it to an ignorant a$$hat to say some ridiculous saying that’s factually incorrect to criticize someone that’s been a thousand times more successful than them.




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Posted: Oct 8, 2017 8:32 PM
 

I have an MBA am too and the customer is often wrong if not usually.

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I don't TD anyone with more than 1000 pts and a 100% pulse

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Posted: Oct 8, 2017 8:44 PM
 

That said we can gripe and biaaaatch and whine and moan, but at the end of the day we don't even have a clue what this mans strategy is, we can pretend to but we don't. How do I know? Because we don't know anything about winning, how we became a winning team, how these players got so good or why we do much of anything. All we see are wins. I trust Dabo until he has a losing season. Then we can ask questions.


It's a football message board with morons

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Posted: Oct 8, 2017 8:47 PM
 

and old fat guys who think they know more than the coach. The customer is almost always wrong


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Posted: Oct 8, 2017 9:24 PM
 

Remember this you idiot when he leaves because of horrible fans like yourself. Then whennwebar 3-9 don't complain because people like you get your snowflake panties in a wad with winning but not winning the way you want. Your a dumb b%$#h. I would love to bash your face! Pansie


I know what you mean, but read no malice in Dabo's comments.

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Posted: Oct 8, 2017 9:29 PM
 

He could have perhaps chosen his words better or just not said anything. He does this sometimes (last year's MLK comments) but he is the best thing that has happened to Clemson since, well since forever.

He gets the benefit of a doubt.

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Posted: Oct 8, 2017 10:21 PM
 

I think the question is BS and dabo should have seen it through it. Most understand what he's doing. We are the only team in the country that has had opportunity to play 2 and 3 QBs a game. The amount of players who see playing time is a huge recruiting message. For some reason our coach is responding like a Saban would. He's on a mission. Go Dabo and tigers


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Posted: Oct 8, 2017 10:50 PM
 

If you knew anything about what an MBA teaches you’d know that the phrase “the customer is always right and the boss is never wrong” is never said. It’s wrong and terrible advice for reasons you’d know if you had an MBA.


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Posted: Oct 8, 2017 11:36 PM
 

Tough. We are pleased all the same. Stick that in your pipe and smoke it!


It's just coachspeak


Posted: Oct 8, 2017 11:49 PM
 

He knows the offense is underperforming and he has to get them in shape or we're not going to win out. He just has to say the things the people want to hear so he can't be pinned down for anything specific in a future presser.

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Posted: Oct 8, 2017 11:52 PM
 

Since you love offering unsolicited advice, let me also give you some...it’s better to shut your mouth and let everyone assume you’re an arrogant fool than to open your mouth and remove all doubt.

You, sir, should talk rarely. Do us all a favor and delete your account.


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Posted: Oct 9, 2017 12:42 AM
 

Not sure if the OP is a professional business man, but I don't know how many times in my 40+ years on the job that I heard "I'm not here to make friends. I'm here to fix your problems". IMHO - this is similar to Dabo saying what he said. He is here to COACH - and WIN - which he is doing very well. When I hired people to fix my company's problems, I wanted them fixed, even if it hurt some feelings.

For me - I am in Dabo's camp on this. He is not here to try to please the fans. Geez. Can we get some cheese to go with the whine?


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Posted: Oct 9, 2017 5:08 AM
 

Oh my.Nothing to see here. Moving on to more important things like why Nuk says Daniel instead of Clemson. The more we win the worse this site gets.

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Posted: Oct 9, 2017 6:32 AM
 

To make sspassport (coot) happy.

His job is to coach the team and win games, not make you happy snowflake. Who the #### are you comparing him to? Dabo has a national championship, Are you really threatening to run him out of Clemson because your wittle feelings are hurt?

Go back to Columbia coot.


Silly post!..We are WINNING, so the customer is happy.


Posted: Oct 9, 2017 8:36 AM
 

I worked for a State Agency that was a semi-service type section. Oftentimes our customers would lose something or screw it up themselves and blame it on my guys. They went on, what was called the "known offenders" list in my office(one DMV near the coast was probably the worst). During a meeting with big bosses, they called and I was very short with them , and one of the bosses took me to task with the old, "The customer is always right", nonsense. Already pissed off(as usual, more work for my guys, no more pay for it), I told him, "The customer here is always right unless we know the customer is full of sh-t". He laughed(fortunately). It became our second motto.


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Posted: Oct 9, 2017 8:37 AM
 



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Posted: Oct 9, 2017 8:47 AM
 

Some people just need something to ##### about...

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