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BKB Update: Former Valparaiso forward will transfer to Clemson

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Posted: May 23, 2016 2:05 PM
 

 
Former Valparaiso forward will transfer to Clemson

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Re: BKB Update: Former Valparaiso forward will transfer to Clemson

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Posted: May 23, 2016 2:09 PM
 

That is great! Congratulations David, welcome to Clemson.


Do other schools seek transfers as hard as we do?***

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Posted: May 23, 2016 2:23 PM
 




Re: Do other schools seek transfers as hard as we do?***

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Posted: May 23, 2016 2:32 PM
 

Not sure, but it is much more common for kids to transfer these days and is trending upward. I think most teams out of the top 30 probably seek transfers.


We'll have 5 - 7 on the team next year. 6-8 if you count


Posted: May 23, 2016 2:37 PM
 

Legend Robertin from Juco.

Seems to be our MO.

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Re: Do other schools seek transfers as hard as we do?***

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Posted: May 23, 2016 2:38 PM
 

Actually we already had one open, regardless of what Blossomgame decides.

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Re: Do other schools seek transfers as hard as we do?***

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Posted: May 23, 2016 3:32 PM
 

Maybe that will have to be our best chance at building a good team to prove that Clemson is getting serious about having a serious BB program. Bc big time HS talent right now with us not being known as a serious BB program, they won't give us a second look, and surely not a first look. If we have to get help building a program through transfers, so be it. Take the path of the least resistance!!! If Brad can build a good team from the best he can get from HS, then make up or fill in from transfers, go for it. When you are winning, it don't matter how you got it going as long as it was within the rules!!!

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Yes. It's a much bigger part of "recruiting" in bball than

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Posted: May 23, 2016 4:47 PM
 

it is in football. Not just a Clemson phenomenon. I do wonder why it's so prevalent for kids to leave a school so quickly these days.

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Which college teams have 6 or more transfers on the roster


Posted: May 23, 2016 4:53 PM
 

like us?

With one and possibly two more schollies to give that number could go up to 8.

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So what? The point is getting the best collection of talent possible.

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Posted: May 23, 2016 9:15 PM
 

As long as we do it legally, and steadily increase our talent level, I'm all for it.

When you look at the talent on our current team from top to bottom, it is one of the most talented teams we have had. If JB returns, this team has the potential to be our best team since the Sweet Sixteen team in 96-97.

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Re: Yes. It's a much bigger part of "recruiting" in bball than

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Posted: May 24, 2016 12:54 AM
 

It's bc some coaches and their school are recruiting a lot of premium talent. Those type of kids want more playing time to help them chase their dream of playing NBA ball.

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Over 700 basketball players transferred last year to other


Posted: May 24, 2016 7:45 AM
 

schools. I'm sure most are due to playing time. Glad to get anybody that can help us win, transfers or high school.

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Welcome! Hope this timing doesn't mean

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Posted: May 23, 2016 2:28 PM
 

There is a newly confirmed open scholarship that wasn't certain before today. Know what I'm sayin?


Nope. We had two available schollies. If JB leaves we'll

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Posted: May 23, 2016 2:34 PM
 

have two more available for transfers.

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This lack of a sense of urgency in recruiting says DRad is

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Posted: May 23, 2016 3:00 PM
 

putting no pressure on the coaching staff for next year, just as we saw this past year and the year before.

With a brand new facility, is our recruiting improving?

I would say no, but it would be hard to argue anything more than tiny baby steps at best.

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With 700+ transfers a year, they are recruiting

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Posted: May 23, 2016 3:33 PM
 

By HS star ratings: Thomas was a 5, Mitchell a 4. Holmes and Reed certainly outperformed their star ratings from high school at mid majors, Robertin was a highly recruited 3 star. Not sure about this guy, but yes, recruiting has improved, just not in a conventional way. But when have we ever been a consistent factor in HS recruiting? Ever??? The transfer route is a good route for us, especially guys we get for 2-3 years


Looks like Holmes was a 2 star, Skara and Reed unranked.


Posted: May 23, 2016 4:20 PM
 

Robertin was a 4 star with ESPN, which is surprising given his performance last year, and unranked elsewhere. Thomas was a consensus 4 star. Seems incremental on paper at best.

But, it does delay the improvement of your team and limits your ability to respond to injuries and early departures as each player has to sit out a year.

It's no secret we need more and better talent. The continued focus on transfers who will have to sit out again this year, even with the new facilities, is an indication that our coaching staff doesn't feel pressure to get it done next year and hasn't been able to capitalize on the new facilities.

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What are they supposed to be capitalizing on? Drawings?

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Posted: May 23, 2016 5:00 PM
 

Renderings?


Pictures created by elementary school students done in


Posted: May 23, 2016 5:05 PM
 

crayon.

Some people aren't salesmen.

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It's an indication they are adding talent any way

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Posted: May 23, 2016 8:46 PM
 

they can. Not sure what you're expecting in regards to recruiting high schoolers. We've never been a major player with HS elite recruits. Almost all of our greatest players were HS players who were finds, not top 100. Other than Tree, Sharone Wright and Skip Wise, all were finds. Nance, Grant, Campbell, Davis, Buckner, Booker, you name them. When we have landed big time recruits they've basically flopped; Bynum, Jones, Jennings. Cliff Ellis best teams were loaded with transfers. It isn't ideal, but with our history and who we recruit against, what exactly are you wanting?


Re: This lack of a sense of urgency in recruiting says DRad is


Posted: May 23, 2016 4:06 PM
 

> putting no pressure on the coaching staff for next
> year, just as we saw this past year and the year
> before.
>
> With a brand new facility, is our recruiting
> improving?
>
> I would say no, but it would be hard to argue
> anything more than tiny baby steps at best.

So you think recruiting will improve before the building is complete?


We are moving into the new facility in September.


Posted: May 23, 2016 4:22 PM
 

Any kid who you recruited this year would be practicing and playing in the new facility. Should be an easy sell, if facilities are indeed the problem.

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Re: BKB Update: Former Valparaiso forward will transfer to Clemson

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Posted: May 23, 2016 3:05 PM
 

This is great news!


Re: BKB Update: Former Valparaiso forward will transfer to Clemson

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Posted: May 23, 2016 3:40 PM
 

Hopefully he has some Croatian friends that are good players that he can recruit to Clemson.

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Re: BKB Update: Former Valparaiso forward will transfer to Clemson


Posted: May 23, 2016 3:44 PM
 

yep, got tot be a few more -ics out there somewhere.

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Re: BKB Update: Former Valparaiso forward will transfer to Clemson

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Posted: May 23, 2016 3:41 PM
 

Are we becoming transfer U?

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Ive always loved European projects. They are so fun to put


Posted: May 23, 2016 3:47 PM
 

together and see if they work!


was on a deep team that could have caused...

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Posted: May 23, 2016 4:02 PM
 

Damage in NCAAT. Kept on getting better. Had best game in semi win over BYU with 15 pts and game winner. Here were season highlights:

https://youtu.be/r5w85vdClyk


Re: BKB Update: Former Valparaiso forward will transfer to Clemson


Posted: May 23, 2016 7:20 PM
 

Whatever it takes to get us quality players.

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On paper the group of transfers BB has collected is ...

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Posted: May 23, 2016 4:06 PM
 

On paper the group that BB has collected is about as good as any overall group we've ever brought in (legally) ... most of these guys are the caliber of players that we traditionally haven't been able to sign out of high school.

I applaud his efforts. I look forward to seeing if he can turn this diverse array of guys who were all highly regarded out of high school into a solid Clemson "team" on the court.

Honestly, at this particular juncture a "fast track" strategy of bringing in transfers is about the only option BB has to jump start the program as we move to the new facility.

I hope it works!

Go Tigers!!!

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this strategy certainly worked for Larranga at Miami....


Posted: May 23, 2016 6:19 PM
 

really hard to argue for the logical ones among us.


If Coach B can add coaching to win instead of coaching not


Posted: May 23, 2016 10:15 PM
 

to lose we could be pretty dang good next season even with JB gone. Would love to see it to believe it.

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Sad that a coach going into his 7th year has to bring in

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Posted: May 23, 2016 11:00 PM
 

a bunch of transfers to "jump start" his program.


Wake up! Transfers are now a significant part of the college basketball landscape.

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Posted: May 23, 2016 11:54 PM
 

If BB finds that transfers are better than high school players to get the guys he wants, then I'm all for it.

Since I'm sure you didn't know, we have beaten out some strong programs for these transfers over the last few years. It's not like they are rejects.

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Re: Wake up! Transfers are now a significant part of the college basketball landscape.


Posted: May 24, 2016 7:06 AM
 

hey judge is your head bleeding yet.

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Sure is a lot of transfers....?***


Posted: May 23, 2016 4:25 PM
 



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It is the way things go in college basketball these days.


Posted: May 23, 2016 9:16 PM
 

Certainly not unique to Clemson.

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Re: BKB Update: Former Valparaiso forward will transfer to Clemson

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Posted: May 23, 2016 6:01 PM
 

Exciting. Averages 5 points per game.

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Re: BKB Update: Former Valparaiso forward will transfer to Clemson


Posted: May 24, 2016 7:25 AM
 

another ignorant post

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exactly how is recruiting a transfer who sits out next year

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Posted: May 23, 2016 6:17 PM
 

any different than getting a HS kid to sign after his junior year?

Isn't the HS kid going to play next year as a senior in HS.

Don't both methods have the same one-year delay in effect on the program?

Literally the only difference is how many years they will be under scholarship with us.

But a transfer who has 2 years left should have matured 2 years already and should make instant impact on the team.

Most of our good players recruited out of HS will make some contributions as sophomores but won't be leaders per se on the team.

The big jump for HS kids seems to come in the Junior year - one year we get whether they're recruited out of HS or as transfers.

So there seems little if any difference in recruiting transfers from HS kids.

Of course, I'm not Chicken Little running around with my head cut off about Brad Brownell either.....


Re: BKB Update: Former Valparaiso forward will transfer to Clemson

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Posted: May 23, 2016 6:48 PM
 

Our BBall does seem to take small steps. I thought the new facility would help more. May be early yet. I think this guy can help! Hope so.

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Re: BKB Update: Former Valparaiso forward will transfer to Clemson

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Posted: May 23, 2016 8:26 PM
 

Glad to have this man on board for us. We seem to need some help. Maybe he can help provide the missing ingredient we've been needing.

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Re: BKB Update: Former Valparaiso forward will transfer to Clemson

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Posted: May 23, 2016 10:19 PM
 

Who cares about all the rhetoric....... stay within the rules and, just win, baby. Tiger basketball needs all the assistance they can get after so many years of being ignored.

There is no reason we can't have a great basketball program.

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Re: BKB Update: Former Valparaiso forward will transfer to Clemson

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Posted: May 24, 2016 7:25 AM
 

Really is pathetic that some people would rather attack this kid and our coach than to welcome him to Clemson.

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