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Since we are discussing ridiculous things today...

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Posted: Oct 15, 2019 11:21 PM
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I’d like to talk about how stupid the flag wavers in the end zone look wearing orange overalls.

It’s a poor look in 2019. We can do better.

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Re: Since we are discussing ridiculous things today...

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Posted: Oct 15, 2019 11:33 PM
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It’s a diversion, designed to draw attention away from our opponents that are being violated in the most callous fashion, out on the field.

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Posted: Oct 16, 2019 6:59 AM
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Yes?

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Posted: Oct 15, 2019 11:33 PM
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Cutoff T-shirts and

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Posted: Oct 16, 2019 7:54 AM
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### less chaps?

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Posted: Oct 16, 2019 4:24 PM
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You haven't because those are just pants.

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Posted: Oct 16, 2019 8:02 AM
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The REAL Judge Keller

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Posted: Oct 16, 2019 8:14 AM
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sold orange overalls.

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she's actually related***


Posted: Dec 11, 2019 1:24 PM
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Re: The REAL Judge Keller


Posted: Dec 11, 2019 1:51 PM
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I buy all my orange overalls from Judge Keller.


I disagree

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Posted: Oct 16, 2019 8:12 AM
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It's a nod to Clemson's Agricultural roots and there isn't anything wrong with working in the soil.


Why do we have to honor our agricultural roots at a football


Posted: Oct 16, 2019 12:57 PM
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game?

But since you want to, why stop at overalls? Why not, instead of waving flags, we have people wave rakes? Instead of serving usual concessions, do you want to serve fresh cow's milk?

I'm not saying that there is anything wrong with working in the soil, but for a prominent academic institution that showcases its football program to the nation every week, I don't think orange overalls are a good look.

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Re: Why do we have to honor our agricultural roots at a football

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Posted: Oct 16, 2019 4:21 PM
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Lewisville waved ho(e)s for football and basketball


Re: Why do we have to honor our agricultural roots at a football

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Posted: Oct 16, 2019 4:37 PM
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Let's add to that. Would you also say "Why do we have to honor our military roots at a football game"?

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Are you equating military service for one's country


Posted: Oct 16, 2019 7:58 PM
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with being a farmer?

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You think farmers are beneath you.

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Posted: Oct 16, 2019 8:51 PM
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I get it.
But that's not what I asked.

I was pointing out the Clemson 'roots' you mentioned.

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LOL.


Posted: Oct 17, 2019 10:43 AM
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I don't have a problem with farmers. I just don't think certain things represent our school well in 2019 on national television.

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What other "certain things" would you lump farmers in with?

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Posted: Oct 17, 2019 10:46 AM
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Also still waiting on your answer to the military roots question.

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If pigs are so smart, why do 66% of them use weak and inferior materials during construction?


I apologize for offending you. Are you wearing overalls


Posted: Oct 17, 2019 10:48 AM
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right now?

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No. Are you wearing an ascot?

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Posted: Oct 17, 2019 10:52 AM
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Still waiting on your answers to the original questions BTW.

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If pigs are so smart, why do 66% of them use weak and inferior materials during construction?


I'm still waiting on you to answer my question as well.


Posted: Oct 17, 2019 11:59 AM
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Are you equating farming with military service?

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You asked that question in order to avoid my question.

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Posted: Oct 17, 2019 12:03 PM
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Still waiting.

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If pigs are so smart, why do 66% of them use weak and inferior materials during construction?


I'm not avoiding your question at all. I have lots of ideas.


Posted: Oct 17, 2019 12:18 PM
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Here you go:

https://www.tigernet.com/forum/message/I-dont-think-orange-overalls-honor-our-history-worth-a-crap-26157608

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Maybe you should pick a new favorite school.

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Posted: Oct 17, 2019 12:24 PM
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This is literally in the very first two paragraphs...

Clemson was founded in 1889 through a bequest from Thomas Green Clemson, a Philadelphia-born, European-educated engineer, musician and artist who married John C. Calhoun’s daughter, Anna Maria, and eventually settled at her family plantation in South Carolina. A longtime advocate for an agricultural college in the Upstate, Clemson left his home and fortune to the state of South Carolina to create the institution that bears his name.

In November 1889, Gov. John Peter Richardson signed a bill accepting Clemson’s gift, which established the Clemson Agricultural College and made its trustees custodians of Morrill Act and Hatch Act funds, federally provided for agricultural education and research purposes by federal legislative acts.


https://www.clemson.edu/about/history/

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Re: Maybe you should pick a new favorite school.

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Posted: Oct 17, 2019 1:03 PM
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.

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Make it idjit proof and someone will make a better idjit.


You still didn’t answer my question.


Posted: Oct 17, 2019 9:24 PM
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Are you equating farming with serving one’s country in the military?

Also, your response above is nonsensical. I have no problem with Clemson’s agricultural past. I just think we should honor it in a better way than the currently ambiguous and poor look of having flag wavers wear orange overalls.

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Do you grow your own kale?

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Posted: Oct 18, 2019 9:06 AM
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.

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If pigs are so smart, why do 66% of them use weak and inferior materials during construction?


Answer my question.


Posted: Oct 18, 2019 11:25 AM
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Are you equating farming with serving one’s country in the military?

I'm still waiting.

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One thing is for sure,

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Posted: Oct 18, 2019 12:20 PM
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I would never talk about how stupid either one looks.

But here we are.

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Just as I thought.


Posted: Oct 18, 2019 1:37 PM
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Still didn't answer my question.

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Your question has nothing to do with my questions.

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Posted: Oct 18, 2019 1:51 PM
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The ones you didn't answer BTW.

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If pigs are so smart, why do 66% of them use weak and inferior materials during construction?


I've clearly answered your questions multiple times.


Posted: Oct 18, 2019 1:53 PM
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You still haven't answered my question.

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I'll try one more time.

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Posted: Oct 18, 2019 2:05 PM
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You can even scroll waaaay back up to the beginning of this song & dance if you like.

But here it is again.

Would you also say "Why do we have to honor our military roots at a football game"?

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If pigs are so smart, why do 66% of them use weak and inferior materials during construction?


you enjoy being annoying. .. just like a woman.

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Posted: Dec 11, 2019 1:27 PM
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Get back in the kitchen lady lol


Re: Answer my question.

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Posted: Dec 12, 2019 10:02 AM
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I'll answer the question. In this case farming and the military are similar arguments. Both are a part of our history, and there is nothing wrong with both of them being represented at our ballgames.

There is a reason that such a small percentage of our population has the task of feeding better than 300 million people in this country, ag science. Anyone that believes the dumb farmer fallacy shows their ignorance and I could care less what they think.

Why do you care what someone thinks who could be convinced that peanuts grow on trees?


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Posted: Dec 12, 2019 10:23 AM
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bump

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Posted: Oct 17, 2019 8:53 PM
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=joNzRzZhR2Y

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I think our basketball program has not represented us well on national TV

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Posted: Dec 11, 2019 1:25 PM
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But you seem to think that's okay.


Dude

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Posted: Oct 17, 2019 6:15 AM
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This thread is a bad look for YOU

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Okay


Posted: Oct 17, 2019 10:43 AM
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Thanks for weighing in with constructive thoughts and opinions.

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Re: Okay

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Posted: Oct 17, 2019 8:58 PM
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My opinion is you are a poor judge.....


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Posted: Oct 17, 2019 9:24 PM
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Re: Why do we have to honor our agricultural roots at a football

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Posted: Dec 11, 2019 1:49 PM
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How about camo overalls?
The art of compromise is when all parties and happy and sad at the same time.


Re: Why do we have to honor our agricultural roots at a football

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Posted: Oct 16, 2019 8:41 PM
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Are you speaking for the entire fan base or just yourself? Just curious......cause..... I could give a $#i+ what anyone thinks. Why is it not a good look? 21st century.....is that it? Makes us look like a bunch of hillbillies? Please enlighten me.


Yes, I think it looks silly and dated.


Posted: Oct 17, 2019 10:45 AM
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And I guarantee that I'm not the only one. I doubt there are many people outside of a segment of our fan base thinks it's endearing.

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Re: Why do we have to honor our agricultural roots at a football

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Posted: Oct 18, 2019 12:50 PM
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Yeah! And why are they wearing t-shirts? A prominent academic institution should be wearing a full suit and tie and nothing less!

GO TIGERS


Well, since you want to honor our history


Posted: Oct 18, 2019 1:39 PM
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why aren't you pushing for everyone to dress up to games? That is our history after all.

And based on the reactions here, history can't be altered, questioned, or disagreed with.

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Re: Why do we have to honor our agricultural roots at a football


Posted: Dec 11, 2019 8:06 PM
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What do you suggest ?


Re: Why do we have to honor our agricultural roots at a football


Posted: Dec 11, 2019 8:41 PM
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That would be AWESOME! Instead of busses, have the players ride to the hill on flatbeds pulled by tractors! The message is "Hell yeah, we're farmers, but we are also a #### great school and our football team is gonna kick your ass!" Throw in a few slide rules to honor the "Mechanical" in the old 'A and M."


Keeping Score here...


Posted: Oct 16, 2019 8:17 AM
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If my calculations are correct, people aren't allowed to wear orange overalls or jerseys. Are there other gameday clothing articles that are taboo? What else, other than the 'woohoo' are other people doing that is ruining your gameday experience as you sit at home watching the game from your recliner? Asking for myself as I sit here in my orange overalls.

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Orange overalls are fine. Adult men wearing jerseys

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Posted: Oct 16, 2019 8:22 AM
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are not fine. Hth

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Posted: Oct 16, 2019 12:58 PM
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Re: Orange overalls are fine. Adult men wearing jerseys

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Posted: Dec 11, 2019 1:27 PM
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Hear, hear!

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People can wear whatever they like.

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Posted: Oct 16, 2019 12:58 PM
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I just don't think orange overalls portray our fine university and football program in a very positive light. It's 2019, not 1896.

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Re: People can wear whatever they like.

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Posted: Dec 11, 2019 1:30 PM
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But we do still have farmers.

Whether they actually wear overalls, I have no idea. I grew up in the city.

Honest question: do we want to hide the fact that we're a land-grant university?

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Posted: Dec 11, 2019 8:54 PM
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the message you put out there.

I have offered suggestions in another post about how I feel we can better honor our agricultural heritage at football games.

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Re: People can wear whatever they like.

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Posted: Dec 11, 2019 8:08 PM
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Jesus christ ! Are we really discussing fashion on TNet ??


Clearly,

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Posted: Oct 16, 2019 8:25 AM
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They should switch to jerseys and jorts. Cargo jorts.


Re: Clearly,


Posted: Oct 16, 2019 8:26 AM
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I completely agree. They should alao be wearing Tevas.

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Maybe that shoud be camo cargo jorts


Posted: Oct 16, 2019 12:59 PM
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to honor our military heritage and all.

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It's Tradition

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Posted: Oct 16, 2019 8:31 AM
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Orange Overalls are a tradition for Central Spirit flag handlers that dates back many years. It's a nod to the agricultural tradition of the school. Is honoring ag popular or trendy? No. But I for one appreciate the fact that someone (outside of the Class of '55 shop) honors the ag tradition of Clemson. And that's coming from a Biochem major and physician. Yes, I'm biased as I ran/waved the 'N' from 1999-2001 and still own my orange overalls (that no longer fit). And yes, the irony of your post is that Judge Keller played a significant role in this particular tradition. So if you were going for ironic sarcasm, then well played. If you truly dislike the tradition, then I'll just agree to disagree.

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Not sarcasm. I truly don't like the tradition.


Posted: Oct 16, 2019 1:00 PM
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I understand that some people think it's a great tradition, but I would guess that most people would be okay seeing that tradition go away.

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If the responses in this thread are any indication, then

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Posted: Oct 17, 2019 1:10 PM
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no, most people would not be okay with seeing that tradition go away.

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Posted: Oct 17, 2019 9:26 PM
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then we are in huge trouble.

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Exhibit A...

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Posted: Oct 17, 2019 9:46 PM
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https://www.tigernet.com/forum/message/Since-we-are-discussing-ridiculous-things-today-26150715

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Exhibit B


Posted: Dec 11, 2019 8:27 PM
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and if you want to click.....



https://www.tigernet.com/forum/message/Well-since-you-say-that-ALL-of-TNet-said-so-26492900#26492900

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Re: Since we are discussing ridiculous things today...

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Posted: Oct 16, 2019 9:43 AM
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Orange Overalls themselves are a tradition that dates back decades at Clemson from the agricultural roots of the school. From Judge Keller's actually. I know that because that is the reason I got Central Spirit to adopt them for the people running the flags during the game when I was Football/Basketball Director in 2000-2001.

Prior to that, Central Spirit members were down there in whatever they were wearing for the game and we looked a bit scraggly. We needed some type of uniform that wasn't in use elsewhere (especially since we were running across the field to start the game) and when it comes to Central Spirit, we're all about honoring traditions. I did some research and made it a requirement.

Proper Orange Overalls are white from Judge Keller's and they'll take them home and dye them the correct Orange for you. I know there are some copycat options that have come around since, but that's where you get "real" Clemson Orange Overalls.

I'm pretty proud that it stuck and it's now a tradition going into its 20th year.

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Posted: Oct 16, 2019 1:02 PM
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Re: Since we are discussing ridiculous things today...


Posted: Oct 16, 2019 1:00 PM
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Are the balloons a protest?


Re: Since we are discussing ridiculous things today...


Posted: Oct 16, 2019 1:03 PM
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Orange Overalls were big on game day back in 1976 and 1977.


So you're saying I can be thankful that fewer people


Posted: Oct 16, 2019 4:11 PM
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today wear overalls to games compared to years past?

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Re: Since we are discussing ridiculous things today...

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Posted: Oct 16, 2019 4:24 PM
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Is it basketball season already? Da' Judge is getting restless.


Re: Since we are discussing ridiculous things today...

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Posted: Oct 16, 2019 4:24 PM
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You wanna stary a riot ? Because this is how you start a riot with true Clemsoners ;)

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Not looking for a riot. Just showing some tough love.


Posted: Oct 16, 2019 8:04 PM
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The average viewer doesn't think the orange overalls are endearing or cool. They think they look ridiculous.

Most people don't know or care that agriculture was part of Clemson's founding. Honestly, agriculture's importance at Clemson has dwindled greatly over the past few decades.

I don't think our agricultural roots are anything to be ashamed of, I just don't understand why it is something some people think should be flaunted during what is prime marketing time for Clemson University and Clemson football every Saturday.

We also have strong roots in engineering and math, both of which are far more prominent at Clemson today than agriculture. But I don't see us dressing like engineers or mathematicians at football games.

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Re: Not looking for a riot. Just showing some tough love.

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Posted: Oct 17, 2019 11:45 PM
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So orange pocket protectors then?


That would honor our engineering and math history.


Posted: Oct 18, 2019 11:27 AM
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And would probably be better than orange overalls.

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"tough love" =


Posted: Dec 11, 2019 1:29 PM
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Clemson basketball should be far better than we are in year 10 of Brownell's tenure. You should accept this reality for what it is instead of deluding yourself with played out, weak excuses.

That's tough love, ma'am.


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Posted: Oct 16, 2019 4:56 PM
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Top Deck or Upper Deck?


Posted: Oct 16, 2019 5:02 PM
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Discuss

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Re: Top Deck or Upper Deck?

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Posted: Oct 16, 2019 6:35 PM
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Both have their advantages.

The older i get, the more i prefer Lower.

JMO.


Re: Top Deck or Upper Deck?


Posted: Oct 16, 2019 6:35 PM
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Both have their advantages.

The older i get, the more i prefer Lower.

JMO.


Re: Top Deck or Upper Deck?

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Posted: Oct 17, 2019 7:23 AM
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Although I've always known it as the upper deck, either name is OK with me.


Dang Judge Keller


Posted: Oct 16, 2019 8:48 PM
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I thought you sold a bunch of orange overalls. I wear them in the woods so I won’t get shot. The Liberty ones were pretty weak, though.


Re: Since we are discussing ridiculous things today...

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Posted: Oct 16, 2019 8:58 PM
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I'll bet you're fun at parties. Geezzzz...

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Posted: Oct 17, 2019 10:47 AM
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Orange overalls is a poor look in any year really.

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Posted: Oct 16, 2019 11:21 PM
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But it's our poor look, and it's fun. Part of the mystique.

That Disney production really highlighted those in their footage. Thought that was cool.

Go Tigers.

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Posted: Oct 17, 2019 10:56 AM
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I never knew that an internet post disliking orange overalls would bother some of you so much.

There is no need to equate not liking orange overalls with some hatred of farmers or lack of pride in Clemson's agricultural history. My post wasn't an attack on farmers, rural America, your grand-pappy who was a farmer, you, or anyone else.

I just happen to think that overalls are a better look for farming, and not for representing our fine university at a football game.

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Perhaps it would be best if you change your user name

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Posted: Oct 17, 2019 11:08 AM
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since you have a problem with a tradition that is so closely tied to Judge Keller's.

You have failed to answer a key question here, why do you think it is a bad look in 2019 to honor our school's agriculture roots?

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I don't think orange overalls honor our history worth a crap


Posted: Oct 17, 2019 12:16 PM
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I seriously doubt that most people watching our football games see the orange overalls and say, "Wow, that's great, Clemson must have an agricultural history and that's why they are wearing orange overalls." Instead, they are saying, "Why are those people wearing overalls?!?"

If the intention is to honor the school's agricultural history, two things need to be clear:

1. That we have an agricultural history. Many people at the game, or watching on TV, probably don't know that.
2. That we are honoring our agricultural history in a specific way.

There is nothing agricultural about waving flags with letters on them, so the overalls just look out of place.

Some ideas I have to better honor our agricultural history:

1. Have a dedicated farmer's market on campus and perhaps even in/around the stadium with Clemson items (fruits, veggies, Clemson blue cheese, Clemson milk shakes, etc.)
2. Instead of having concession stands using mass produced ingredients from a large food service provider, be unique and use locally sourced/family farmed ingredients. These would be much healthier items and actually do something good for the local economy, rather than buying the same standard fare from industrial farmers.
3. Dedicate a game each year to honoring local farmers. Recognize local farmers who graduated from Clemson and own farms. Let the band play a special set of songs to somehow honor agriculture/farming life. It could be really fun.

Those are just some of my ideas.

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Re: I don't think orange overalls honor our history worth a crap

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Posted: Oct 17, 2019 1:30 PM
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I think more people than you think “get it”. If they don’t, oh well. I think most fans don’t worry about image in that way. That we have a great team that get a great education and are developed as young men is what matters. Fashionistas be d@mned. Besides, even though it’s 2019 some of us still realize food doesn’t come from grocery stores. Oh, on the snowflake thing. Could being worried about what someone thinks of our flag-bearer’s overalls be a wee bit flakeish? Asking for a friend.


There is a fine line between caring too much what people think


Posted: Oct 17, 2019 9:30 PM
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and realizing that powerful messaging is in the details.

Of course we shouldn’t let random people’s whims dictate our every move. But if we care about portraying Clemson in the best light possible, which I hope we all do, then we should periodically ask ourselves how we are doing with our messaging.

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You seem to be doing very well with your messaging...

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Posted: Oct 17, 2019 9:36 PM
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20%, lol, the people have spoken.




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"I've played multiple sports and would bet any amount that I'm still more athletic than you at this present time...."


Who cares what those simpletons think.

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Posted: Oct 18, 2019 10:03 AM
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signed, Judge Keller®

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If pigs are so smart, why do 66% of them use weak and inferior materials during construction?


So basically any visual reminder of our agricultural

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Posted: Oct 18, 2019 9:10 AM
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heritage is embarrassing and beneath us?

Got it.

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Way to completely miss the point.


Posted: Oct 18, 2019 11:28 AM
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You really don't read well, do you?

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OK I'll amend my original statement...

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Posted: Oct 18, 2019 11:45 AM
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So basically any reminder of our agricultural heritage that is visible on TV during a sporting event is embarrassing and beneath us?

Got it.

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Those farmers should just be happy with a farmers market...

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Posted: Oct 18, 2019 12:24 PM
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somewhere on campus. Why are they always trying to cause trouble?

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"I've played multiple sports and would bet any amount that I'm still more athletic than you at this present time...."


Hopefully somewhere out of sight and away from TV cameras

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Posted: Oct 18, 2019 12:29 PM
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.

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If pigs are so smart, why do 66% of them use weak and inferior materials during construction?


Hey, farmer, go work the farmers market on game day.

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Posted: Oct 18, 2019 12:42 PM
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That’s some tribute.

Maybe we could honor our packaging science majors by having them fold pizza boxes?




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"I've played multiple sports and would bet any amount that I'm still more athletic than you at this present time...."


You must've missed my suggestions as to how


Posted: Oct 18, 2019 1:42 PM
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we can better honor our farming history, as well as current farmers, at Clemson.

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Nope, that’s exactly where I got this.


Posted: Oct 18, 2019 1:45 PM
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And exactly why I’m making fun of it.

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"I've played multiple sports and would bet any amount that I'm still more athletic than you at this present time...."


Is making fun of over Clemson people's opinions


Posted: Oct 18, 2019 1:54 PM
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and thoughts also a tradition? Asking for a friend.

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You’re getting what you’re getting b/c you are...

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Posted: Oct 18, 2019 1:58 PM
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doubling down. If you were a true fan, who cared about other fan’s perspectives, you would have played this differently, but you didn’t, so quit whining about the heat you’re getting.


Message was edited by: Francis Marion®


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"I've played multiple sports and would bet any amount that I'm still more athletic than you at this present time...."


It's clearly not embarrassing or beneath us


Posted: Oct 18, 2019 1:41 PM
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based on the fact that we do it and many of you have jumped all over me for daring to disagree with it.

I just don't like it and don't think it sends the right message in 2019.

Again, if we truly want to honor our agricultural history, there are other, better ways to do it than with orange overalls.

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Says you...

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Posted: Oct 18, 2019 1:47 PM
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And literally no one else, except a bunch of people who apparently have sought you out to question this.

Lol, this is weak dude. W.E.A.K.

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"I've played multiple sports and would bet any amount that I'm still more athletic than you at this present time...."


WEAK is placing so much importance


Posted: Oct 18, 2019 1:55 PM
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to the point of divinity, on a pair of orange overalls!

I merely stated that they aren't a good look, and offered better ways to honor our agricultural history at Clemson. Why does this bother you so much?

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Apparently you’re in the minority.

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Posted: Oct 18, 2019 2:01 PM
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Why does that bother you so much?


Message was edited by: Francis Marion®


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"I've played multiple sports and would bet any amount that I'm still more athletic than you at this present time...."


I wonder how those flag wavers in the endzone feel,

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Posted: Oct 18, 2019 8:49 PM
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when someone claiming to be a fan, says they look "stupid'.

Your words, not mine.

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If pigs are so smart, why do 66% of them use weak and inferior materials during construction?


Sports bras while covered in paint.


Posted: Oct 17, 2019 11:00 AM
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or guys covered in paint and glitter!


How is it possible for you to have this take with

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Posted: Oct 17, 2019 11:14 AM
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the handle Judge Keller???

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GO TIGERS!!


Because Judge Keller, and his store, were/are about


Posted: Oct 17, 2019 12:19 PM
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far more than orange overalls.

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Brad Brownell: all-time winningest coach in Clemson men's basketball history, and only coach to beat North Carolina in Chapel Hill.


So is Clemson.

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Posted: Oct 17, 2019 9:37 PM
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Enjoy the parts you like and let others do the same.

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"I've played multiple sports and would bet any amount that I'm still more athletic than you at this present time...."


Likewise, you should allow people to have opinions


Posted: Oct 18, 2019 11:29 AM
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about Clemson that you might not share.

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I’m not surprised you don’t see the difference.

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Posted: Oct 18, 2019 11:53 AM
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I’m not trying to take away any tradition from a Clemson fan, nor am I insulting a large portion of the fan base in the process. I’m simply pointing out, that while you are entitled to your opinion, you don’t speak for everyone.

And also, your opinion is dumb.




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"I've played multiple sports and would bet any amount that I'm still more athletic than you at this present time...."


Not liking orange overalls is insulting a large portion


Posted: Oct 18, 2019 1:43 PM
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of our fan base?

WOW.

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Re: Not liking orange overalls is insulting a large portion

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Posted: Oct 18, 2019 1:48 PM
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Your Meme, not mine...



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"I've played multiple sports and would bet any amount that I'm still more athletic than you at this present time...."


so its, "do as I say, not as I do"?


Posted: Dec 11, 2019 1:34 PM
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Yep, just like a woman.


I like the Orange britches...

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Posted: Oct 17, 2019 12:28 PM
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...part of Clemson and Clemson College FB tradition.

Just my .02...


I bet you like the woohoo, don't you?***


Posted: Oct 18, 2019 1:54 PM
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unabashed bump

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Posted: Oct 18, 2019 8:04 PM
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for the December crowd

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If pigs are so smart, why do 66% of them use weak and inferior materials during construction?


Funny

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Posted: Dec 11, 2019 4:53 PM
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and clever.


Re: Since we are discussing ridiculous things today...


Posted: Dec 11, 2019 1:05 PM
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Well as I sat there Saturday night watching the guy run back and forth with the flag after every score. I was hoping for a not top 10 moment with him falling on national TV. That would have been hilarious!


I really wish

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Posted: Dec 11, 2019 1:06 PM
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RevDodd® was around to see this nonsense!

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Make it idjit proof and someone will make a better idjit.


He's here in spirit though.......

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Posted: Dec 11, 2019 1:09 PM
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https://www.tigernet.com/forum/thread/Son-those-overalls-support-Clemson-more-than-you-ever-will-431708

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I miss the rev...

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Posted: Dec 11, 2019 8:58 PM
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:(


Re: Since we are discussing ridiculous things today...

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Posted: Dec 11, 2019 1:18 PM
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I would say most people dont care what the flag wavers are wearing and most Clemson fans love all the Orange at the football game. The orange overalls just add more of our favorite football color to the game. Who cares whether its overalls or three piece suits as long as its Clemson orange?

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I'd wager that most people so adamantly defending


Posted: Dec 11, 2019 8:56 PM
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orange overalls wouldn't be a fan of the suits. They would say that a suit was dressing up too much, and trying too hard to impress people for a country ag school.

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"ridiculous things"

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Posted: Dec 11, 2019 1:23 PM
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You mean like your weak clemson basketball excuses? I think you should try harder not to troll or antagonize, lest you will be called out for said weak excuses.

Have a good one.


Uhh Oklahoma rides out in a covered wagon

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Posted: Dec 11, 2019 1:30 PM
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before their games. It’s college football. You need to lighten up. You’ve gone from being a shill for Brad that occasionally made sense with numbers, to attacking traditions of our most successful program in history.


Re: Uhh Oklahoma rides out in a covered wagon

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Posted: Dec 11, 2019 3:17 PM
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Judge Keller will turn on Brownell is NY minute if he shows up coaching a game in orange overalls.


I think JK would rush out to buy a pear if saw Brad rocking

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Posted: Dec 11, 2019 4:14 PM
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the O-hauls.

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If pigs are so smart, why do 66% of them use weak and inferior materials during construction?


Re: I think JK would rush out to buy a pear if saw Brad rocking

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Posted: Dec 11, 2019 9:16 PM
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Yep and this thread has completely changed my opinion of Judge Keller
And i am a gonna get me orange overhauls for game day!
Already got the straw hat and the Ag Eng degree from clemson college


Re: I think JK would rush out to buy a pear if saw Brad rocking

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Posted: Dec 11, 2019 9:16 PM
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Yep and this thread has completely changed my opinion of Judge Keller
And i am a gonna get me orange overhauls for game day!
Already got the straw hat and the Ag Eng degree from clemson college


Nope, I'll turn on Brownell when he stops coaching hard


Posted: Dec 11, 2019 8:59 PM
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and/or representing our university with class.

The same approach I have with all of our coaches.

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Re: Nope, I'll turn on Brownell when he stops coaching hard

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Posted: Dec 11, 2019 9:06 PM
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So you’re finally on record that there is no performance threshold low enough that you would ever want to move on from Brownell. Just your entirely subjective belief that he coaches hard and with class - presumably greater amounts of both than would be replacements. Larry Shyatt coached hard and with class. Larry is a great guy and extremely well respected in the profession. Should we have ever fired him? He averaged significantly higher attendance than Brownell. But that can’t possibly be in anyway Brad’s responsibility. His only job is to coach hard and with class.

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That’s the same courtesy you extend all our coaches?

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Posted: Dec 11, 2019 9:32 PM
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https://www.tigernet.com/forum/message/Re-I-wasnt-ready-to-fire-anyone-26499476

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"I've played multiple sports and would bet any amount that I'm still more athletic than you at this present time...."


You need to lighten up - it's overalls!***


Posted: Dec 11, 2019 8:57 PM
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Re: You need to lighten up - it's overalls!***


Posted: Dec 11, 2019 9:12 PM
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### - literally same.

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Re: You need to lighten up - it's overalls!***

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Posted: Dec 12, 2019 9:13 AM
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Says the gal who started a thread about how she hates the "stupid" looking orange overalls.





sarcastic gif in lieu of useful input below.......







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If pigs are so smart, why do 66% of them use weak and inferior materials during construction?


Orange Overalls?

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Posted: Dec 11, 2019 1:46 PM
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Are you kidding? This is Clemson football, orange overalls have been associated with it since at least the late 70s that I know of. Would you rather the flag wavers wear their orange frat blazers? Jumpsuits and lederhosen?

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Since you're so concerned about honoring our history


Posted: Dec 11, 2019 8:59 PM
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are you also wanting to honor our roots as a segregated all male school? It was a prominent part of our history for a long time, just as agriculture was.

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I will trade them for the Country Gentleman..............***


Posted: Dec 11, 2019 4:28 PM
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I think I have a solution. We are also a textile school

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Posted: Dec 11, 2019 4:36 PM
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I think we should wear white sheets to show our affiliation with the textile industry and our affinity for woven goods.

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Re: I think I have a solution. We are also a textile school

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Posted: Dec 11, 2019 4:40 PM
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If pigs are so smart, why do 66% of them use weak and inferior materials during construction?


This is a really dumb thread.

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Posted: Dec 11, 2019 5:05 PM
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So, I'll join in.....

I really miss the orange straw hat look of the 60s and early 70s. That was a fashion statement.

I don't miss the shorts,long sleeve shirt, tie and sport coat look the frat guys all wore too often.

I've never worn orange bib overalls to a game. Come to think of it, I've never owned any bib overalls.

I think the Georgia look, you know the guys with the spikes on their shoulders, represents UGa perfectly.

I enjoyed the look of the liberated woman which the braless look of the the 70s captured so well. I also enjoyed following young women up the steps of Memorial Stadium when mini-skirts were the rage. (Call me a creep if you must but I did enjoy it.)

I don't miss the sports coat look of the late 60s or the suit look of the 50s at all.

I've never worn a jersey to a game unless I was playing. And I never will.

I might be odd, but I've never once looked at the clothing worn by fans at football games and thought anything at all about how the fans were representing their university.

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Back to the drawing board....

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Posted: Dec 11, 2019 5:15 PM
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He has opinions on our textile history too...

https://www.tigernet.com/forum/message/Its-definitely-time-to-stop-calling-it-the-Textile-Bowl-24259311




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"I've played multiple sports and would bet any amount that I'm still more athletic than you at this present time...."


You didn't get the help I recommended, did you?


Posted: Dec 11, 2019 9:03 PM
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Your stalking is becoming more concerning.

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Yeah...

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Posted: Dec 11, 2019 9:26 PM
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That’s gonna work. I’m the bad guy because I have a great memory and/or found a post made on a public message board. Lol.




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JFC what an idiot

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Posted: Dec 12, 2019 9:11 AM
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I guess all of the textile companies that are moving to the upstate and Raleigh area because they can access the talent pipeline from Clemson and NCSU don't count? Or the fact that the Southern Textile Association has at least one major conference a year in Clemson at the Madren Center. The number of Clemson grads that are working in textiles is pretty astounding. And I have attended 2 major textile trade shows in Raleigh this year where NCSU was a major contributor. To say "textiles is not a meaningful part of either school" is really, really ignorant.

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Well, if you thought JK was above making stuff up...

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Posted: Dec 12, 2019 9:39 AM
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to support his agenda, you gave him too much credit.

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"I've played multiple sports and would bet any amount that I'm still more athletic than you at this present time...."


This is hilarious.


Posted: Dec 11, 2019 9:01 PM
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But I don't think many people here will appreciate your humor.

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Brad Brownell: all-time winningest coach in Clemson men's basketball history, and only coach to beat North Carolina in Chapel Hill.


Re: Since we are discussing ridiculous things today...

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Posted: Dec 11, 2019 4:57 PM
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Delete your account.

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