I'm guessing you don't own a bar a gym or a restaurant***

Well ,imo, it will come but actually from a big picture not be helpful. Unless one is willing to lockdown the State lines, maybe even cities/towns as in no in or out.

Unless you do those it is useless as once lifted all it takes is a couple infected from elsehwhere to begin in all over again.We are in a loop until a vaccine is available.

Now this does not mean to just toss up your hands and say screw it, not by a long shot. Close down bars,gyms,churches,sit down dining and enforce mandatory mask wearing anytime outside your home. To include offices and places of work on mask wearing. While the WHO and others quibble over whether it is airborne I can say that unless the system has hospital grade HEPA filters it is a problem. Plus it can blow a cough or sneeze all over an enclosed space.

Life is changed and the sooner folks get on board the better off we all will be going forward. Biggest thing the FEDS can do is ensure a supply,steady and vast supply, of N95 masks,hand sanitizer and wipes are in stores at pre pandemic prices for citizens to buy. Oh, and put in prison those selling fake products for jacked up prices.

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Overall, right or wrong, it balances out.

Jul 12, 2020, 1:03 PM

You can look at is as inefficient, etc. But you have to take people into account. The most efficient thing is to make abortion and gay marriage legal everywhere. And it's done. By 9 appointed judges in Washington DC. Righthood is established, and then universally applied per the 16th Amendment.

Problem solved right? Well, when you apply that dictate on all 50 states, you've just pissed off 50% of Americans, if it's a 50-50 issue anyway. Our founders approach was allow each state to decide. As such, the overall number of pissed off Americans would be less as each state decides yea or nay based on their local populations. So in SC maybe 10% or 20% would be ticked if abortion was made illegal. In California, perhaps 10-20% would be ticked off when they made it legal. But collectively, having 10-20% of people ticked off in those states, leads to less than 50% of people being ticked off nationwide. That universe of ticked off people declines in a republic. It rises in diverse democracies. That's why we are a democratic republic and not a democracy in the traditional sense. When the fight moves to Washington DC, that's when the wheels fly off a divisive issue. Slavery was a state issue, until it became a Senate battle, as states were still forming at the time in the west. That caused the civil war. It wouldn't exist today in either event as technology destroyed that job anyway.

But to Trump's credit, although he has failed miserably to set even modest standards or an example because he's a one-pony show, and offering financial and logistical support, he has allowed the bad thing to be dealt with locally. It is essential. Hence why I said watch your local leaders, not Washington for help with this. It is really a very tricky balance our founders struck. But we've reverted back to local control on the covid issue more than any other issue I've ever seen. On this one issue, we've acted more republican than on any other in my lifetime anyway (maybe pot is second). Sure, Trump could lead better on it. He's a bad leader. But at least he's smart enough to bail when he knows it's bad news. My beef with Trump isn't his not doing anything about it, it's his lack of leadership which is, after all, the ability to get other people to do something they would otherwise not do. That is leadership defined. Like wear a mask, and lead by example. Take steps to fund and manage logistics. Lobby closed states to open more, and open states to close more. Some states have people who really do not want to open up. Others have people who really don't want to close anything. Both are extremes. A leader and leadership brings each to a more reasonable and overall better and more effective balance.

But mechanically, the power and control of this is with the states, counties, and municipalities. And that should be the case to minimize the universe of ticked off Americans. States, counties, and especially municipalities will be far more responsive to their citizens than we can ever hope from Washington.

Meanwhile, you have Trump threatening to send in federal troops for local protests, and withold funding to states who refuse to fully open schools. That's the kind of crap where Trump's screwing up.

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people separated in restaurant by tables is bad

They'll be back. And won't work a 2nd time.

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No one will lead on this, same reason no one leads on

+1 for the "democracy"....***

That’s really been our problem hasn’t it

Overall, right or wrong, it balances out.

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