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110%er [6577]
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Hey York_Tiger...
May 16, 2012, 10:35 AM
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IF all this goes down with Big XII... who would you want to see:
Just Clemson and Fl State? Or... would you rather see them expand to 14 and grab some like Georgia Tech, Notre Dame, Miami, Va Tech, etc..?
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I think expanding to 14 is the best case for them to get
May 16, 2012, 10:37 AM
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both FSU and Clemson...
If they go 14, I would want Clemson/FSU/GT/VT.
However, the issue then becomes buyout money. They can probably help Clem/FSU... but not sure about 4 teams.
According to Greg Swaim, the ACC is going to get nuked. No one is happy, (non-NC schools). The question is will ANYTHING be left.
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yeah... it seems to be heading in that direction.
May 16, 2012, 10:41 AM
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I've been keeping up with Greg and "the Dude" since January. Pretty interesting to see how they've been right so far...
I think Clemson and FSU is who they'll help with buyout... and think that GT and VT, if offered, would take the hit to get out of the ACC... the sinking ship.
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Swaim also just said this... regarding Texas...
May 16, 2012, 10:45 AM
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Greg Swaim ? @GSwaim
Hearing Dodds will go along with consensus to keep unity, and #Big12 "not opposed to grabbing multiple teams, if they're the right teams."
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110%er [6577]
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If they expand to 14, and grab FSU, Clem, VT, and GT
May 16, 2012, 10:47 AM
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that is one HELLUVA conference. I mean... dang. That is right there with SEC, in my opinion.
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Orange Blooded [3573]
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I don't want to go to the B12 with just FSU, but
May 16, 2012, 10:51 AM
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if that package of 4 were to go together, I'm 100% in.
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Pick up those teams, plus WVA.....
May 16, 2012, 10:57 AM
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...and suddenly that "It's too far to travel" stuff goes out the window if they split into east-west divisions.
I guess they move Iowa State to the east, but they've always been an orphan team anyway...
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Re: Pick up those teams, plus WVA.....
May 16, 2012, 11:01 AM
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That would have 6 in the east and 8 in the west.
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I would say keep Iowa st in West, and bring Kansas and
May 16, 2012, 11:02 AM
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Kansas st to East.
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Picky, picky! OK, give us Kansas as well...
May 16, 2012, 11:18 AM
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...since the ACC schools are already used to snooty blue-wearing entitled basketball teams.
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OR.......and I like this better......add two more teams from
May 16, 2012, 11:25 AM
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our geographical proximity and create a true east/west conference of 16 teams. I'd like to see a fairly tight eastern division.
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Miami has purportedly said they are not interested....
May 16, 2012, 11:18 AM
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in considering a move to the Big XII.
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I heard a little differently...
May 16, 2012, 11:23 AM
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The Big 12 said no thanks to Miami (too much baggage), and that's when Miami suddenly became "not interested".
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Re: If they expand to 14, and grab FSU, Clem, VT, and GT
May 16, 2012, 11:30 AM
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I think there will be all kinds of political pressure to keep VT out of the mix. But it sure would be interesting. I don't think NC State has any desire to be the 14th team, but stranger things have happened.
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Re: Hey York_Tiger...
May 16, 2012, 10:38 AM
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Not York but I would like to see Louisville and GT.
I cant stand Miami.
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i doubt Miami happens..... and I think UL and Cincy are down
May 16, 2012, 10:40 AM
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the list
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If the blogger is at all accurete and to be believed....
May 16, 2012, 11:23 AM
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it seems that FSU, Clemson, and Georgia Tech and the top targets. If the Big XII can land all three, the question then becomes, who is No. 14; Virginia Tech, Notre Dame, NC State, Maryland?
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Re: Hey York_Tiger...
May 16, 2012, 10:51 AM
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I think it would be important for them to grab the southern football schools out of the ACC if only to keep some regional rivalries and encourage fan travel.
I like the idea of Clemson in the Big 12, if only because I am fed up with the ACC. I think it would be great if we could have an eastern division with Clemson, FSU, GT, WVU, and some combo of VT, Maryland, NC ST, Miami. An East vs West format in the B12 would be pretty awesome. It would also ensure fans could easily travel to most games like we can now.
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Hey Knightiger
May 16, 2012, 10:57 AM
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Not being able to see the complete picture of the Oregon girl is just depressing. I mean really, having to scroll down just isn't the same.
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I AGREE!! I don't know why Crump changed that. Crazy.***
May 16, 2012, 10:59 AM
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Why did Clemson
May 16, 2012, 11:00 AM
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and other member schools agree to up the buyout to 20 million last year. To me unless there is a lot of financial help with the buyout or teams can sue their way out of most of the buyout, it is a deal breaker. It would be a 4 year payback. Who know what will be going on in 4 years with college football.
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Big XII would help with buyout if they really want
May 16, 2012, 11:01 AM
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Clemson and FSU..
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Who was going to say no to that?
May 16, 2012, 11:31 AM
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Raising the exit fee was a test of loyalty, nothing more. Anyone who said "no, it's good where it is" would automatically be suspected of trying to defect.
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I would love to see the ACC crippled to the point of
May 16, 2012, 11:06 AM
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extinction, but I doubt all four would go to the BigXII. Nevertheless, the only way I'm in favor of FSU and CU to the BigXII is if there are enough eastern/southern schools added to make a true eastern division. Otherwise, we'll wind up just as unhappy there as we are here. The Texas/OK schools will have it made geographically while we're outsiders politically and geographically. I want to be on equal footing at least within our division.
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