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Sep 4, 2018, 6:21 PM
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Lot o points [155944]
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I'll tell you who the real hero is:
Sep 4, 2018, 6:28 PM
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Col. Charles "Chappy" Sinclair
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Re: I'll tell you who the real hero is:
Sep 4, 2018, 9:50 PM
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Honey Roy Palmer beat up ten rednecks in one day without the help of a pilot's son, the USAF or an F-16 fighter.
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I know this has become a favorite false dichotomy in this
Sep 4, 2018, 6:36 PM
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Throw in military folks as a counter to Kaepernick. Hell, running to military examples has always been the refuge of scoundrels in a debate, especially when the discussion at hand has nothing to do with the military. Because who is going to say something bad about the military, right?
Kaepernick's actions have nothing to do with the military, and no one is arguing he is some kind of great hero above soldiers. Again, let's remember, his protest isn't about our military and it isn't an insult to our military.
The most common usage has been Pat Tillman, of course, but let's hear the words of his own widow following Trump's invocation of Tillman's name in regards to the kneeling:
"The very action of self expression and the freedom to speak from one’s heart — no matter those views — is what Pat and so many other Americans have given their lives for."
Tillman himself didn't want his name exploited if he died.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2018/09/04/he-would-be-first-kneel-pat-tillman-exploited-attack-kaepernick-biographer-says/?utm_term=.9b53ea0a6929
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Taking a knee is not a protest.
Sep 4, 2018, 6:40 PM
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Knee all you want, what changes?
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Re: Taking a knee is not a protest.
Sep 4, 2018, 6:41 PM
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pro·test noun noun: protest; plural noun: protests ?pr??test/
1. a statement or action expressing disapproval of or objection to something.
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He really showed that National Anthem!***
Sep 4, 2018, 6:44 PM
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At the end of the day...
Sep 4, 2018, 6:45 PM
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It appears to accomplish nothing, this kneeling.
Except make some snowflakes extremely butthurt.
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Doesn't hurt my butt if he kneels.***
Sep 4, 2018, 6:47 PM
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Depends on how far you bend over!***
Sep 4, 2018, 6:49 PM
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Heeeyyyyyooooooooooooooo!***
Sep 4, 2018, 6:50 PM
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Peaceful protest is everyone's right, and is as American as
Sep 4, 2018, 7:14 PM
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apple pie. Not standing to honor the flag is disrespectful to the flag, what it stands for, and to those who sacrificed their lives defending the things it stands for. The flag should be a uniter, not a divider. I, like many Americans, supprort Kapernick's right to protest, but disagree with his using the symbols of American ideals in a disrespectful way to make his point. If his goal is to bring an end to what he believes is social injustice, he is failing on a massive scale. To bring about change, he is going to have to change the minds of people who don't already agree with him, yet all he is doing is pi$$ing those people off. On some level, he knows this, and I believe this is as much about his own ego as it is about doing anything for other people. He has certainly benefitted from the attention.
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Does he even talk?***
Sep 4, 2018, 7:16 PM
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Yes, and from what little I've heard, I don't agree with him
Sep 4, 2018, 7:29 PM
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at all. But, for the most part, I don't listen because he's chosen to draw attention to himself by being disrespectful to symbols that represent American ideals.
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He just wants his own Che Guevara like tshirt...
Sep 4, 2018, 9:09 PM
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with a swoosh.
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ohheckfire...fire rain eminent on yer head***
Sep 4, 2018, 6:42 PM
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Glen Coffee quit football in 2010. Joined Army in 2013.
Sep 4, 2018, 6:59 PM
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Did not give up football for the military.
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At least he looked for something positive to do...
Sep 4, 2018, 7:01 PM
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after he knew he couldn't make it in the NFL, eh?
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Re: At least he looked for something positive to do...
Sep 4, 2018, 7:05 PM
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This I agree with 100% that it was a apparently a good move for Glen. Pointing out to APM if he is going to use a visual, he should use an accurate one.
I remember when he walked away. Just said he was done and God had other plans for him.
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Noticed Trump's military record isn't used for CK comparison***
Sep 4, 2018, 7:02 PM
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Trump thinks Southerners are dumb.***
Sep 4, 2018, 7:17 PM
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So do most people.
Sep 4, 2018, 7:21 PM
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right?
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Kneels for the flag, bows for the dollar.
Sep 4, 2018, 7:04 PM
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And just cost Nike $4 Billion in stock value.
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