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Rival Killer [2650]
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So we shouldnt expect Omaha
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Jun 4, 2025, 6:14 AM
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And Bakich is fine. Our team just wasn’t that good…. Man you people are full of excuses……bottom line is he can’t coach in postseason. He can win 40 games every year….. we can’t host regionals. We can almost win the best conference in the country…..but when we go 1-2 in a home regional it’s because of all these reasons that aren’t bakichs fault. Are y’all serious????? Anybody who thinks that way is a threat to Clemson baseball. You same morons are defending Bakich the same way you defended monte. Even he never had an offense this bad.
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Rival Killer [2650]
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Re: So we shouldnt expect Omaha
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Jun 4, 2025, 6:15 AM
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We can host regionals I meant
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Re: So we shouldnt expect Omaha
Jun 4, 2025, 4:34 PM
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Charlie, my man, give it a break. Your opinions suck. Lay off the TigerNet and go get some fresh air.
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Gridiron Giant [15215]
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Re: So we shouldnt expect Omaha
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Jun 4, 2025, 10:51 AM
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ANYONE REALLY BELIEVE CHARLIE IS A TIGER. MY GUESS IS HE IS ONE OF THE TROLLS THAT WAS ON HERE A COUPLE YEARS AGO THAT GOT BANNED AND CAME BACK WITH A NEW HANDLE.
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Paw Warrior [4876]
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When is the last time we went to Omaha?
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Jun 4, 2025, 6:46 AM
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It's not Bakich, it's Clemson.
Hell, we still have the coach on staff who took us to Omaha and still can't make it back.
Monte Lee was a dud but the landscape has changed quickly under Bakich. I think he's done an admirable job with the talent he's had to work with. Especially pitching.
Now, he's got to improve. No doubt. But that will require a bigger budget.
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Jun 4, 2025, 7:21 AM
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He's got to improve. No doubt. But that will require a bigger budget.
This is correcy, baseball needs more support financially from AD and boosters. We shall see the number of scholarships give to baseball, hopefully full 34. But even the roster limits are still up in the air until the judge approves the settlement terms. Her main point was roster cuts. NIL needs to improve as well.
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Jun 4, 2025, 7:28 AM
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It’s not all about NIL. Texas baseball has been reported at $9M vs UTSA $800k. But I agree when LSU/Arky/Tenn can roll out flamethrowers 4 deep at 95-98 that gonna cost some $$.
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Geez. Just shut up already.***
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Jun 4, 2025, 7:32 AM
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Re: So we shouldnt expect Omaha
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Jun 4, 2025, 7:37 AM
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Expect means regard (something) as likely to happen. Since we have not been in a number of years, we should not expect to go. We can hope and wish to go and should make it clear to the coach it is one of our goals. I would not say Bakich cannot coach in the post season as it is really a matter of talent. He has put together good teams but not great teams in terms of talent. Has to find a way to take the next step. FWIW, whining and bluster on a message board will have zero impact on team performance.
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Winning is hard.
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Jun 4, 2025, 7:44 AM
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A lot of other teams are trying to win their conference, make it to Omaha, win a national championship, etc.
Have you looked at what some of those teams are doing? Have you looked at their funding? Facilities? Scholarships they are effectively providing?
If so, you might realize that while Clemson provides good support for baseball, we don’t have the funding or endowment scholarships or NIL that plenty of other programs do.
The reality is that there is a limited pool of funds and we have to decide how to spend that money when it comes to programs that are not self-sufficient (i.e., programs that lose money). Clemson baseball loses money every year, as all do.
I think Bakich is a good coach. He has done a good job. Being a fixture in Omaha is a nice goal to have, but it isn’t realistic right now for us. If we want that, it’s going to take maximizing our scholarships allotted to baseball as well as a real commitment to baseball from fans/donors. Is elite level baseball success that important to enough people?
Reflexively blaming the coach when the season doesn’t go as hoped is weak. He is only part of the puzzle these days. A lot has changed since Wilhelm was our coach.
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Ultimate Tiger [33917]
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He won an acc tournament.. so there's that.***
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Jun 4, 2025, 7:50 AM
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Jun 4, 2025, 7:53 AM
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No. Hope for maybe but not expect. Just no evidence suggesting that’s a reasonable expectation.
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Jun 4, 2025, 8:23 AM
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Reasonable expectations are going to be subjective. What are yours? Right now it seems Omaha at least every three years. That's a huge demand.
We're a long way from the Golden days of Leggett's tenure of 1994-2010. Things have changed. We should never hope for less, but saying to fire a coach who won 133 games in three seasons and hosted three straight regionals is premature.
I keep hearing that numerous schools that I would have thought would be all in on baseball are going to have 15 (GA Tech) and 24 (Virginia, which might be why O'Connor bolted) scholarships. Clemson says they will go full at 34, provided judge Wilken signs off on it. That would be a huge boost in onfield success, provided Bakich evaluates and develops accordingly.
There is a real lack of patience since it will be at least 16 years since Clemson last made Omaha. That frustration is now manifesting. It still takes time to build a program even with the portal and NIL. Constant changes in the landscape make it hard to navigate.
Bad as the offense was this year, it was good the last two. Pitching has been a mess for the past three years. Especially the last two.
You say 1 more year for Omaha. I would say at least 2 more and depending on the results.
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Very well said. And I must say that judge keller made some excellent observations as well. I'll have to say in hindsight, this past season was a transition season in sorts. Let me explain.
Year 3 we've lost most of Montes recruiting. In hindsight, he actually had some pretty good talent. He just wasn't a head coach... if that makes sense. So this season was a lot of Bakich players. As he admitted, we overachieved. The transfers he brought in didn't do didly. I like listi but he didn't exactly shine. He and Cam were the only two that sniffed. 300. That's pitiful when you consider in hindsight, our schedule was weak.
I'm a huge EB fan and totally believe he's the right coach. But something is amiss. I'm seeing less talent coming in than Monte. The eval on the transfers seem suspect. Is it development? Leading the acc in strikeouts is concerning, especially given his philosophy to put the ball in play. That's what he's preached from day 1.
True, the landscape has changed. But it's changed for every team. Whether we make Omaha next year or not isn't a metrics for me. But we need to see vast improvement in our metrics BA and era etc. If we see that, Omaha will take care of itself. Realistically, I think winning our regional and at least being competitive in a super regional. But definitely Omaha within the next 2 years.
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Paw Master [16818]
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Re: So we shouldnt expect Omaha
Jun 4, 2025, 12:15 PM
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I thought we had a strong strength of schedule?
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And Bakich is fine. Our team just wasn’t that good…. Man you people are full of excuses……bottom line is he can’t coach in postseason. He can win 40 games every year….. we can’t host regionals. We can almost win the best conference in the country…..but when we go 1-2 in a home regional it’s because of all these reasons that aren’t bakichs fault. Are y’all serious????? Anybody who thinks that way is a threat to Clemson baseball. You same morons are defending Bakich the same way you defended monte. Even he never had an offense this bad.
OK POS, YOU HAS ALMOST CONVINCED ME THAT YOU, MUCH LIKE 81 ARE NOTHING MORE THAN A COOT TROLL. EB TOOK A TEAM FROM MICHIGAN, F'ING MICHIGAN, TO THE FINALS JUST A FEW SHORT YEARS AGO. YOU ARE A PATHETIC EXCUSE.
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Clemson Icon [26624]
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Jun 4, 2025, 10:03 AM
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Let it go coot!!!
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Jun 4, 2025, 10:12 AM
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There are 3 teams in the Super Regionals that were in the Series last year and only 2 that were in the Series in 23. Tennessee was in both 23 and 24 but no other school. Is Tennessee the only school that expected to make the Supers and the Series, no, but there are so many good players out there that is is entirely possible that there might be 8 teams this year that were in neither the 23 or 24 series. It is hard to win year after year at the level it takes to make the Series but that does not mean schools do not expect to go. What fans have to realize is not making the World Series does equal failure.
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Orange Phenom [15013]
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Re: So we shouldnt expect Omaha
Jun 4, 2025, 10:22 AM
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We haven't been to Omaha in 15 years, why should we expect it?
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Paw Warrior [4869]
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Jun 4, 2025, 11:05 AM
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The last time we went to Omaha, we had 2 pitchers that were expected to be early round MLB picks and at least 1 position player that was supposed to be an early round pick.
That doesn't include the talent from the underclassmen that weren't draft eligible.
I like the coach. I like the team.
We don't currently have that level of talent.
Quite possibly we are exceeding expected results with the level of talent we have.
That's kind of what I'd expect given we have a bunch of close wins and some blowout losses.
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"bottom line is he cant coach in postseason"...
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Jun 4, 2025, 11:21 AM
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But he took Michigan to the CWS Title a few years ago...
MICHIGAN!!!!
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