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Now that Roe versus Wade is overturned


Jun 24, 2022, 7:10 PM
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The Republicans have instantly made the mid-terms interesting all of a sudden. If they squeak it out, brilliant. If not, oh boy.

Just wondering if Republicans have bitten off the nose to spite the face here?

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Jun 24, 2022, 7:18 PM
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It gives the dems a rallying cry. But I do think the bigger cry will be the lack of money in everyone's pocket.

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Jun 24, 2022, 7:20 PM
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Agree. The economy is the biggest issue, followed closely by safety from rising crime. Not many votes are going to change over abortion.

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Jun 24, 2022, 7:22 PM
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Yep...

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Abortion will still be available in at least half

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Jun 24, 2022, 7:24 PM
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the country. People act like this totally bans it?? This ruling put the decision back where it belongs, with the states!!

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I know it's difficult for some of you to imagine...

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Jun 24, 2022, 7:56 PM
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but let's try....

Suppose you're a poor girl somewhere in East Texas who was raped by her shiiittty drunken uncle at 16 years old.

You get pregnant but you can't afford to travel to another state. You are now forced to have the child.

If you say, it's God's will tuff and have it then I have no words.

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Re: I know it's difficult for some of you to imagine...

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Jun 24, 2022, 8:10 PM
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This is why you base laws on solid ground, such as congressional acts ( a la the Civil Rights Act) or a constitutional amendment.

A court ruling is not a strong foundation for a law or right, and it foolish to base the right to an abortion on a court ruling.

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Jun 24, 2022, 8:16 PM
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I know it’s hard for you to understand but murder does not undo rape.

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Wow

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Jun 24, 2022, 8:27 PM
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I am glad opinions like yours aren't the majority is all I can say.

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Re: I know it's difficult for some of you to imagine...

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Jun 24, 2022, 8:44 PM
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The thing I find the most ironic is that a man can walk into a grocery store with a gun in a state like New York and kill a bunch of people because he doesn't like the color of their skin and he's not subject to capital punishment because that's not allowed in states like that. Yet those same states will ultimately uphold abortion laws and continue to allow innocent unborn babies to be murdered by their mothers. Evildoers are allowed to live, yet innocent babies are not?

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In that scenario what does skin color have to do with it?


Jun 24, 2022, 9:49 PM
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?

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murder as a hate crime is generally viewed more


Jun 25, 2022, 7:03 AM
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egregious than just plain murder

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Jun 24, 2022, 9:57 PM
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Federal Govt will send that guy to death row. No worries.

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The situation you reference is an incredibly difficult one,

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Jun 24, 2022, 8:54 PM
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and a girl in that situation does not deserve to be coldly dismissed as a statistical anomaly, but less than 1% of abortions are performed secondary to rape.

Public policy must address the problem honestly and in full view of the data. It’s the other 99% that deserves the most focus when it comes to this issue. Anything less is myopic sensationalism.

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Jun 24, 2022, 9:24 PM
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Well seeing that happens less than 4 percent of the time I’m sure they will figure that part out.

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Jun 24, 2022, 8:30 PM
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.........you know, the cities in the blue states. the ones

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Jun 24, 2022, 8:31 PM
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where you have to bring a broom handle to a gunfight....

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Then who's going to pay the bills?***


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Jun 24, 2022, 10:01 PM
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Why don't you leave it up to the individual to decide?

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Jun 24, 2022, 7:18 PM
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SCOTUS also ruled (8 - 1) that states can require IDs for voters and challenge in court any requirements not to have IDs to vote. That should get the election back to where it was going to be.

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Must be why dementia joe slipped up and mentioned


Jun 24, 2022, 7:21 PM
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the next pandemic that is coming.

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Jun 24, 2022, 7:23 PM
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Hahahahaha...

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It does not matter WHO votes....or how they vote


Jun 24, 2022, 8:34 PM
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https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2022/06/breaking-voterga-challenges-georgia-secretary-state-raffenspergers-sos-primary-results/


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By simply asking the question you get TD here.

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Jun 24, 2022, 7:30 PM
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Fragile psyche?

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Jun 24, 2022, 7:36 PM
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Murdering babies should be illegal.

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Jun 24, 2022, 8:34 PM
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But yet the left think the death penalty is inhuman. Makes zero sense.

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Exactly!


Jun 24, 2022, 11:27 PM
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Neither party consistently supports life from conception to death. It’s maddening.

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I don’t know PBT. I felt the US has been legislating thru the court since the late 60s early 70s.

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Jun 24, 2022, 7:41 PM
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Today we took a bit of a step back to a constitutional republic imo. I see that as a good thing.

It’s a state’s rights issue. We have been slowly moving away from that for a while.

I’m not sure which way keeps us more fractioned as a nation. But today’s decision will be a ruff patch to get thru. We’ve been used to having the court help legislate for so long, most past the boomers don’t know it any other way.


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Not really my question though.

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Jun 24, 2022, 7:44 PM
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I am not speaking about the morality of it, that's a different discussion.

Republicans were on course to take the senate and possibly the house at the midterms. Polling shows that overwhelmingly (again not to agree or disagree with abortion here) for a woman's right to choose.

My question is, so overloading the court with religious conservates that overturn Roe v Wade with so many American's agreeing with R v W hurt Republicans' chances in the midterms?

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What was the question? How will this effect the election?


Jun 24, 2022, 7:48 PM
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Re: What was the question? How will this effect the election?


Jun 24, 2022, 7:51 PM
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Bite of the nose to spite the face is an idiom meaning, you won the battle but possibly lose the war. I don't know how else to simplify it further for you, sorry.

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Yeah I got your question. Said I didn’t know. Who knows the future?

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Jun 24, 2022, 8:08 PM
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If you see the battle as a states rights issue instead of R v D battle, then the war is long.

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I thought this was a CLEMSON Athletics Site?

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Jun 24, 2022, 7:45 PM
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Not for politics

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Jun 24, 2022, 7:52 PM
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Well this is the Amphitheater, right? Or did I accidentally post on the Clemson Football board?

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there is an entirely separate politics board


Jun 24, 2022, 7:54 PM
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Amphitheater is non sports related Clemson things

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I stand corrected, however


Jun 24, 2022, 8:05 PM
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How many times does this type of thing get posted on the main football board without any complaints as you align with the group think that normally goes on here?

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If more folks would do like me & select Tiger Boards, all


Jun 24, 2022, 10:35 PM
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messages will show up, and I select what to read by the header... I don't even usually notice which board a particular message is in, and could not care less.

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Jun 24, 2022, 7:53 PM
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republicans did nothing. the supreme court which is the head of the nonpartisan judicial branch of government determined that the country’s government had overreached its authority and power and gave that power back to the individual states of this republic to decide what should or shouldn’t be allowed.

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Com'on man, Supreme court is bipartisan?

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Jun 24, 2022, 7:59 PM
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You honestly believe that?

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Jun 24, 2022, 9:34 PM
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Imagine thinking this supreme court is "nonpartisan"

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It's all local elections

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Jun 24, 2022, 7:55 PM
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We know how most districts and states will go. Those purple states except for Georgia and maybe NC are going to have even looser abortion laws. Watch the reaction the next week or 2. If civil unrest does erupt that hurts Dems. Polling has largely showed a solid majority favors some limitations on abortions nationwide. Only idiotic states like California and a few others have basically no limitations.

By November we could have hyper-inflation, a recession, and a ground war expanding in Europe. Abortion won't be driving the vote, 401K's and food shortages will be

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Stiperfan....


Jun 24, 2022, 8:02 PM
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Limits on abortion or overall BAN on abortion?

Because "limits" aren't what's going on here and you know it.

The majority of Americans support a woman's right to choose, fact. I am not putting my personal opinion on it because I could NEVER abort a baby.

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Jun 24, 2022, 8:14 PM
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I think by the time November gets here, the abortion thing will just be a talking point for the democrats. I think the economy tanking, gas at $7 a gallon, rampant inflation and a possible war with Russia will be the biggest priorities.

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Jun 24, 2022, 8:19 PM
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Will have very little impact on the midterms. Economy, inflation, open borders, gas prices, baby formula debacle, port confusion, and pitiful performance in the administration will have the biggest impact.

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Jun 24, 2022, 8:22 PM
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I forgot crime which is a big problem.

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The swing states won't ban it

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Jun 24, 2022, 8:27 PM
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Only red states will, with some possible exceptions for some extreme circumstances. Even purple states with Rep legislatures like PA, MI, KY have Dem governors who will veto it.

I doubt SC does a full out ban.

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Jun 24, 2022, 8:34 PM
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Thanks, great answer. Kinda what I was looking for. I am still curious about how all this plays out thought.

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Re: Stiperfan....

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Jun 24, 2022, 8:34 PM
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I can tell you really hope it's an issue so your political party can gain ground.

Maybe you do make exceptions for rape, incest etc... Which btw I love your sensationalized example to drum up emotion to support your stance. ....

But people that support a right to choose I think uat aren't aware of what actually goes on and what a baby is .. I mean has you ever given it a thal thought, read stories of regret from a lot of those women. You take the common abortion situation of an unintended pregnancy from a consensual relationship... I'm not in support of that. No way, no how.

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Jun 24, 2022, 8:24 PM
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FWIW, I think the red blaze that was coming in November may have lost some momentum today.

Ultimately, I get the whole "decision should be with the states" thought; however, I don't agree necessarily with this decision being one of them.

IMO decisions like this should be between the folks that make them and God/the universe/whatever their beliefs.

One thing I do find odd is that....why this now? Does anyone know what actually prompted the Supreme Court to look into this?

I saw where the whole "we believe the powers back then were abusing their privilege" thing but I didn't actually see why this needed to be reviewed when I went searching for more on this.

Just seems odd.

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Jun 24, 2022, 8:32 PM
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Precautions will make this whole argument mute, but people are lazy. Prevention is the best cure.

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Jun 24, 2022, 9:13 PM
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Dobbs v Jackson Womens Clinic made it to the SCOTUS.

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2022/06/24/us/politics/supreme-court-dobbs-jackson-analysis-roe-wade.html


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Jun 24, 2022, 8:30 PM
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Most of the country was getting very tired of identity politics and the wokeism of democrats. I know a few moderate democrats leaning towards voting republican but this issue is going to mobilize democrats.

It would have been nice to send a message to the woke leftists in November…now I don’t know.

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identity politics are ripping America apart in my opinion...

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Jun 24, 2022, 8:39 PM
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while unscrupulous people bag the money from our noses.

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Jun 24, 2022, 8:38 PM
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dont worry we still have the 6 months of riots from 2020 and all your woke BS to run on a loop..

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Are you really that brain dead?


Jun 24, 2022, 8:40 PM
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Yeah, you are.

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Jun 24, 2022, 8:40 PM
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They'll get a short term bump but nothing that will move the needle in any significant way. You can gauge the success of how well they believe the JAN6 hearings are going judging by how the media focuses their attention. It could be telling. But like a previous poster stated most will vote with their pocketbook and that couldn't be more true than the present. Not to mention crime , the border etc. This issue will wash down to the 7th or worse most pressing issue

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Jun 24, 2022, 8:43 PM
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I applaud your tenacity and grit throwing a firecracker into a hornets nest. It’s pretty hateful and self righteous, living in this supposed free country, to think one person’s religious opinions give them the right to dictate what a woman and her doctor decide. Or just what the woman decides, no matter the many plausible reasons to get an abortion.

You won’t find many here who are self aware enough to know they are over stepping their boundaries.

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Exactly!

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Jun 24, 2022, 8:59 PM
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I could not have said it better myself.

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Jun 24, 2022, 9:20 PM
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Imagine being upset that it’s now illegal in half the country to murder a kid. I’d say there’s essentially nothing worse than hurting kids, and your upset about the lack of ability to do that.

And I’m pretty sure that in cases of rape of health of mother, it’ll still be allowed. Haven’t researched that part due to enjoying the liberals telling us their newest reason to riot.

Hopefully when we wake up tomorrow, half of Chicago and New York will of been destroyed. Nothing like peeing in your own bed

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Jun 24, 2022, 9:35 PM
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PBT, it seems perhaps you are more concerned with winning elections based on economic conditions and are thinking todays ruling jeopardizes that. Such a pity these little babies get in the way of your 401k, gas price, etc.. SCOTUS needs to retract the vote so abortionists can continue to count body parts to keep people like you happy. What a nerve they have.

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Jun 24, 2022, 9:39 PM
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Yeah, don’t say you care about our children's lives when you support the murder of thousands upon thousands of babies a year. That may hurt your feelings, BUT the truth hurts. I’m not trying to assume or accuse, but I surely hope you didn’t vote your feelings and not your future this past election. If you did, I surely hope you don’t complain about the price of gas because you should reap what you sow.

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Jun 24, 2022, 10:15 PM
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I am for State's Rights, in every situation.

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Jun 24, 2022, 11:01 PM
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The Republicans have instantly made the mid-terms interesting all of a sudden. If they squeak it out, brilliant. If not, oh boy.

Just wondering if Republicans have bitten off the nose to spite the face here?

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Desantis 2024,keep Libtards crying ??

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Jun 25, 2022, 3:33 AM
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that'll show the libtards.

The USA is quickly becoming the least "free' of the developed free world.

Interesting for sure.

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I’m not sure it will make much of a difference.

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Jun 24, 2022, 11:25 PM
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Economy seems to always trump social issues when it comes to elections. If we are dealing with inflation and are in or close to a recession, that’s what people will care about - not abortion laws.

Besides, once the smoke clears a lot of the overly dramatic claims that women can’t get abortions now will have quieted down.

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Jun 24, 2022, 11:48 PM
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Hmmmmmm……..of the women I know, the one thing they enjoy the very most in the world, is a man telling them what to do.

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about 25+ states will ban/severely limit abortion


Jun 25, 2022, 3:38 AM
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A right that Americans have had for 50 years despite the newly appointed judges saying they would not do that.

And you think this smoke will clear in a few days?

My point was the economy almost guaranteed a huge victory for the Republicans in the midterms but I think this is a game-changer.

I could be wrong.

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Jun 25, 2022, 8:52 AM
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The simple story: So the Supreme Court Justices are nominated by Presidents, confirmed by the Senate and then appointed to serve for as long as they choose. Their job is to review and uphold CONSTITUTIONAL issues as it pertains to law.

So here comes Dodd v Jackson, MS Women's Health Clinic because the Mississippi Legislature voted to place restrictions on abortions. It made it through the courts to SCOTUS.

You and others think and speak as of it was Republicans but it was the Supreme Court, nine people appointed by Presidents and approved by the Senate. In the case of Dodd v Jackson ... the SCOTUS voted 6 - 3 (appointed by Republican and Democratic presidents) that the state has the right to make the decision when it comes to abortion, not the Federal Gov't. Once that was out of the way, it was like why is there Roe v Wade in existence since States have control over abortion and there is NO Constitutional basis for abortions. The SCOTUS voted and the decision to overturn Roe v Wade was approved 5 - 4.

It's the State Elections that citizens need to concentrate on. Pro-Life and Pro-Choice decisions will be made at the State level because I don't believe in my lifetime there will be enough majority of any party to make abortion a Federal Law through Congress.

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Jun 25, 2022, 8:56 AM
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Do not be fooled by the MSM and social media who want you to think 99% of people are protesting on the streets.

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