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TigerNet Eternal Icon [186528]
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If we are urged to buy American, why can't we buy
Mar 12, 2022, 11:03 AM
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American gas/oil? Just curious.
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Re: If we are urged to buy American, why can't we buy
Mar 12, 2022, 11:07 AM
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Absolutely
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Re: If we are urged to buy American, why can't we buy
Mar 12, 2022, 11:07 AM
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You will have to ask Pres. numb nuts that.
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Re: If we are urged to buy American, why can't we buy
Mar 12, 2022, 11:46 AM
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Didn't you know that a barrel of oil from Iran or Venezuela doesn't have the nasty carbon footprint like a barrel of oil from the US? Actually it has a larger footprint due to the transportation cost. For Iran, you also are funding the Islamic Revolutionary Guard which promotes terrorism around the globe. Truth is, the current administration ran on the platform of "green" which demonizes domestic oil producers. Over 20 court cases are ongoing that involve lawsuits against domestic oil companies for climate change or sea level change. These are being filed at the state level. So the government is suing the oil companies but suddenly would like them to produce more oil and gasoline? Huh? Nobody in the green party actually did the calculations of how long it might take for everyone to switch to the green alternatives and there was no interim plan. We are the largest oil producer in the world by far so we are lucky. When you have the same green goals, no plan on how to get there, and few resources, then you become like western Europe. Not to get political, but it makes the administration look like hypocrites when some campaigned to eliminate big oil and then do a total 180.
Moot point really, the labor, infrastructure, raw materials, etc. are not in place to significantly change domestic output in the short term so the high prices will be in place for a while - the futures contracts have already been purchased for multiple months out at elevated prices. Better beef up the math of green in a hurry.
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Re: If we are urged to buy American, why can't we buy
Mar 12, 2022, 11:08 AM
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John Kerry controls that decision.
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It's a Globalist Bankstas' plot...
Mar 12, 2022, 11:51 AM
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Re: If we are urged to buy American, why can't we buy
Mar 12, 2022, 11:11 AM
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Please post data proving we don’t.
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Re: If we are urged to buy American, why can't we buy
Mar 12, 2022, 11:16 AM
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Well if we just quit importing Russian oil that would mean we were buying Russian oil. Go ahead and provide proof that you are pumping US fuel into your tank. Not the smartest economists in the world but if it was US oil why would the price increase? This is why I can’t argue with folks. Pointless.
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Re: If we are urged to buy American, why can't we buy
Mar 12, 2022, 11:37 AM
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Atta boy….guess you told his dumb a*s
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Re: Bought gas this morning at $4.01/gal. If we were producing
Mar 12, 2022, 11:34 AM
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Because global supply and demand affect the price per barrel, not just US supply and demand.
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Re: Bought gas this morning at $4.01/gal. If we were producing
Mar 12, 2022, 11:37 AM
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completely understand supply and demand. I wish that we can live in peace and work together as one world and help all. I know that is not going to happen. It's sad.
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Re: yes it price gouging. we only imported 3.2% of our oil
Mar 12, 2022, 11:40 AM
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SMH at gouging. At least the price went down $.08 at the store near my house. Will not see sub $3.00/gal. anytime soon.
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Re: If we are urged to buy American, why can't we buy
Mar 12, 2022, 11:12 AM
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Well I have a multitude of reasons but for the love of my fellow Tigers I will keep those to myself. Everyone has there thoughts but it is a valid question.
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Re: If we are urged to buy American, why can't we buy
Mar 12, 2022, 11:18 AM
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I'm not worried. I'm going to convert our car to electric. But I'm going to do it the smart way. I'm attaching a windmill to the roof. Even if the wind isn't blowing, the momentum of the car will turn the turbine.
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TigerNet Eternal Icon [186528]
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^^^has the smarts!!
Mar 12, 2022, 11:30 AM
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Because Progrestards Don't Understand Science
Mar 12, 2022, 11:19 AM
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Moving fossil fuel extraction from one continent to the next does not reduce carbon emissions or impact the environment differently from one choice to the other. This is what you get for electing bartenders Congresswomen and whoarz as VP.
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Re: Because Progrestards Don't Understand Science
Mar 12, 2022, 11:27 AM
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Yea that’s what I never understood about the green people. If it’s a global issue why is it ok for China to now be making most of what we used to here in the US.
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Re: Because Progrestards Don't Understand Science
Mar 12, 2022, 12:16 PM
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The left’s goal is to destroy the United States. There are many useful idiots ready to take up the cause. Some for idealistic reasons but the politicians are in it for the grift. Does it make sense now?
The Earth has gone through large temperature swings throughout its history. But this time we can “save” the planet if we just give the leftists all the power and all the money. Easy peasy.
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Re: Because Progrestards Don't Understand Science
Mar 12, 2022, 1:05 PM
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You are not to informed on the swings of temperature. those were happening over huge moments in time and now it is happening in a century. If you went back in time 60 million years you wouldn't be even able to breath because the oxygen content was different at that time. Just look at C)2 levels over history and see how much that has changed since the beginning of the industrial revolution.
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oxygen levels were higher 60 million years ago
Mar 13, 2022, 6:26 PM
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you would be able to breathe just fine
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Re: Because Progrestards Don't Understand Science
Mar 12, 2022, 1:27 PM
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It's called corporate greed, left and right. People like you have to hate on green and left even if makes no sense. The reason so much is made in China is short term profits of corporations. Even if it puts us at risks health wise, drugs or masks, and economic security, chips.
Tell us about all the manufacturers who built new plants in America under Trump (how about 0)? Maybe the left will announce a new chip plant to be built in America.
How about all the money tax breaks given to the top 1%. The rich gave me some of their windfall profits. How about you? This didn't increase our national debt did it? Sure helped inflation.
Some people don't understand greed, politics or economics.
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Microchip plants under Trump…
Mar 12, 2022, 9:15 PM
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Other than the last 6 months of his Presidency, why would anyone invest billions in a factory where there is no demand issue?
Intel and Samsung have since come out and said they are both building plants worth tens of billions. Do you have any idea how long it takes to get all the put in place before an announcement? Hint, it’s not 6 months.
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Don't know about all of that but...
Mar 12, 2022, 1:05 PM
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All you right wing, cult followers have this to look forward to. Are you racist, or do you just not like women?
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You do.
Mar 12, 2022, 11:26 AM
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About two-thirds of our oil and gas here in the US is produced from domestic sources. And, the top 3 imports are from Canada, Mexico, and Saudi Arabia.
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Re: You do.
Mar 12, 2022, 11:34 AM
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Well why is Biden blaming Putin for our higher prices? If we were importing from Canada or Mexico why the increase. Neither of those are involved in the conflict. Why was it mentioned that after we quit importing Russian oil we were in talks with the Saudi’s and Venezuelan on getting their oil and Canada was not even mentioned. If what you claim is true our prices should not have changed.
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Re: You do.
Mar 12, 2022, 11:38 AM
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Because global supply and demand affect the price per barrel, not just US supply and demand. And Russia’s invasion of Ukraine, coupled with economic sanctions from all over the world, are driving up that per-barrel price.
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Re: You do.
Mar 12, 2022, 11:42 AM
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And the oil companies are getting record profits off the war. They are gouging or #### to death
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Re: You do.
Mar 12, 2022, 11:51 AM
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Yeah, there is big money to be had right now. But oil prices were going up before the war started.
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Re: You do.
Mar 12, 2022, 1:08 PM
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And big oil profits were way up before then also.
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Not so fast
Mar 12, 2022, 12:06 PM
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And the oil companies are getting record profits off the war. They are gouging or #### to death
Uh, I own a significant amount of stock in domestic oil companies. Yes, most are making good money at these elevated prices but over the past five years I am just over break even on a basket of maybe 8 different domestic companies (that' called dead money is the equity trade business) The Covid crash bankrupted many domestic producers and banks or private equity will not invest in oil companies. If you think they are gouging you then go buy some Exxon, Chevron, or BP stock. You will lose your rear end. Their profit margins pale in comparison BTW to a company like Apple. Don't hear anyone complaining about paying $800 for a phone that costs $20 to produce. It's supply and demand and yea, domestic oil is trying to fix their balance sheets (which are in many cases a total mess) so that they can transition to a different future that has a balance of oil and renewable products. It takes money to make this happen.
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LOL record profits….
Mar 13, 2022, 8:30 AM
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If their profit margin is the same, record high prices would lead to record high profits.
I’m guessing the company you work for would benefit the same.
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I usually get Venezuelan because
Mar 13, 2022, 11:38 AM
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it’s the closest station and a few pennies less.
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Re: If we are urged to buy American, why can't we buy
Mar 12, 2022, 11:43 AM
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Easy, we don't produce enough and good luck finding products "Made in the USA" to buy. Sad.
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Re: If we are urged to buy American, why can't we buy
Mar 12, 2022, 11:56 AM
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Because it hurts our planet if America drills, you didn’t know everywhere else is on a separate planet so it’s ok for them to drill and pollute?? The only place it’s bad for the environment is in America ????????
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Re: If we are urged to buy American, why can't we buy
Mar 12, 2022, 12:09 PM
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Have you attempted to buy anything made in America lately?
Everything-wait close to everything is made overseas-
Made in America- used to mean something-
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Re: If we are urged to buy American, why can't we buy
Mar 12, 2022, 1:13 PM
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I buy as much American-Made products possible. What about you? Not sure where you are from, having much luck?
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Re: If we are urged to buy American, why can't we buy
Mar 12, 2022, 9:55 PM
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oh boy, somebody explain free markets to this kid. I think what you meant to say is why can't we nationalize our oil companies so we can legally tell them who to sell for and at what price.
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Why somebody else? Explain it to me.***
Mar 13, 2022, 12:32 AM
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Re: Why somebody else? Explain it to me.***
Mar 13, 2022, 8:40 AM
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they are private companies, they can do whatever they like with their products, which means selling to the highest bidder to keep their shareholders happy.
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because it creates global warming***
Mar 13, 2022, 6:21 AM
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It is harder for them to get kickbacks from American oil operations.***
Mar 13, 2022, 9:15 AM
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