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Haven't had much to say here for a while...

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Jul 31, 2021, 12:53 PM
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I love tnet and our Clemson University Tigers.
I have no interest in fighting or arguing.

The ONLY people we are admitting to our ICU are unvaccinated. The unvaccinated people we are admitting ARE NOT elderly, obese, and with loads of comorbidities like diabetes, hypertension, etc..

I mean, we get those folks too, but on Wed i moved a healthy 32yo 6'1" 190lb athletic man to from the med surg floor to the ICU. He swabbed pos a week earlier, home with fevers for a week, came in bc he was monitoring his o2 levels and they hit the upper 80s.
At 230p he was in 4L nasal cannula, very little oxygen. At 6p he was high flow nasal cannula 60L (max) and 90% o2.. coming in to ICU to be placed on bipap, then intubated.
That's FAST.

And that speed is the new norm.
Covid pts in our ICU in the winter would linger and almost ALL die. Again, these are the ICU covid pts. Now he see people getting intubated and dying in 8-10 days.

Vaccinated people, including friends and coworkers, have swabbed pos. Their infection and reaction is like a bad flu at worse.

The vax is not FDA approved, but neither is COVID. Is it worth dying for?

Just giving you the real OF WHAT WE SEE IN OUR 300 bed Sacramento hospital.
I know we are all sick of it.
I'm vexed and live my life. I'm not into fear and hyperbole. I am into the reality of what I see and experience daily at work.
Not vaxed, please reconsider
Have questions that I can try to answer, I'll happily have a DISCUSSION.

Looking forward to the season!!
Y'all be well out there ??

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Jul 31, 2021, 1:09 PM
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Thanks Soywaker. Good to hear from you. This delta variant ain't no joke. Went to get meds earlier and was pleased to see a young African American getting his first shot. Just baffles me when you see just the atheletes on Clemson teams that's battled it.

Heard the UK is still seeing surges but fortunately not as many deaths because 71% are fully vaxed. Idk, personally, I'm getting real tired of having to wear my n95 and not going to places I'd like too. All you can do is put the FACTs out. Thanks again.

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I got the Johnson & Johnson one shot deal

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Jul 31, 2021, 1:10 PM
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after discussing with my primary care physician
since I have an autoimmune disease (RA) and an
already compromised immune system and she thought
it would be my best option since patients she sees
have had less side effects and problems with the
J&J shot. Do you have an opinion or any data as
to it's effectiveness and issues versus the 2 shot
Maderna or Pfizer vaccinations?

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Can only speak anecdotally

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Jul 31, 2021, 1:41 PM
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One friend had JnJ and got COVID. Had low fever and flu like symptoms.

Another coworker has Pfizer and had no symptoms but swabbed due to exposure incident at work and was pos.

We don't have people in the hospital who are vaccinated, that's real, so I can only ASSUME that while the vax is clearly not full proof, it is preventing hospitalization and death.

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Jul 31, 2021, 10:51 PM
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Thanks for your information, I appreciate it.

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10 quick TU’s…. But already 1 TD from

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Jul 31, 2021, 1:17 PM
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a non- believer- if they won’t take your word as fact I don’t know why they would believe anyone about anything

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It's unfortunate. It's also the reason I stopped coming to tnet.

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Jul 31, 2021, 5:02 PM
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What we experienced here was dehumanizing and brutal. Many of us are still climbing out of the darkness of the past 15 months, but really July 20 through Feb 21..
To read the denials or people with no understanding or firsthand experience espousing lies and just nonsense, well, I no longer had the emotional fortitude to deal with it. It was hard enough just getting up.

I don't need ANY news agency, politician, or Facebook yahoo to tell me the reality of what this is and has been in my hospital.
Doesn't mean it applies across the board, but sure sounds like it when I speak to my friends in other hospitals and in other parts of the country.

I hope everyone is safe and finds some peace and understanding.

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Jul 31, 2021, 1:21 PM
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Thank you. I don’t like to argue with fellow Clemson fans either…but some on here are just beyond ignorant and continue to spread misinformation. Appreciate you providing some much needed clarity/perspective.

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Jul 31, 2021, 1:25 PM
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Re: Thank you for all that you do!***

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Jul 31, 2021, 1:59 PM
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As you as well JK.

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Jul 31, 2021, 1:57 PM
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Same story here at Beaufort Memorial. Almost all are unvaxed. Putting young people in their 20's on vents. This bites.

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I Just Don't Get The Reason People Won't Vaccinate I Know It

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Jul 31, 2021, 2:12 PM
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is not fully FDA approved etc. but is there a real piece of info out there saying that the future unknown side effects are worse than death that I haven't seen? Or is this just folks really sticking to principles of not vaccinating?

No judgement just want to truly understand the case for not getting vaccine.

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It's the inability to properly understand and process

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Jul 31, 2021, 4:24 PM
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information. Here's a conversation (paraphrased) I had with a co-worker this week:

CW: No way I'm getting that vaccine.
Me: Why?
CW: It's dangerous.
Me: How so?
CW: A friend of mine got his first shot a while back. 2 weeks later he had a heart attack.
Me: You think the vaccine caused it?
CW: He got a letter from the hospital 2 months later with a bill for $88,000.00. Said he didn't owe anything though because of covid.
Me: What? That makes no sense. What does that even mean?
CW: Because he got the vaccine 2 weeks before. They more or less said that caused it.
Me: What? There has to be more to it.
CW: No way I'm getting it. Besides, it hasn't been FDA approved.
Me: Full FDA approval normally takes years. We didn't have years. Enough clinical trials were done to determine it's relative safety, plus, look at how effective and safe it's been after millions have been vaccinated woldwide.
CW: I'm not doing it. People are dying and getting sick from it everywhere. My friend is proof.

This is common. This is why people don't get the vaccine.

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Re: It's the inability to properly understand and process


Aug 1, 2021, 8:45 PM
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information. Here's a conversation (paraphrased) I had with a co-worker this week:

CW: No way I'm getting that vaccine.
Me: Why?
CW: It's dangerous.
Me: How so?
CW: A friend of mine got his first shot a while back. 2 weeks later he had a heart attack.
Me: You think the vaccine caused it?
CW: He got a letter from the hospital 2 months later with a bill for $88,000.00. Said he didn't owe anything though because of covid.
Me: What? That makes no sense. What does that even mean?
CW: Because he got the vaccine 2 weeks before. They more or less said that caused it.
Me: What? There has to be more to it.
CW: No way I'm getting it. Besides, it hasn't been FDA approved.
Me: Full FDA approval normally takes years. We didn't have years. Enough clinical trials were done to determine it's relative safety, plus, look at how effective and safe it's been after millions have been vaccinated woldwide.
CW: I'm not doing it. People are dying and getting sick from it everywhere. My friend is proof.

This is common. This is why people don't get the vaccine.



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Wow. That ONE whole person you talked to


Aug 1, 2021, 8:46 PM
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explained why millions of people don’t want the shot?

That’s amazing.

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Jul 31, 2021, 2:25 PM
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Thank you for all that you do. My sister is a nurse and you guys and gals have all my respect. True heroes!

You mentioned the vaccinated have nothing more than flu like symptoms. The majority of the people that I personally know that got the virus and were not vaccinated had the same results with just flu like symptoms. This is what I have seen.

There is no doubt the virus is real and can cause some people serious harm. As does opioid addiction, alchohol abuse, obesity, depression, ect... But to paint covid as people falling over dead in the streets like the media did initially is fear mongering.

The government's overreach is way too far currently.

Remember 14 days to slow the spread?
Then wear a mask.
Then mask dont work.
Then no mask if vaccinated.
Then mask and vaccine.
Now shut down everything again.

All this for what?

Its crazy that 300k people die every year of obesity but you dont see government shutting down McDonald's, making workout mandates, and giving tips for not becoming obese. And im supposed to think the government and politicians want whats best for the people?

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Is there a vaccine for obesity?

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Jul 31, 2021, 2:30 PM
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If there is, I am all for it and if someone doesn't want it, they can choose to be fat and possibly be among the 300,000.

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Before The Govt. Addresses Obesity They Should Address

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Jul 31, 2021, 2:31 PM
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Being a Coot. Suicide and alcohol-related death rates for Coots are over 150x higher amongst Coots than other fanbases.

You don't see the Govt. banning Boom Busses and Bronze #### statues.

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Jul 31, 2021, 2:36 PM
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Agreed but we don't need government to help solve coot issues. They can just stop playing football and it would solve their issues.

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RE: Obesity ... here's the difference

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Jul 31, 2021, 3:42 PM
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People who are fat because they eat too much and make poor lifestyle choices are still making informed choices - it's a tradeoff. They get a certain level of pleasure or satisfaction from living that lifestye, and knowing it is unhealthy and likely shortening their lives, the choose to keep doing it instead of living longer. Same with smoking. They decide that they's rather enjoy things that are bad for them and die a few years ealy. However, when people refuse the covid vaccine, it's totally different, because there is no benefit at all, zero upside. There is no tradeoff - it's simply an idiotic decision based on bad information. They think that by refusing the vaccine, they are increasing their chances of living, and living longer and healthier, because they believe the vaccine is more dangerous than covid, which is demonstrably false. No benefit, no upside, no years of enjoyment of junk food or tobacco or some other vice; just risking your stupid life to show 'em you won't be pushed around.

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Jul 31, 2021, 5:28 PM
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Powerful post I mostly agree with.

I am fat because I like beer and eat too much good food.
I have set some over 70 age group course records in 5Ks, but too fat right now.
Gaining "happy fat" is my choice and "maybe" I will do better some day?
Being fat is my choice, not due to bad info.

I was first in line for the Kung Flu shots.

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Aug 2, 2021, 4:26 PM
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At least fat people don't go out in public and make other people fat.

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Have you ever been to Golden Corral? You can catch the fats


Aug 2, 2021, 4:51 PM
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if you get too close.

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Aug 2, 2021, 5:06 PM
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It can happen. It takes time and money but it can be done!

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Jul 31, 2021, 9:04 PM
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I disagree. I think there is great upside to not taking the vaccine. All the heart issues people are having doesn't make this rushed treatment anymore enticing.

Speaking of upside and no risk. The people that made these vaccines cant be sued.

"No benefit, no upside, no years of enjoyment of junk food or tobacco or some other vice; just risking your stupid life to show 'em you won't be pushed around"

Do you enjoy getting pushed around? Because they are pushing you around bud lol

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Jul 31, 2021, 9:47 PM
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I'm not getting pushed around. I made a free, fully informed decision after consulting with all of my doctors. The percentage of people having serious heart issues from the vaccine is extremely small.

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Aug 1, 2021, 12:35 PM
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I also, made the best decision for myself after looking at all the info and speaking with doctors. So we both did what is best for us and there is nothing wrong with that. Wish you the best and GO TIGERS!

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If you have a doctor that is familiar with your conditions


Aug 1, 2021, 8:14 PM
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and your history, and he/she advised you not to get the vaccine, then yes, you made the best decision for yourself. And good luck to you as well.

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Aug 1, 2021, 2:28 PM
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Find a doctor that isn’t vaccinated. You won’t. There’s a reason, because the benefit strongly outweighs the potential risk.

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True that most people had only flu like symptons... but thats before the variants

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Jul 31, 2021, 6:18 PM
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I AM assuming its variants to be fair.


While saying last winter most people just exp flu like symptoms so I'll take my chance maybe made a little sense from a PERSONAL perspective only, it doesn't now.
Now people vaxed are having those symptoms, and those not vaxed are coming in VERY sick, young, otherwise healthy, and still being intubated or requiring lesser hospital care.

Now to be fair, I can't tell you what the percent of unvaxed that are infected and are admitted is. I just know we don't admit people who are vaccinated.

Above I said a PERSONAL PERSPECTIVE. Most epidemiologist and Infectious Disease docs warned that if we didn't hit 70-80% vax, we would see mutations, like we do annually with the flu at a quicker pace than if we all went thr utilitarian approach and got vax for others sakes as well.
We didn't.
And now as those predictions based in the little science we do understand have come to fruition, rather than people heeding the warnings, it's spun into some bizarre political convo.

Why did we stop listening to the experienced professionals who are experts in their fields? CNN nor FOX knows anything.

As far as govt overreach... well, I don't really see the merits of discussing that here. Nobody got it all right, nobody got it all wrong.

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Re: True that most people had only flu like symptons... but thats before the variants

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Yea I agree with you about CNN and Fox. Mainstream media has lost every ounce of credibility they had.

soywaker, thank you for your work my friend. We certainly can get along even if we disagree on things. Wishing you the best, stay well.

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Full disclosure I am fully vaccinated. I have friends young couple that work in healthcare that refuse vaccination. They say no evidence of vaccine affect on their planned as yet unborn family. If true I cannot argue with them. I remember Thalidomide..they dont want to risk it.. Also is it just me or does there seem to be a lot of people in healthcare that are refusing the vax??

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Aug 1, 2021, 10:09 PM
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There are plenty of healthcare workers that aren’t vaxxed. They are mostly janitorial staff and young nurses that spend too much time on Facebook reading ridiculous conspiracy theories. Ask any doctor or upper administration and they are all fully vaxxed.

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Aug 2, 2021, 2:37 PM
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You can't transmit obesity from one person to the next, though. That's not a great analogy. Not to say I don't support measures to combat obesity.

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Jul 31, 2021, 2:26 PM
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Explain what it would take to get FDA approved? What does that entail?

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Outside of anything I know. Good question...

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Jul 31, 2021, 10:51 PM
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Sorry I can't help here ??

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Typically the drug development process takes about 10 years. That includes, discovery, multiple preclinical studies followed by increasing larger human studies. However there are ways to fast track the process depending on the disease.

The studies and trials conducted to evaluate the vaccines were under the same scrutiny and rigor as others, they just got bumped to the front.

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Aug 2, 2021, 4:40 PM
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The basic premise for the mRNA vaccines has been used for a few years, and this virus was used instead of SARS or others. This is not new technology.

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It is extremely telling that the FDA still has not approved it.


Aug 1, 2021, 8:52 PM
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Imagine how much pressure they are under from the White House, and they STILL won’t do it.

Not sure how people can ignore that.

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Aug 1, 2021, 10:16 PM
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My wife works in clinical trials, expectations is that it will be fully approved by end of Q3.

Imagine how people can ignore all of the other scientific data that supports the vaccinations and you’ll find your answer.

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But, that is just the Pfizer vaccination, if I am not


Aug 2, 2021, 3:41 PM
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mistaken.

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My wife works in clinical trials, expectations is that it will be fully approved by end of Q3.

Imagine how people can ignore all of the other scientific data that supports the vaccinations and you’ll find your answer.

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Jul 31, 2021, 2:31 PM
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Good to see you, soy! I had just begun to feel safe enough to do normal life when this variant screwed that up for all of us. Stay safe, and Tiger on!!!

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Thank you for all you do and stay safe!!***

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I appreciate the info and all that you do, soywaker.

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Jul 31, 2021, 5:15 PM
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Thanks soywaker® for your first hand account.
I have had many jobs in my life, most were crap.

I was positive two places my tender a$$ I could never work was in a hospital or a prison. I could never be in that environment all day. I admire you greatly, and am so glad folks like you exist.

Thanks again !

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And I could never sit behind a desk or do research in a lab!

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Your post made me laugh, I appreciate that ??
It takes us all to do what we do best. Good thing we aren't all alike right?

Thanks for the smile, be well!

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they were announcing our MOS (MILITARY OCCUPATIONAL SPECIALTY for those not in the know) the one I didn't want was combat medic. If they assigned me to be responsible for saving lives under stress, I was ready to extend my 2 years of drafted time to 4 years in a flash to sign up for any other job. I got Infantry instead and accepted that with a sigh of relief.

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Jul 31, 2021, 5:18 PM
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When will the test for the delta variant be available?

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of the things the pulmonologists/intensivists have given me..

At our hospital, and perhaps Sacramento County (remember, all states and even counties are doing their own things), if you are vax and swab positive, then the seab is automatically sent for variant testing.

The rest of the swabs from unvax are sample statistics and then extrapolating from that data.

The results are not reported back to us. It doesn't change our mostly ineffective treatment anyhow.

What I can tell you is most of my coworkers and I agree that when we see these rapidly progressing cases, it's so different from the presentation we saw for the first 15 months or so, that we all just assume it must be the variant.

But that is 100% conjecture and not really worth much... But then again, medicine is trends.

As far as availability to public, no clue.

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Thanks for the info soy

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Prayers for you and those you work with too.

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I appreciate you trying....

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Thanks for all you do to help the sick.

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First….Thank you for your work in helping these sick people

BUT…i have a hard time taking statements like this seriously. This is exactly the way the media writes things.
Quote. “The unvaccinated people we are admitting ARE NOT elderly, obese, and with loads of comorbidities like diabetes, hypertension, etc..

I mean, we get those folks too, but on Wed i moved a healthy 32yo 6'1" 190lb athletic man to from the med surg floor to the ICU.” End Quote.

You say in ALL CAPS you aren’t admitting elderly sick obese diabetic etc patients, but then in the very next sentence admit you are indeed admitting those patients. But then go on to tell the story of a healthy 32 yr old male who has had a extremely rough go at it.

While I appreciate your firsthand knowledge of this situation I am annoyed with your veiled attempt at fear mongering by over stating the facts here.

Yes healthy people are getting seriously sick. BUT it’s NOT the majority. In fact it’s a very small percentage. This is the exact reason people are hesitant to get the vaccine because everything they hear has been spun or twisted out of context. EXACTLY like your post. I GUARANTEE IF I VISITED YOUR ICU it would not be filled with 32 yr old perfectly healthy people. Yes there may be one or two or three but out of the 300 beds. That’s %1 or less.


We will never get past this if misinformation and overstated out of context facts continue to be spread from both sides of this argument.

Again thank you for what you do. No doubt in my mind your care has helped save countless lives. God bless.

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Jul 31, 2021, 7:30 PM
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Never been.

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Jul 31, 2021, 7:42 PM
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I’m simply stating that the majority of hospitalizations are not from healthy people and the OP tries to paint a different picture. I’m not disputing his story. I’m not calling him a liar. But I highly doubt in his ICU. The majority of covid hospitalizations are young healthy men and women with zero pre existing conditions. It’s just not true. And to blur the lines to make people think otherwise is unethical, wrong , and a big contributor to people’s skepticism.

In fact, @Soywaker what would you say the percent of hospitalizations in your ICU of 300 beds are of people like this athletic young man with zero preexisting conditions or other health issues? Honestly I am curious.

And please, I am not here trying to disrespect you. I do admire your work and your courage to go into an infectious environment everyday to help people.


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Jul 31, 2021, 7:45 PM
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Soy is a dude, not a her. And a good dude at that.

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My apologies. I never said he was a bad dude.

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example of the speed with which it came down on an otherwise healthy but unvaccinated guy... note the "we get those folks too".

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I caught that. But again. Why post that story here? Why come to a Clemson Athletics message board and post that? Why that guys story. Why not any of the other elderly or diabetic peoples story?

My gripe is the narrative, the biased context, the subtle jab at the “anti vaxers”. That’s my issue.

And to his credit I know just from this and other posts he’s a passionate healthcare worker who cares. And that’s where the bias comes from. I’m not here to attack anyone. I’m not that guy. I’m just as tired of this thing as the next guy. That’s it. Have the last word if you want.

And to Soy. Again thank you and I apologize for thinking you were a female. Your more a man than me walking into the war zone every day.

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What he's experiencing....and you hijacked the thread by being a jerk. He's not the media, so he gains nothing via sensationalism.

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Hey I’ve been meaning to tell you I really like your handle pic. Just hadn’t had the chance.

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here is my not so subtle jab...>> anti-vaxxers are a bunch of #### idiots who will never admit that they are wrong. They are going to lead us right back into the doldrums. They have blood on their hands, no two ways about it. Why cant they make just one #### sacrifice for their fellow americans, put on their big boy pants, take off their tin foil hats , and get the #### vaccine? Because they are stubborn idiots, that is why. And now it turns out, Fauci was right all along. I guess we can thank them for proving him right.

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Neat

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I have my opinions just like everyone

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I do think it's in the best interest for most to be vaxed, so that may come out "subtlety" in my verbage...
But I assure you, no jab at all.

And yes, most of YOUR post I agree with without all the negative name calling or creating the need to assign right and wrong. Shouldn't we all be listening and questioning, evolving and changing... myself included.

I question the need for a booster. All these med companies saying, um yes world governments, buy a new round of shots for our bottom line. I wonder. It's good to question.

It's reasonable for people to have fear and hesitation about the vax and not be ridiculed for it.

It's also alright for me to put out a frontline account from one 300 bed hospital across the country from Them Hills and it be just that. If my reality and experience offend you, shouldn't you ask yourself why?

If one thinks I'm fear mongering by telling what the trend has been and now is IN MY HOSPITAL, perhaps the question should be what's scary about my post?

I'm not an instigator. I'm just a #### good nurse trying to love my brothers and sisters. If the post helps one person, great.
If it just is informative, fine.

Be well friend.

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I guess they posted their REAL WORLD experiences because we have idiots in our society who don't think the virus is real. They also wanted us to know that even younger, healthier people can still get a severe case, and this is happening more and more. Their experiences are completely consistent with what the CDC is happening nationwide.

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One day.

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what he experienced and then saying you aren’t calling him a liar? That’s exactly the reason he says he has been hesitant to post here/ he has no reason to exaggerate or give you false information. You are right in doubting news coverage due to changing and conflicting information but please believe the frontline workers when they give reports about what they see / tell me what Soy has to gain by misleading you.


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I believe his story. But his shared experience came with a catch. He ends his post with “not vaccinated, please consider”

He shared his story here on a sports message board to push vaccination. Plain and simple. I just don’t think it’s an appropriate place for that.

If I was a health care worker I would want to push vaccines to. After all they have to be around and in close proximity to the virus for 12 hrs a day. (Sometimes longer). The faster this thing is over the safer they are.

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his job in the ICU to be easier with no Covid cases. Or maybe he genuinely wants everyone to be protected from the most serious symptoms of this disease. I am going with the latter.

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I agree.

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Do you mind the post before mine that inspired it?

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That the way things were going in NC with mask mandates etc, the attendance for Clemson and UGA would be closer to 0 than 70k?

Bc that's what sparked it for me
Wanna be able to go? I do.
There's a path to get there.
We don't have good treatments.
We do have vaccinations.

And I said Go Tigers right ????

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A woman who is like an Aunt to me (my parents’ best friends) has had the vaccine and is now hospitalized with extreme flu-like symptoms. The hospital said she has the variant. She got the vaccine months ago, and it hasn’t seemed to help her so far. I’m not trying to bash you or say you are wrong, this is just a personal thing I found out this morning.

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I am curious...
Would you be in the know of whether she has any other major immunocompromising diagnosis?
Cancer, chemo, bad COPD or asthma that requires chronic steroid use (anti-inflammatory, BUT vastly decreases the immune response)?

Hoping for a positive outcome for you and yours




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so my apologies if my take is off base. But it sounds to me like he’s saying this delta variant is hitting young, healthy unvaccinated people a lot harder than pre-delta Covid did.

Appreciate his first hand observations! It’s hard to get any real unfiltered info on this these days.


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In transparency, I DONT KNOW 100% certainty it is Delta. It's not reported back.

I just know that here, something like 90% are reported to be. And that the patient demographic and history is not what it was the last 15 months..

And it's fast progressing and not discrimination to only the old and sick, obese the way "regular" covid did.

Good call, thanks.

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Made my phone reload the page and lost it...
I'll come back to ya shortly and edit this post with the response..

Appreciate the love from y'all, thank you
And RJC, I promise you, there is no veiled anything here.

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Quite frankly, I think I'm an honest guy, but sure, I may unintentionally misrepresent or present an idea in your mind that I didn't intend.

So let me be as particular as it seems you are.

-My hospital is probably not 300 beds, it's probably about 230 - 260.

-Not every patient has covid, right now, most don't. Right now, most are heart attacks and other things resulting from deferred care as understandably people did not want to go to medical facilities. My guy today is 39, on vent, 5 vasopressors, lots of blood transfusions, and probably going to die... from necrotizing fascitits run rampant. He's 350lbs, diabetic, poor self care.

-All 250 beds are not the ICU. Our ICU is 30 beds. At peak of COVID, we went into another area of the hospital. Our peak was Nov-Feb.. 45 vented COVID patients. It was horrific. We had 255 COVID deaths in one year. That is astronomical for a 30 bed icu. Yes, people had comorbidities, just like when someone dies of the flu. The chronic illness doesn't help, but ultimately it's the ARDS that's resultant from the COVID that killed these patients.
Now we have 7-9 icu covids.
In the beginning, the "first wave" when we were in lock down NEVER came.
It started after the 4th if July 2020, and ramped up every month to the #### we experienced.

Now allow me to add ONE word and see if you still have the same feeling about my post: JUST.

How's this for you?
"The unvaccinated people we are getting ARE NOT JUST elderly....."
Better?

And I would love to bring you in to our ICU. Of course the young and healthy aren't the majority, the point is that they were not the pts we saw before, so to see 5 out of 50 is alarming.

If I wanted to go fear mongering, I'd say
Hey tigernet, dont worry about getting vaccinated as long as you are under 35, don't smoke, arent overweight, have high BP, or diabetes.

I have no interest in fear or hyperbole.
This is just my real in my hospital in my town.

I live my life. Spent 4 days this week camping on the Russian River in Sonoma, saw music on the coast, have ACCCG tix, have flown a dozen times in the last 8 months, have a slew of concert tix for the fall... But, I try to stay outdoors.for these events, I wear a mask inside with infrequent and illogical exceptions, I wash my hands and don't touch my face as much ad I can help.

No fear. REALITY but living.

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Good morning to you soywaker®

I’ll admit my first reaction to your post was pretty hostile. I was out of line in my opinion of having meaningful discussion and debate. Thank you for your responses. It’s hard in today’s world to display humility and admit to others and ourselves that we can be better. It’s all “I’m right not matter what and anything you say is wrong and stupid.”

I try to keep an open mind and not shut out opinions, observations, and arguments from the other side. And I can most certainly do a better job of that. I am not an antivaxer, but I’m not vaccinated. I, like many other Americans are hesitant because it’s new, something I don’t know much about and just plain tired of being misled by the news and the government. From the administration I voted for to the administration I didn’t it seems both have engaged in hiding truth misleading facts and just plain out lying. And it’s equally obvious neither side has any other priority higher than staying in power. And to me that pretty much dissolves any credibility. Remember that word humility? It would do so real good in Congress and Senate. If they would lead by example and come together to fight this thing the American people who are similar to me would come around. But until then for me. I have to trust myself and stay in prayer. I know it’s a dangerous virus. And one reason I feel I hold my position is that it hasn’t effected me personally. I have not suffered loss of loved ones like many have. And that’s my ignorance. I hold those people in prayer and continue on listening and learning and trying my best to discern truth from lies and fact from fiction.

Take care, be well, and Go Tigers!!

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What goes across through the media- from Trump’s off-the-cuff “inject disinfectant “ to Biden’s inability to read his teleprompter without stumbling through the words. I was one of the first in line for the shot (and would have been a willing participant in trials if they were in my area) - but my son & his wife just got their 1st shots this week after having the same doubts you express. I was concerned but did not pressure them to get vaccinated but feel better now given this new increase in cases in our area.

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Interesting that in the recent Massachusetts outbreak, CDC says 74% WERE FULLY VACCINATED.

Israel and the UK also have a high % of fully vaccinated folk getting the variant.

I wonder why California is different.

Link to the CEC info from NBC:

https://www.cnbc.com/2021/07/30/cdc-study-shows-74percent-of-people-infected-in-massachusetts-covid-outbreak-were-fully-vaccinated.html?fbclid=IwAR1m1_XTKp5g3oofWFu1vPcZrnFMhN14Gki_AccfwFlk7gF9m-dFofqFyS8

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a totally different scenario than "getting it"... But that's okay, carry on and good luck.

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My friends are vax and swabbed positive. They are part of our current "outbreak," but not in the icu or even hospitalized.

The article posted about Massachusetts outbreak says 74% were vax, with FOUR being admitted to the hospital.

We may have a couple vax pts on med surg I'm not aware of, but NOT ONE on the icu.

And the first thing we ask anymore when we are getting a pt is, "Are they vaccinated?"

It in no way changes the approach. I want these folks to get well, we all do. But yes, I shake my head and feel sad for them that they had a solution and chose not to utilize it.

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the vaccinated cases didn’t have to be admitted to the ICU ? just the unvaccinated? The vaccine never was presented as being 100% preventative/ that it makes symptoms less serious/ if antis would just quit claiming that the #### government is trying to force them to get the shot and consider it an honor to have it available to them. After all , Trump pushed hard to get it developed so quickly for everyone’s benefit


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Fauci has been caught lieing but yet people still believe him. I don't care if you are red or blue, these politicians and government doctors don't give a single F about you or me.

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has had no idea from the beginning what was really going on- he was put in front of a camera to talk about something that nobody understood and still don’t understand- what they report is what they think they know and that information changes faster than the virus mutates. What they aren’t telling the public is that we are one mutation away from a variant that will send us the way of the Incas - one so severe that we have no time to develop an effective vaccine

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If it is true that we are one variant away from a very severe variant, then we will have to live like this forever.

Honestly who would benefit in that scenario?

The answer is the same people that's telling everyone to be worried about it.

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I think what is forgotten in all the rhetoric is this is a novel virus with little understanding outside of previous SARS, MERS, etc history to go on.

I always felt like the directives coming from Fauci and the CDC were more like..

Hey, we don't know. This is new. So to stay safe, bc this could get bad, we need to to do ....... and those things change with time and with perhaps with political pressure from BOTH sides.

This is virus, disease, and death.. not evrryday politics.
And yes, I consider the money involved, the big picture, etc..

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If you look through history you will find that "everyday politics" leads to disease and death.

Stalin made massive propaganda for a scientist that claimed to have the answer for their famine. He liked it because it was a marxist way of farming grains. Something along the lines of freezing the agriculture so future crops would not die in the cold.

Then proceeded to throw out all other agricultural ideas. He controlled the "science" that people seen.

Im just asking that people use critical thinking and ask questions, not blindly comply.

Who benefits from all this?

Why are people with different ideas being censored?

Why is there SO much propaganda for a vax that is experimental?

I was taught by a massively successful businessman once that if it doesn't make sense, then ask yourself, how would it make sense?


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So I take it you're an MD and have read the studies/research done on the vaccines?

What is the end-game of your villains worldwide conspiracy to get everyone vaccinated?


To answer your questions:

1. The people who would otherwise die benefit from this...

2. No one is being censored, they're just being told they're wrong...

3. Because it could save your life or the life of someone you interact with... and there are a bunch of idiots spreading misinformation and falsehoods that need to be drowned out...


You should listen to that 'massively successful businessman' and ask yourself why you're more afraid of a vaccine that's killed literally 0 people, rather than a virus that's killed literally MILLIONS.

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There are plenty of MDs that don't suggest the vaxx if you are otherwise healthy. You just don't see or hear about them in your circles or social feeds.

"and there are a bunch of idiots spreading misinformation and falsehoods that need to be drowned out..."

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/opinion/federal-judge-claims-the-covid-vaccine-kills-more-people-than-mass-shootings-do/ar-AAKNI7e


And

https://rightsfreedoms.wordpress.com/2021/03/08/updated-how-many-people-are-the-vaccines-killing/


You stated the vaccine isn't killing anyone. The vaccine is killing people.

And I know several people personally that had heart issues after getting the vaccine. Not saying it doesn't work, so don't misunderstand me. Im saying what you stated is wrong about the vaccines not killing people and turned right around and made the misinformation comment.

Look I know you want to point the finger at non vaxxers and blame it in them. But anti vaxxers aren't the bad guys, the ones locking you down and shoving mandates down your throats are the bad guys.

I wish you well though, even if you don't agree with anything I've said.
In the end we are all Americans, and I love our free country.


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Car accidents driving to and from vaccine than vaccine, so you make a good point just stay at home collect your Biden Bucks and vote Democrat.

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My wife is an ER doc. I'll ask if she can find any colleagues that wouldn't recommend the vaccine to everyone eligible.

Forgive my hyperbole in stating 0 have died from the vaccine. According to the actual data 6,340 vaccinated people died (of anything) between 12/2020 and 6/2021. The extremely rare blood clot issue after the J&J shot seem to be the only substantiated vaccine related (3) deaths. It also appears that risk can be mitigated now that docs know to watch for it.
https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/vaccines/safety/adverse-events.html


Also, lol at your first link being to some wack-job judge (who I'd bet my life savings isn't an MD) saying crap like AR15 wounds aren't worse than 9mm handgun wounds.

Your second link is like a conspiracy theory feedback loop.

If the NYT or CNN could break a story that the vaccines are killing loads of people they'd do it in a heartbeat for the clicks, but it's just simply not true. The real conspiracy here is garbage no-name "news" sources writing unresearched, unsubstantiated, flat-out wrong articles to get clicks and make $$.

THERE IS NO WORLDWIDE CONSPIRACY TO GET PEOPLE VACCINATED. I still wanna know what the endgame is for the villain here? Stay in power because all their constituents didn't die? Not have to ask their people to wear masks anymore? The fact that politicians on both sides are willing to come out publicly to beg their constituents to get vaccinated when they know a contingent of their base will ostracize them for it should speak volumes about what they care about (hint: it's you not dying)

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As someone who owns 9mms and an AR-15, 9mm wounds are much worse than AR-15s. It’s not rocket science. Look at the width of the bullet, the fact that an Avg AR round is approximately 1/2 the weight of the avg 9mm round, and also the fact that most AR rounds are FMJ vs most 9mm round carried for defense are hollow points.

I’m sorry, but you’ve lost all credibility with me.

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I'm no gun expert but looks like the AR shots are traveling ~3x faster which tears your insides up a lot more. Maybe to a wooden/paper target a 9mm does more damage but to human tissue the AR does.

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Does it really matter? If you get shot in the head with a .22lr, you’ll die just the same as if your head is exploded with an AR

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No. The AR round goes through both sides like a needle. It DEFINITELY does damage, but modern 9mm rounds with 100s of different styles of hollow points are traveling fast enough to go through human bodies with a hollow point that doubles in size after entry. They are worse.

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Not that it matters, but I think the AR round causes more damage than you think because it tumbles on impact.

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CNN and NYT spew just as much misinformation as the rest though. Remember the "mostly peaceful protests"? I'm just asking to question mainstream media as they are not the saints you may think them to be.

"THERE IS NO WORLDWIDE CONSPIRACY TO GET PEOPLE VACCINATED. I still wanna know what the endgame is for the villain here?"

There is no conspiracy when you have Don Lemon or whatever that CNN guy's name is saying we just need to not allow the unvaxxed to shop, work, ect... and all this for a virus that if you are healthy, you should kick to the curb. How is that okay?

What if the scenario was flipped and they was pushing everyone that would be sensitive to the virus must not be allowed to shop, work, ect...

Tyrannical regimes have been around for as long as men have walked the Earth and do you think it is any different now? They LOVE to control media because if you control the info people get, then you control the people.


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This argument has absolutely nothing to do with Don Lemons opinion, or the media at all. No one at CNN has any actual political power. If it was a power grab why did we ever come out of lockdown and stop wearing masks?? Because things were getting better because of the vaccine!

This has to do with the opinion of the vast majority of doctors and scientists who study this #### for a living.

I don't agree with Don, but idk how many variants there have to be before people realize every time someone gets infected with covid there's another chance for it to mutate into something worse. The Delta variant is real life ####### proof. It's not theory anymore.

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Well I like to think we are having more of a conversation and not an argument. I disagree that people at CNN don't have actual political power. They certainly influence people and they know that. Influenced people elect politicians so in a roundabout way, they do have political power.

I don't agree with Don either, I'm happy we can agree there.

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Exactly. I like real truth like Breitbart and Newmax.
Where we go one we go all!!! Q will inform us.

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Just saying the vaccine has directly killed a handful of people. Definitely not millions but the number isn’t 0.

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I don't care if you are red or blue, these politicians and government doctors don't give a single F about you or me.




Jesus dood what a cynical way to live.

You really think someone who went through the trouble of becoming an MD and dedicating their entire professional lives to healthcare doesn't care about people?

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There are plenty of health care workers who are only on it for the money. Just like bad cops, there are bad nurses and doctors. It’s just part of the society we live in.

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There are lots of easier ways to make doctor money than getting an MD. I'm sure there's some bad doctors out there, but to say every doctor in the government doesn't care about people is cynical as ####.

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thought I'd see Darwin applied so broadly in my lifetime. Let's thin out the herd of dullards. Maybe it will somewhat reverse the first 5 minutes of the movie Idiocracy....

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God bless you Soy! My 58 yo WM friend, runner who eats well and has no comorbidities has been fighting for his life in ICU. Had fevers of 104-105 for 8 days. He said every breath felt like his last. A former anti-vaxxer is now deeply regretting that decision.

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https://www.nbc12.com/2021/07/30/i-should-have-gotten-damn-vaccine-father-5-dies-covid-age-39/


https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2020/10/10/coronavirus-denier-sick-spreader/


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Soy one question if I may

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Are you seeing ICU patients who are unvaccinated and also had a positive Covid test previously? Wondering how effective natural immunity is showing itself to be.

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ask our MDs and coworkers tom and see if that rings a bell with anyone.

If it's a yes, it's going to be only one or two.

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Just wanted to say THANKS for all your insights and your first hand account of what’s going on in the hospital universe. I work with medical personnel daily but we have had to do meetings remotely since 4-2020. Your perspective helps me know how to relate better to the precious folks I talk with every day! Thankful for your dedication to your patients and will be praying for your continued well being.May God bless you richly!

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You may have saved more lives with your postings today than you have all year in the hospital. Thank you.

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Thanks for your update.
Saw this posted this morning. I can't help but feel that public SC schools are going to be chaotic in the next few months:

https://www.thestate.com/news/state/south-carolina/article253138268.html

Wonder how Clemson will fare with it? I am not optimistic.

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Aug 1, 2021, 9:06 AM
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I believe what you are saying but it is anecdotal information...and then there's this......

https://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2021/08/oh_my_god_the_delta_variant_is_going_to_kill_us_all.html


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I love tnet and our Clemson University Tigers.
I have no interest in fighting or arguing.

The ONLY people we are admitting to our ICU are unvaccinated. The unvaccinated people we are admitting ARE NOT elderly, obese, and with loads of comorbidities like diabetes, hypertension, etc..

I mean, we get those folks too, but on Wed i moved a healthy 32yo 6'1" 190lb athletic man to from the med surg floor to the ICU. He swabbed pos a week earlier, home with fevers for a week, came in bc he was monitoring his o2 levels and they hit the upper 80s.
At 230p he was in 4L nasal cannula, very little oxygen. At 6p he was high flow nasal cannula 60L (max) and 90% o2.. coming in to ICU to be placed on bipap, then intubated.
That's FAST.

And that speed is the new norm.
Covid pts in our ICU in the winter would linger and almost ALL die. Again, these are the ICU covid pts. Now he see people getting intubated and dying in 8-10 days.

Vaccinated people, including friends and coworkers, have swabbed pos. Their infection and reaction is like a bad flu at worse.

The vax is not FDA approved, but neither is COVID. Is it worth dying for?

Just giving you the real OF WHAT WE SEE IN OUR 300 bed Sacramento hospital.
I know we are all sick of it.
I'm vexed and live my life. I'm not into fear and hyperbole. I am into the reality of what I see and experience daily at work.
Not vaxed, please reconsider
Have questions that I can try to answer, I'll happily have a DISCUSSION.

Looking forward to the season!!
Y'all be well out there ??



This is a person that see's the affects of the covid virus everyday of their life, and has no reason what so ever to come to T-Net and type out a book about the affects covid is having on the non vaccinated, and it's the same but deadlier than when there wasn't a vaccine, and they are still dying from this virus by the thousands bc they refuse to get the vaccination. They are choosing to risk death over a vaccination that offers life, and IMO, you can't take a more stupid risk of death, over life being vaccinated.

And to be honest, I didn't realize that many people in America live a life in an elevator that never got past the 1st floor!!!!

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Aug 1, 2021, 12:47 PM
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One of my parents best friends (60 yr old super healthy, teaches a cycling class) got the vaccine over 6 months ago and is in very bad shape with the new variant. I’m not saying the vaccine is a placebo, but who knows what is up, down, left, or right anymore. Everyone one here has different points of view, and different experiences.

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Aug 1, 2021, 12:56 PM
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Agree, hard to believe anything honestly. From a birds eye view though, I don't think we should be bashing people for not wanting the vaccine or for wanting the vaccine. I also don't think we should be pointing the finger at either side trying to place blame.

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Stop with the fear mongering and gross misinformation, please.


Aug 1, 2021, 8:34 PM
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Educated people are not buying it anymore.

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Aug 1, 2021, 8:42 PM
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You mean non educated idiots...aka Trumpatrds. There is nothing exactly not to believe. Skeptical might be an appropriate word. Not believing in just brainwashed idiocy.

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You do realize 88% of blacks voted communist. Meanwhile over 65%+ of blacks have not been vaccinated. So your saying “Trumptards” are blacks? Who or what is a “Trumptard”. Is there a bidentard?

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I was in the hospital for 7 days with it and I am in good shape and really no fat and young enough. I had oxygen issues etc. Mine were in the low 80's. I have been vaccinated now and feel fine. Does it work? I don't know. That said, the shot was no big deal, but if I can avoid going to the hospital again it is worth it. Whats the big deal?

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Aug 1, 2021, 9:18 PM
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Anecdotal stories are great, but as an engineer, I prefer data. I'll just leave these UK charts here, and you can decide whether or not the vaccines are effective.

UK cases -- Notice the recent peak, which was the Delta Variant outbreak:




UK deaths --


Source -- ourworldindata.orgdiv>


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Aug 2, 2021, 3:30 PM
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You say the ones admitted are unvaxed. Are there any that have been admitted that previously had COVID-19?

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"When I was young, I was sure of many things; now there are only two things of which I am sure: one is, that I am a miserable sinner; and the other, that Christ is an all-sufficient Saviour. He is well-taught who learns these two lessons." -John Newton


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Aug 4, 2021, 5:38 PM
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What about those who had CoVid (two of my direct family members) and prefer not to get the vaccine. They have shown to have the antibodies after fighting off the disease. I had CoVid, but got the vaccine anyway. But they will not get the vaccine. Thoughts?

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