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That whole thing is just total ########. It is a bashing of
Apr 29, 2017, 10:48 PM
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southern states. F the yankees that put that tripe together.
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You mean - based on statistics?
Apr 30, 2017, 12:07 AM
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You sound snowflakish
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Re: FU COOT LIBERAL***
Apr 30, 2017, 4:58 AM
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Well at least you're being reasonable. Did you have a painters jeans-esque pitchfork holder built into your pants, or do you choose to simply hold it all time while screaming obscenities?
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110%er [7718]
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Re: You mean - based on statistics?
May 4, 2017, 9:39 AM
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Hey can the mods give one good reason why this loser is still allowed to post here.
TIA
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Well ... what is to live in gated communities where poor ...
Apr 30, 2017, 10:17 AM
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people will provide low cost services like lawn care, maid service, restaurant service etc. while they enjoy golf and beaches or lakes?
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Re: Have you all seen this list? Yikes...what state do you live?
Apr 29, 2017, 10:58 PM
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Good grief! Our southern states didn't rank very high! I live in NC and have lived in SC and GA.-all low ranking states. I can't get over that NJ is number 5! Really???
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Re: Have you all seen this list? Yikes...what state do you live?
Apr 30, 2017, 5:05 AM
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People look at Jersey and think of the Sopranos, and the Northern Meadowlands Area which is pure trash...
...however the majority of the state is very pretty. I say this as a non-native New Jerseyan, who has no connection to the state. I have a friend who's currently living in/near Lambertville, NJ which isn't too far away from Princeton. It's a really pretty, pleasant area which wreaks of the old world (in a good way). I think a lot of the old geezers on this site (no offense) would really love it. It's almost offensively peaceful. Every time I've been there, I've been overwhelmed with the nice restaurants & breweries in the area despite being so isolated. It's worth looking into.
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Re: Have you all seen this list? Yikes...what state do you live?
Apr 30, 2017, 5:16 AM
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This ranking has literally nothing to do with which states are prettiest, or which have the best food/drink or whatever. They used 3 criteria.. poverty, education levels and life expectancy.
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Re: Have you all seen this list? Yikes...what state do you live?
Apr 30, 2017, 6:35 AM
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well that, and median income, where the south tends to rank poorly.
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Re: Have you all seen this list? Yikes...what state do you live?
Apr 30, 2017, 6:57 AM
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The higher median income is completely neutralized by the absurd taxes. The state does have nice areas, but the state (even the rural areas) is too crowded and too expensive.
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Re: Have you all seen this list? Yikes...what state do you live?
Apr 30, 2017, 7:21 AM
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I grew up there. What is absurd in Jersey is that it costs you 20 $ every time you want to cross the bridge into Philly or NY.
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It all makes sense to me now...***
Apr 30, 2017, 7:57 AM
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Re: It all makes sense to me now...***
Apr 30, 2017, 8:02 AM
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no personal attacks
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Re: It all makes sense to me now...***
May 4, 2017, 8:42 AM
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You're welcome!!!!!!
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Re: Have you all seen this list? Yikes...what state do you live?
Apr 30, 2017, 9:10 AM
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While the toll costs are high, they aren't quite that high. The crossings into Philly are $5 and the crossings into NYC are up to $15 now. Both only paid leaving NJ. I'd still gladly take high tolls over high property tax. If you have a $200,000 house (which doesn't get you much) the property tax is $5,000 a year.
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Re: Have you all seen this list? Yikes...what state do you live?
Apr 30, 2017, 5:13 AM
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Did you look at the criteria they used? Really not a surprise that New Jersey scores well on incomes and educational attainment.. and no, I don't want to live there. 
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Re: Have you all seen this list? Yikes...what state do you live?
Apr 29, 2017, 11:02 PM
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Odd why the people from jersey and conn move down here.
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Re: Have you all seen this list? Yikes...what state do you live?
Apr 30, 2017, 9:24 AM
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Retirees or close to it who have made their money and are tired of the high taxes.
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Re: Have you all seen this list? Yikes...what state do you live?
Apr 29, 2017, 11:12 PM
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I've lived in five states and overseas. The most up tight, racially and economically segregated, crooked place that I lived was the northern suburbs of Chicago. Makes South Carolina look like the nation's melting pot.
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someday syria will be a great place to live
Apr 29, 2017, 11:13 PM
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cause everybody will have left
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They are full of crap ....notice where all of the
Apr 30, 2017, 12:12 AM
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worst states are!
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We all know what state the coots live in...
Apr 30, 2017, 2:44 AM
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The state of denial
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Re: Have you all seen this list? Yikes...what state do you live?
Apr 30, 2017, 4:43 AM
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Minnesota, #4. MN always ranks very highly on these lists, so not exactly a surprise.
SC ranked #41 because of "high poverty, low educational attainment, and relatively low life expectancy." Those were the 3 statistical criteria used, so I'm not sure why anyone is surprised. There are a great many things about SC to love and be proud of, but let's be real..
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Re: Have you all seen this list? Yikes...what state do you live?
Apr 30, 2017, 5:13 AM
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Guys, let's not get too upset about a list. They've got a metric in which they're evaluating states, and then they ranked them based on the formula. Whether you like it or not, the vast majority of the Southern states are poorly educated, have high crime rates, and don't do much in the way of economy. They're also exceedingly poor, compared to the Northeast and West. It really shouldn't be much of a surprise that they don't thrive in lists like this...
...that isn't to say you shouldn't love where you're from or where you live. Just understand that there's not much appeal for those who are trying to start a new life.
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That last sentence is one of the most ignorant comments
Apr 30, 2017, 6:42 AM
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I've read on Tigernet. If there is not much appeal for those starting a new life here then the Carolinas and Georgia would not have so many transplants from the northeast and midwest. Quality of life and job opportunities are the reasons those states are among the leaders in population growth.
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Re: That last sentence is one of the most ignorant comments
May 4, 2017, 11:23 AM
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I'll admit I was a bit off-base. There's certainly a good amount of appeal for young people in places like Charotte or Atlanta...however you don't see newly-graduated people moving into places like Louisiana, Mississippi, Alabama, South Carolina, Kentucky, or even Tennessee in droves.
I'm not sure QOL is one of the largest driving factors in most of the South. I think it's definitely more based on the job opportunities, which have often come by luring companies with big tax breaks. It's smart, since it's attracting lots of people, but it'll be interesting to see if it's sustainable since it's bringing in a lot of new jobs, but not from home-grown companies. The most innovative economies are still in the Northeast & West, which is why the ultra high-skilled young grads are still flocking towards those cities.
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Mass is #1 is all you need to know that...
Apr 30, 2017, 5:34 AM
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their metrics are buffoonish. I guess taxes were not a consideration.
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Re: Mass is #1 is all you need to know that...
Apr 30, 2017, 6:18 AM
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income tax in Mass is 5.1%, much lower than sc which is the highest in the south at 7%.
sales tax is also lower in Mass, go figure.
then of course there is median income, where mass ranks roughly 50% higher than SC
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how dare you bully them with facts
Apr 30, 2017, 7:07 AM
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You should be ashamed of yourself trying to burst their little bubble.
All them old Yankee transplants have very good pensions so economics aren't a factor, getting away from the weather is. That's why they come down.
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Re: how dare you bully them with facts
Apr 30, 2017, 7:17 AM
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stop being buffoonish 
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Compare property taxes on homes
Apr 30, 2017, 7:28 AM
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Northern states are well above SC. You can't even compare them. My company is based in Ohio and my coworkers are paying $10,000 and more where my 2,600 sq ft SC homes taxes are only $1,500. I'd rather have my salary here then there salary in Ohio. I've lived in 4 different states and been to 47 for my job. I will take here over any of the others.
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Re: Compare property taxes on homes
Apr 30, 2017, 7:35 AM
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salaries in Ohio are roughly the same as SC. Besides, we were talking about MASS being Number 1, not sure how Ohio got into the mix. And was mentioned a few times on this thread, people are moving down for the weather, and yes growing opportunities in the south. growth in the region is some of the highest in the nation. IN 20 years these metrics will be a lot different.
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Re: Mass is #1 is all you need to know that...
May 4, 2017, 12:06 PM
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As Balm showed above, Mass' reputation for high taxes is worse than the actual tax burden. You don't have to agree with their metrics, but what would you add/remove when it comes to their metrics? I think the poverty rate, education rate, median income, life expectancy are all pretty important...however I think they should also include stuff like cost of living (which would be very detrimental to the NE/Western states) and crime.
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Re: Have you all seen this list? Yikes...what state do you live?
Apr 30, 2017, 7:13 AM
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During my Army career I either lived or spent considerable time in SC, NC, GA, FL, VA, MO, KS, NE, MD, PA, LA, TX, CA, MS, AL, AZ, OH, KY, TN, AR, NY, NJ, Wash DC etc... Bottom line I've spent a lot of time in every region of the USA except Alaska and Hawaii and every region/State has it's good points and bad points.
Choosing the best State to live in is subjective to what a person chooses as important criteria which makes lists like the one in the OP an exercise in futility. Some folks might choose low taxes or low cost of living while others might choose the quality of hunting and fishing. As for me, I prefer the weather in the South and want to live close enough to Clemson that I can make it to all the home football games. So no ridiculous list compiled on statistics that I really could not care less about is going to make me think any more or less of the current State in which I reside...
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Re: Have you all seen this list? Yikes...what state do you live?
Apr 30, 2017, 8:12 AM
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being happy with you have is the key I guess.
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That list downplays growth rate and does not take into
Apr 30, 2017, 8:38 AM
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account the tax rates, housing and living costs.
Ignore those factors and you'll always get a list that favors states that are usually blue on election day.
The ratings are bogus.
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Re: That list downplays growth rate and does not take into
May 4, 2017, 12:09 PM
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Why would growth rate be a good measure of QOL though? Popularity isn't necessarily synonymous with quality.
However, I do think that taxes & COL are very important.
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Ridiculous. SC is really 50th best. No question about it.
Apr 30, 2017, 8:53 AM
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It's a terrible place to live and you'll regret ever moving down here.
So all you people on Woodruff Road need to move somewhere else that's much better. Like the Peoples' Republic of Massachusetts.
You're welcome.
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I don't buy into these lists...
Apr 30, 2017, 10:28 AM
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I live in North Alabama (haven't met NAT, that um aware of) and love it. It's the polar opposite of what this list states. You can find great places to live anywhere and go 60 miles and find the worse. Thrive where you are planted and make yourself better.
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it's an exercise in absurdity to quantify an entire state
Apr 30, 2017, 10:47 AM
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as being "better" to live in than another. In order for this poll to be truly accurate, the assumption is that EVERYWHERE in a given state is basically the same.
Is living in Hilton Head and McCormick equivalent?
What about Allendale and Pawley's Island?
Columbia and Clemson?
There are similar examples in every state. Is Watts = Malibu? Is Norcross = Cairo, Ga?
Just dumb.
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Upstate SC is awesome
Apr 30, 2017, 11:03 AM
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The rest of the state, not so much. I get sad every time we go visit our family in the low country. It's destitute.
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Re: Have you all seen this list? Yikes...what state do you live?
May 4, 2017, 10:57 AM
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Haven't all the states at the bottom been ran by Republicans for decades?
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