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Attending a church whose core doctrines you disagree.
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Nov 14, 2025, 6:00 AM
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How can you faithfully attend a SBC church and allow your kids to be taught by them, when you totally disagree with all their major points of doctrine?
The following is the minimum statement of doctrine your church must adhere to to remain in fellowship with SBC
https://bfm.sbc.net/bfm2000/#i
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Re: Attending a church whose core doctrines you disagree.
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Nov 14, 2025, 7:03 AM
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Likely to be seen and heard. Could be from a small town where people talk if you're not in church. Tbf growing up baptist I was full of doubt too and hated going.
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Re: Attending a church whose core doctrines you disagree.
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Nov 14, 2025, 7:34 AM
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“Minimum”
“Must adhere to”
Jesus said love god love your neighbor.
I couldn’t care less about your doctrines and core beliefs.
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Re: Attending a church whose core doctrines you disagree.
Nov 14, 2025, 10:58 AM
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Those are the doctrines and cord beliefs of your church.
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Re: Attending a church whose core doctrines you disagree.
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Nov 14, 2025, 7:37 AM
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“ without any mixture of error”
I’ve noticed you never address when errors and contradictions are brought up. The only way you can believe this is to hold your nose and pretend they don’t exist.
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Re: Attending a church whose core doctrines you disagree.
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Nov 14, 2025, 10:59 AM
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You are making my point for me. Why do you go to a church that believes that?
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Game Day Hero [4149]
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Re: Attending a church whose core doctrines you disagree.
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Nov 14, 2025, 12:12 PM
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The “church” doesn’t believe anything.
There are several hundred individuals that gather every Sunday who do not all see it the same way.
Nothing wrong with that.
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Re: Attending a church whose core doctrines you disagree.
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Nov 15, 2025, 8:24 AM
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Which or those share your belief that Jesus is not their savior?
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Re: Attending a church whose core doctrines you disagree.
Nov 15, 2025, 4:37 PM
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You need to be worried about what Jesus thinks of your laws and traditions. Maybe you should read more of the gospels and less of Paul.
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Re: Attending a church whose core doctrines you disagree.
Nov 16, 2025, 9:10 AM
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I have read The Gospels hundreds of times. You even say most of them are not accurate. In your view, why should I read them? If Jesus is not God, as you believe, why would I care what He says,?
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Cliff notes?***
Nov 14, 2025, 8:25 AM
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Re: Cliff notes?***
Nov 14, 2025, 11:01 AM
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That is clif notes.
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This came up at the last church I attended regularly.
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Nov 14, 2025, 10:52 AM
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Our priest said he welcomed those people. He said to think of the church as a hospital for sick souls rather than a private club open only to members who adhere to a set of rules and beliefs.
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Re: This came up at the last church I attended regularly.
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Nov 14, 2025, 12:13 PM
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“a private club open only to members who adhere to a set of rules and beliefs.”
Sadly that’s how a lot of people see it.
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Re: This came up at the last church I attended regularly.
Nov 14, 2025, 5:03 PM
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Why would you want to gather with a group whose stated beliefs are so opposite yours? Your pastor 100 percent believes the 2000 BFM. You believe none of it, but in his presence, you pretend you do.
Seems quite crazy to me.
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Re: This came up at the last church I attended regularly.
Nov 14, 2025, 6:50 PM
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LOL. I dont pretend to believe anything.
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Re: This came up at the last church I attended regularly.
Nov 14, 2025, 9:39 PM
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Yes you do. You do not make your beliefs known.
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Re: This came up at the last church I attended regularly.
Nov 14, 2025, 10:25 PM
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There are a lot of people sitting in church on Sunday that don’t believe every little thing.
This is a forum for discussing religious topics.
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Re: This came up at the last church I attended regularly.
Nov 15, 2025, 12:14 PM
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Deity of Christ. Inerrancy of Scripture. Virgin birth. None of those are little things. Those are the core of every major doctrine of your SBC church.
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Re: This came up at the last church I attended regularly.
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Nov 15, 2025, 1:41 PM
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The Bible is not inerrant. That has been proven beyond a shadow of a doubt. If someone wants to believe that it is their business. I don’t go around picking fights with those I disagree with like you apparently do.
This is a forum for discussing these things. If you have a problem reading a different view point you shouldn’t log on.
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Re: This came up at the last church I attended regularly.
Nov 15, 2025, 3:17 PM
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I have no problem discussing those things. This thread is not about those things. This thread is about why would someone disagree with all the foundational doctrines of a church, yet still attend that church.
Just assume for this discussion that you are 100 percent correct in your beliefs. Why would you attend a church whose doctrinal statement affirms what you so strongly disagree with? Why would you keep your beliefs that you are so confident in, secret from the leadership of said church? Why would you allow your children to be taught such error?
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Re: This came up at the last church I attended regularly.
Nov 15, 2025, 4:54 PM
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You clearly do have a problem because you are making it personal asking me why I choose to spend time with family and friends I’ve known my whole life just because I don’t agree with them when it comes to religious matters.
Believe it or not you can respect people who see things differently than you. Try it sometime.
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Re: This came up at the last church I attended regularly.
Nov 15, 2025, 5:25 PM
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I respect people who see things differently from me. I don't respect a tare in church who keeps his beliefs secret and then gets online bashing a place he supposedly loves so much.
I know your wife makes you go. That was obvious a long time ago.
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Re: This came up at the last church I attended regularly.
Nov 14, 2025, 4:59 PM
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Where do you see that in Scripture?
Scripturally, Church is to equip the saints to go into the world and convert sinners. Church is for the saved, not the lost. The mission field is the world.
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Re: This came up at the last church I attended regularly.
Nov 16, 2025, 4:29 PM
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The church is the saved, but [those] are not perfect. You do understand what [sanctification] is... means, right?
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Re: This came up at the last church I attended regularly.
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Nov 14, 2025, 5:07 PM
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Paul never met Jesus. Why do you take his word over anybody else?
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Re: This came up at the last church I attended regularly.
Nov 14, 2025, 5:25 PM
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He actually did.
Why do you rail against Christianity, yet allow your kids to be indoctrinated by it? SBC brand of Christianity at that?
I have a lot of objections to Islam. Because of that, I don’t attend a Mosque or drag my kids to a Mosque.
You disagree fully with The Baptist Faith and message, yet you allow your kids to be indoctrinated by it.
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Re: This came up at the last church I attended regularly.
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Nov 14, 2025, 6:46 PM
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Paul never met the historical Jesus. He claimed to see him in a vision. Plenty of people have had those.
I’ll ask again, why do the words of Paul carry more weight than anyone else?
Stop attempting to deflect by insulting me personally and answer the question at hand.
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Re: This came up at the last church I attended regularly.
Nov 14, 2025, 9:42 PM
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The thread is about attending a church whose teachings are opposite yours belief.
Paul’s writing is fully inspired by God. The church you attend believes that and teaches that. If you don’t, why would you expose your kids to those teachings you believe to be “lies”?
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Re: This came up at the last church I attended regularly.
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Nov 14, 2025, 10:20 PM
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Because I believe the message at its core is harmless.
I firmly believe you should love your neighbor. Doesn’t have to mean I believe the man who said it was god.
Everything is not as black and white as you make it. But I understand why you think like that. You are in a belief system. You do not read the Bible for what it is. You are told what it is. I have been there.
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Re: This came up at the last church I attended regularly.
Nov 15, 2025, 12:18 PM
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Harmless? You think teaching your kids they must believe and adhere to what you see is a lie, or they will eternally burn in Hell is harmless?
If you are about love and works, Mormon church would much better suit you than SBC. United Methodist would be right up your alley. SBC? No way man!
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Re: Guess you forgot where
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Nov 16, 2025, 7:58 AM
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Christ said love your neighbor as yourself. And your faith should have works, actual fruits of your believe living out your faith.
You're kinda riding dude pretty hard about where he attends church.
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Re: Guess you forgot where
Nov 16, 2025, 9:07 AM
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Only reason I do is he regularly posts threads about the stupid things his pastor preaches. He kinda begs for it. If you going to regularly attend a church, don't bash it all the time.
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It's a fair question, for sure.
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Nov 16, 2025, 11:53 AM
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And he's answered it. He still gets some benefit from in, in spite of his differences of opinion regarding the core beliefs. I think there are a lot of people who do that; I did it for quite some time myself as I was trying to figure it all out. I don't know that I have, and I still enjoy church sometimes, even if I don't agree with much of what is taught.
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Re: Guess you forgot where
Nov 16, 2025, 5:02 PM
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I’ve never said anything the pastor said was stupid.
Starting a topic questioning the validity of a statement I’ve heard?
Guilty as charged.
If you can’t handle the heat stay out of the kitchen.
The fact that someone questioning what you believe bothers you should tell you something.
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Re: Guess you forgot where
Nov 16, 2025, 5:19 PM
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You questioning what I believe in no way bothers me.
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Re: This came up at the last church I attended regularly.
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Nov 16, 2025, 12:18 PM
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So you spend every Sunday at church no because you agree with it's core message, but rather you find it's core message harmless?
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Re: This came up at the last church I attended regularly.
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Nov 16, 2025, 5:05 PM
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I go because the music is good, they have a lot of home cooked church wide meals, I’m in the golf club…those are a few reasons other than I like to keep the wife happy.
I do enjoy the fellowship and togetherness that a church brings especially during the holidays. Sorry if my reasons for going do not meet up to your and reynolds357 legalistic standards.
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Re: This came up at the last church I attended regularly.
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Nov 16, 2025, 5:58 PM
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You go to church for the music, food, and golf. Then come here to complain about the churches core beliefs. Got it.
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Re: This came up at the last church I attended regularly.
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Nov 16, 2025, 8:39 PM
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People like you are why church attendance is rapidly declining.
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Re: This came up at the last church I attended regularly.
Nov 18, 2025, 7:58 AM
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If holding to the doctrines of the church causes tares to uproot themselves and leave, then Praise The Lord. Thd primary function of. Church is not socialization. Pri ary purpose is equipping saints to go into the world and convert sinners. Not working too good for you. You are going into the world and opposing The Gospel. It is good for the church when people who believe as you do leave.
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