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Mah spiracy!!!!***
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Re: In considering whether or not to get the vax
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Jan 25, 2023, 10:11 AM
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Some people never grow up.***
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Jan 25, 2023, 10:13 AM
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Tiger Titan [49074]
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yeah, like people who make important medical decisions
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Jan 25, 2023, 10:22 AM
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based on twitter
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Campus Hero [13336]
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You mean based on a means of transferring information?
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Jan 25, 2023, 11:03 AM
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Like electronic media, sound waves, or paper?
Twitter is just a convenient means to communicate information. It is not the source.
When you grow up you may understand this.
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Tiger Titan [49183]
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Re: You mean based on a means of transferring information?
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Jan 25, 2023, 11:04 AM
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Twitter is just a convenient means to communicate informationwords. It is not the source.
Because what you posted isn't information. Information informs.
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Campus Hero [13336]
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So Pete McCullough
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Jan 25, 2023, 11:10 AM
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doesn't inform?
You must have picked up a medical degree while I wasn't looking.
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Tiger Titan [49183]
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Nah. Just a Ph.D. in spotting bull ####.
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Jan 25, 2023, 11:13 AM
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McCullough has been busted for spreading COVID falsehoods and even sued by one company for trying to attach their name to it. He has repeatedly spread conspiracy theories.
But by all means, believe them and this #### waffle's Twitter account.
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Campus Hero [13336]
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He's not wrong.
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Jan 25, 2023, 11:17 AM
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Please show if you have any evidence to contradict.
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Tiger Titan [49183]
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He is.
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Jan 25, 2023, 11:22 AM
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And tell me what evidence you would accept that would change your mind on this. Is your mind capable of being changed on this topic?
If no, we'll save each other time.
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You could show
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Jan 25, 2023, 11:26 AM
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that what he asserts about the persistence of spike proteins is incorrect. That was the thrust of the relevance between his comments and the autopsy quote. A guy who hadn't had COVID had the adverse effect attributable to the vax.
What Tiggity posted doesn't contradict any of that.
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Tiger Titan [49183]
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So you're telling me...
Jan 25, 2023, 11:32 AM
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That if I show you "that what he asserts about the persistence of spike proteins is incorrect. That was the thrust of the relevance between his comments and the autopsy quote. A guy who hadn't had COVID had the adverse effect attributable to the vax," you'll change your mind and publicly admit you were wrong?
And what sources are off limits in this discussion?
Because you also know that it's medical professionals who are saying McCullough is wrong, right?
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Campus Hero [13336]
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I know that it is medical professionals
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Jan 25, 2023, 11:34 AM
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who said you wouldn't get COVID if you got the vax.
Do you believe your favored medical professionals are incapable of being mistaken?
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Tiger Titan [49183]
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So again...
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Jan 25, 2023, 11:35 AM
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Which source would you accept as credible to refute McCullough that would change your mind on this?
Do you believe your favored medical professionals are incapable of being mistaken?
Do you believe McCullough is?
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Campus Hero [13336]
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I believe he
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Jan 25, 2023, 11:38 AM
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is more credible than most on this issue.
I also know the 'settled science' cult is strong on the COVID debate.
Do you believe there's financial and career risk to scientists who buck the conventional wisdom and, conversely benefit to those who tout the prevailing narrative?
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Tiger Titan [49183]
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Why are you dodging that source question?
Jan 25, 2023, 11:43 AM
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Is anything capable of changing your mind?
I believe he is more credible than most on this issue.
What about all the doctors with similar credentials who disagree with him? Why aren't they?
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I'm happy to see
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Jan 25, 2023, 11:47 AM
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what you find.
That would look like an actual discussion.
We could have started there.
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Tiger Titan [49183]
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I'm not going to look up stuff for you
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Jan 25, 2023, 11:50 AM
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If your mind is already cemented and you're going to write off any doctor who disagrees with him as "scared to stand up to the mob" or whatever or you "LOL (insert source you don't like)," which you have a long history of doing.
It seems you've already formulated your views that vaccines cause heart defects (you posted a thread about kids and the vaccine a few days ago; I posted a link that debunked it and you ran away) and nothing is going to change that. So carry on and maybe jump in on the Damar Hamlin conspiracies, too.
Birds aren't real.
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Campus Hero [13336]
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Sounds like
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Jan 25, 2023, 11:54 AM
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you already have your mind made up and are writing off anything that doesn't agree.
How would you say the volume of VAERS reports of COVID vax injuries compares to the volume of reports of other vaccines?
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Re: I'm not going to look up stuff for you
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Jan 25, 2023, 7:08 PM
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Dear RPMcMurphy® and Catahoula®.
The normal debate protocol is that when a poster makes his first claim about information, and then gets called to produce info to support that claim, that putting up or slinking away is the proper next step for the one that failed to ‘put up’ when asked to do so.
Cat, it’s your turn to put up or shut up … each time you try to divert the thread away from your vacuous assertion only makes your position more pathetic.
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Like you slinking away after your claim that a retired FBI
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Jan 25, 2023, 7:29 PM
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agent who was arrested for his violation of Russian sanctions was a “conspirator” involved in the Trump probe?
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Re: Like you slinking away after your claim that a retired FBI
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Jan 25, 2023, 7:55 PM
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I’ll re-link it to you in another post.
BTW, your lefty buddy went on a tedious back-and forth while refuting RPMurphy’ original post cut-and-paste by attacking Peter McCullough’s medical credentials.
When your lefty buddy was challenged to provide anything other than his own blather, your buddy just tap-danced and deflected. He clearly had the time to attempt to ‘win,’ but was only able to prove that he had nothing.
OK, I’ll repost my links to you in via a new post.
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Tiger Titan [49183]
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Accidentally TU this dumb post so enjoy a freebie.***
Jan 26, 2023, 7:56 AM
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Thanks for the rules refresher...
Jan 26, 2023, 7:55 AM
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From a guy who joined a year ago to two guys who have been here 20+ years, and from a guy who repeatedly runs away from his threads when he gets torched because someone asks for proof of his claims and he can't provide it.
I'm not going to hunt down information for Randall because he's already made it clear he won't accept anything I give him. So it's a waste of time. That's how a debate ends, son.
And besides, plenty of others, especially Spoon and Tiggity, have already destroyed his OP.
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Tiger Titan [49183]
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Nah, man, my opinion holds NO WAIT.***
Jan 25, 2023, 12:06 PM
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^^^buttchugs supplements from infowars.com***
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Ultimate Clemson Legend [109356]
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Hate to break the news to you but
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Jan 25, 2023, 10:19 AM
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You will get your spike, either way. If you get a vaccine and it stays with you, or the virus without a vaccine...it still stays with you. Get a vaccine, and then the virus, doesn't matter.
Full study:
https://www.nature.com/articles/s41586-022-05542-y SARS-CoV-2 infection and persistence in the human body and brain at autopsy - Nature Coronavirus disease 2019 (COVID-19) is known to cause multi-organ dysfunction1–3 during acute infection with severe acute respiratory syndrome coronavirus 2 (SARS-CoV-2), with some patients experiencing prolonged symptoms, termed post-acute sequelae of SARS-CoV-2 (refs. 4,5). However, the burden of infection outside the respiratory tract and time to viral clearance are not well characterized, particularly in the brain3,6–14. Here we carried out complete autopsies on 44 patients who died with COVID-19, with extensive sampling of the central nervous system in 11 of these patients, to map and quantify the distribution, replication and cell-type specificity of SARS-CoV-2 across the human body, including the brain, from acute infection to more than seven months following symptom onset. We show that SARS-CoV-2 is widely distributed, predominantly among patients who died with severe COVID-19, and that virus replication is present in multiple respiratory and non-respiratory tissues, including the brain, early in infection. Further, we detected persistent SARS-CoV-2 RNA in multiple anatomic sites, including throughout the brain, as late as 230 days following symptom onset in one case. Despite extensive distribution of SARS-CoV-2 RNA throughout the body, we observed little evidence of inflammation or direct viral cytopathology outside the respiratory tract. Our data indicate that in some patients SARS-CoV-2 can cause systemic infection and persist in the body for months. A study reports the distribution, replication and persistence of SARS-CoV-2 throughout the human body including in the brain at autopsy from acute infection to more than seven months following symptom onset.
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So you advocate repeated
Jan 25, 2023, 10:20 AM
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exposure then?
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Wouldn't a vax or booster be a repeat exposure?***
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Re: So you advocate repeated
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Tiggity: *Posts well-researched reply that completely refutes the OP."
RPM: "So you advocate something completely ridiculous that you didn't say at all because I have to straw man everything!"
C'mon.
Why do you have to straw man in almost every argument? It's ridiculous, everyone sees it, and it doesn't sway any opinions.
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Wrong.
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Jan 25, 2023, 11:04 AM
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Try again.
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Can someone, anyone, raise their hand if you posting
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Jan 25, 2023, 11:13 AM
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links from "NATURAL IMMUNITYFTW" Is changing anyone's mind?
I would bet money that she's went to Dealey plaza last year waiting for JFK to show up, and that at some point in the last 5 years sold essential oils and swore they mad her younger.
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Re: Can someone, anyone, raise their hand if you posting
Jan 25, 2023, 11:20 AM
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"I know the president of the hospital!!1!"***
Jan 25, 2023, 11:36 AM
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Nat. immunity via periodic exposure to <= 300 viral units?
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Jan 25, 2023, 8:07 PM
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You’re in over your head.
Tiggity opined that 97% of people have been either exposed to COVID-19 virus or to the vaccine.
In both categories, evidence of spike protein is found a long time after the exposure. It is not known that the spike protein (either via infection with COVID-19, or via the vax) will remain in the body forever.
To my limited understanding as a non-medical / non-pharma person is whether periodic exposure to ~ 300 airborne viral particles into the respiratory tract will create natural immunity without actually contracting the full blown disease.
(I had read elsewhere … and no, I don’t have a link and won’t spend the time to find my source again [but I think it was the CDC website] that the threshold for infection was ~ 300 viral particles via airborne vector.)
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I do this for you, not him.***
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Nah, that's #########.
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Jan 25, 2023, 1:40 PM
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For many reasons. Even if you trust that particular study, they sampled people who died while having a positive PCR test for covid. So if you sample them after death, sure you're going to get some more positive PCR results.
The point here is about long-term after effects.
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Re: In considering whether or not to get the vax
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Jan 25, 2023, 10:23 AM
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Dr Peter McCullough- enough said
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"YOU'RE YOUR OWN BEST DOCTOR."
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Jan 25, 2023, 10:25 AM
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that about sums up all position of all the anti-vaxxers
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I hate to tell you guys, but most people aren't getting the
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booster. It's time to let go of your vaccine all the living things crusade.
Which does raise an important question, how many months does one get to go without a booster before becoming anti-vax? Many on here have said they aren't going to get another one, that should mean they get mocked now too right? 3
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Tiger Titan [49183]
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I think there's a difference between...
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Someone saying, "I'm good" when it comes to the booster given the state of COVID now (kind of like flu vaccines) vs. these wing nut "Your heart is destroyed and all of you who got it are ######!" Twitter posts.
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Heisman Winner [81198]
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No, no...Not to these lunatics. If you don't want the
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Jan 25, 2023, 10:48 AM
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vaccine you're killing grandma, anti science, and all of the other bad adjectives we can come up with. You also should lose your job, family, and life as you know it.
I always questioned the ultimate efficacy, and I ended up being right.
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Tiger Titan [49183]
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Which lunatics? In this thread?
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Jan 25, 2023, 10:50 AM
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The OP was a wingnut bad science claim off of Twitter, and that's what's being addressed.
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Conservativealex, obviously soccerkrzy since he gave me a TD
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FBcoach was a big one on here for awhile. You know just as well as I do that those people were running rampant there for awhile. They were acting like full blown lunatics over it.
I'm frankly not surprised there's the same type of reaction from the other side of the coin. What is humorous is the total lack of self awareness it takes from many of the most maniacal vaccine pushers to turn around and mock those people over it. They acted the same way, if not crazier. At least they aren't promoting people losing access to healthcare, jobs, and every day life for getting it.
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I'm not one of them, my TD is because you're obviously
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derailing the point being made here and in turn are supporting her and the idiot RPMcMurphy.
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Unless if you think you are your own best doctor...then yeah
Jan 25, 2023, 10:56 AM
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you're an idiot too. But you don't think that.
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Look man, I love you. But what we're doing here is not
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Jan 25, 2023, 11:42 AM
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talking facts, but mocking RPM so hard he deletes the thread. Again.
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HE'S A MAIL DOCTOR SO YOUR OPINION HAS NO WAIT
Jan 25, 2023, 3:24 PM
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Jesus Christ, you. You.
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Tiger Titan [49183]
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First...
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I didn't realize we could see who TDs us until you just pointed it out. Oh man, T3Tiger ain't gonna like that.
Secondly, I mean, I kinda have to agree with soccrkrzy here that this feels like a thread derail attempt.
Bruh, RPM is wrong and he's employing his usual tactics. It's different than what you're saying, so I would clarify so you don't look like you're agreeing with him. Unless, of course, you do. But he posted complete nonsense.
This is the same guy last week who bragged that he knew the president of a hospital or something over COVID regulations and he was gonna do something about it.
Hey, you and I are on the same page that it's time to calm the #### down with the COVID regulation stuff; I personally feel like we beat this thing. I'm not planning to get a booster (I also think I might be one of the people immune to it). But he's peddling conspiracy bunk over heart issues.
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Wrong again.
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Having a bad day?
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