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The one thing I do not want to hear next year......
Mar 25, 2013, 3:16 PM
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I don't want to hear how young we are. Brownell has now had three players transfer. 2 would be Jrs. next year and 1 would be Sr. You can no longer blame OP for our depth problems.
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Ultimate Clemson Legend [105933]
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I am a big supporter of CBB, and I agree with your post
Mar 25, 2013, 3:17 PM
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completely. If there is no significant progress next year, then we may be better served by going in a different direction.
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Re: You might be right but I am wiling to give him the
Mar 25, 2013, 3:22 PM
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chance to do it.
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National Champion [7966]
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does it really matter if we give him the chance or not....
Mar 25, 2013, 3:23 PM
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since we don't hire/fire? 
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Re: Not to me, but like everyone else, I can still #####.
Mar 25, 2013, 3:39 PM
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If you don't like it; don't reply.
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Ultimate Clemson Legend [105933]
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I am hoping that I am not just relying on blind faith!
Mar 25, 2013, 3:32 PM
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I think BB is an excellent game planner, as is evident by how close we were in a lot of games. Offensively, Blossomgame and Coleman will need to contribute a lot. KJ will need to help take over games. But in the end we will need to rely on the bigs that we do have, granted looking at the current roster may not be much, to operate within the system to hold their own.
We will have to wait and see.
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Ultimate Tiger [37033]
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Great response
Mar 25, 2013, 4:17 PM
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We will be taller at center with Nnoko at 6'10" but little depth if any behind him.
We were close in a lot of games this year and I too hope that the players learn how to close the deal rather than leave the door open at the end of games.
Losing Sullivan we do lose some height but in all reality we lose 1 point per game.
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Varsity [110]
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But how many points did we lose
Mar 25, 2013, 5:28 PM
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from Booker and Jennings. That is the real issue, we need a committee of players to pick up their averages.
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Re: Where are you seeing a chance for progression at?
Mar 25, 2013, 4:48 PM
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I have only been a tiger fan for 50 some years and man I am as frustrated as anybody is about the state of our program. Brownell is a good coach, I believe that with all my heart. He will have no excuses next year no matter how young a team he has. I see some bright spots for next year, primarily that the two seniors are gone. I don't think either were very strong leaders and our insistence on trying to get it to Booker underneath was hardly successful most of the year. Much of the time the passes were late or our big men didn't make very good attempts to get to the ball. Many of the games it was asking for a turn over without a shot to even try to get it to them. I would much rather shoot from outside and take our chances. I think Roper can be a great shooter and evidently Rooks has great potential as an outside shooter. Those two can open things underneath for Nnoko or whomever may be playing for us underneath. McKenzie and Blossomgame are both more athletic than most anybody we have had in awhile so I look for improvement in at least three positions next year with at least the same quality in the other positions.
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everything is OP's fault
Mar 25, 2013, 3:22 PM
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get with the talking points of tnet.
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National Champion [7966]
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reminds me of someone else....
Mar 25, 2013, 3:30 PM
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now who is that other guy who dodges and blames....name is right on the tip of my tongue...
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I hate hearing "Jennings was OP's recruit". Does anyone
Mar 25, 2013, 3:23 PM
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actually believe that BB would not have recruited Milton Jennings?
He may not have landed him based off what we've seen from his recruiting, but you've gotta be crazy if you think he wouldn't have recruited the guy.
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National Champion [7966]
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would you not recruit Booker either?
Mar 25, 2013, 3:27 PM
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given the ratings he had as a high school player, he's from SC, and he was a legacy player with a brother having played here?
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Paw Master [16912]
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Of course. BB would've recruited both players. That's why
Mar 25, 2013, 3:29 PM
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it's retarded to say "he was OP's recruit". BB would've done the same dang thing.
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Re: The one thing I do not want to hear next year......
Mar 25, 2013, 3:25 PM
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Lack of seniors will still be on OP.
That is a fact. Stanton was never meant as a long term player.
He was brought in due to only having ONE PG on the roster for the next year.
edit due to a mistake.
Message was edited by: clemtiger117®
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how does that impact graduation rate that the NCAA
Mar 25, 2013, 3:31 PM
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calculates when you bring in a player that you KNOW is only a stop gap solution?
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Varsity [110]
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Also
Mar 25, 2013, 3:44 PM
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How ###### is it as a coach to bring someone in and them kick them to the curb.
I don't think Brownell actually did this, but the way 117 talks, Brownell basically used Stanton then threw him away.
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National Champion [7966]
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if that's what happened it's pretty shady...hopefully it
Mar 25, 2013, 3:45 PM
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didn't happen that way.
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Re: Also
Mar 25, 2013, 3:47 PM
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lol that is not even close to what I said.
Stanton was brought in to fill a whole and was out recruited in a hurry.
He then left.
Simple as that.
I realize I am talking to one of the biggest haters on here but dont twist my words.
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National Champion [7966]
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but if you bring in a player who's way in over his head from
Mar 25, 2013, 3:49 PM
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day one then you aren't doing a favor to anyone.....maybe he thought he was a better player than he turned out to be....evaluation has to be tough.
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Varsity [110]
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Agree
Mar 26, 2013, 10:44 AM
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For some reason 117 wants to fault OP for Brownells first class
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Re:Stanton got his chances. More than some and he did not
Mar 25, 2013, 4:11 PM
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make good on them.
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Re: Re: The one thing I do not want to hear next year......
Mar 25, 2013, 3:31 PM
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He had D Stitt and A Young, next argument.
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Ultimate Clemson Legend [105933]
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You are correct, and with those guys he won an NCAA
Mar 25, 2013, 3:38 PM
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Tourney game, which is something OP was unable to accomplish.
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Ultimate Tiger [37033]
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^^^That's a fact Jack!!!***
Mar 25, 2013, 4:21 PM
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Re: ^^^That's a fact Jack!!!***
Mar 25, 2013, 4:31 PM
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Do you guys not realize that Brownell would not have even made the tourney had it not expanded that year. Even so, he made it to the final 64, same as OP.
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Ultimate Tiger [37033]
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Do you not realize that
Mar 25, 2013, 4:36 PM
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if a frog had wings he wouldn't but his butt every time he jumps.
Fact is the field did expand, fact his he did make it, fact is his win counts as a tourney win. I don't care who's players it was, he was the coach and they used his scheme.
Will BB get it done at Clemson, I don't know....but I'm not going to sell him short either. He gets another year!!
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Re: The one thing I do not want to hear next year......
Mar 25, 2013, 3:41 PM
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Agree that without progress next season we need to start looking, but your reasoning is just plain wrong. The transfers up until now were directly a result of OP leaving and he is the reason our depth sucks. With that said Brownell's players are now experienced and we should begin to see improvement.
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Trainer [26]
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Re: You are correct, and with those guys he won an NCAA
Mar 25, 2013, 3:54 PM
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BB beat UAB, OP lost games against teams like Villanova and Mizz. Next argument.
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Re: You are correct, and with those guys he won an NCAA
Mar 25, 2013, 3:58 PM
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You mean that game where he lost to a 12 Seed Nova team after blowing a massive lead.
Oh yeah that was a great showing from OP.
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TigerNet Elite [73613]
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the only time Brad has won, is with OPs players
Mar 25, 2013, 4:11 PM
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Brad hasn't done crap yet except get worse every yr.
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Varsity [110]
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And BB has only gone as FAR as OP at Clemson
Mar 25, 2013, 5:31 PM
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BB has never gone FURTHER than OP did in the NCAAs at Clemson.
He may have won a game, but it was a play-in game.
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Trainer [26]
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Re: Re: You are correct, and with those guys he won an NCAA
Mar 25, 2013, 4:09 PM
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Yea Nova a team from the Big East not a play in game against a Sun Belt team. We haven't sniffed the tournament since that "monumental" victory over UAB.
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CU Medallion [19353]
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Re: Re: You are correct, and with those guys he won an NCAA
Mar 25, 2013, 4:11 PM
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Yes because if anything the tournament has shown us the past few years is that teams from non major conferences are absolute garbage.....
Also learn how to properly reply.
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Trainer [26]
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Re: Great response
Mar 25, 2013, 4:32 PM
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Next year you will say "we are young, we need time to develop". Wait until our Sophomores become juniors. Oh wait, they never make it to their junior or senior year. Next argument.
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Ultimate Tiger [37033]
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If you want to respond to me please respond to my post
Mar 25, 2013, 4:38 PM
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like your supposed to. I will not search out anymore of whatever this is your spewing!
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My goodness man. Click reply on the post you want to reply
Mar 26, 2013, 12:38 PM
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to.
Same goes if you're posting from a phone.
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National Champion [7848]
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I thought you were going to say the Woo Hoo
Mar 26, 2013, 10:52 AM
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Just saying
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if Obama can go for 5 years blamming Bush, surely we
Mar 26, 2013, 12:02 PM
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can go one more year blamming OP
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