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Elliott and Venables are succeeding because
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Elliott and Venables are succeeding because

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Nov 16, 2025, 8:20 AM
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They both took starting qbs from the portal. Clemson desperately needs to do this . I have my doubts that Dabo will do this. I hope 🙏 to be proven wrong.

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Re: Elliott and Venables are succeeding because

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Nov 16, 2025, 8:41 AM
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You are wrong!
About everything!
We don’t need a failed QB from the portal

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Youre right. Our failed QB on the field is better

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Nov 16, 2025, 8:43 AM
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🤷‍♂️

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Re: Elliott and Venables are succeeding because

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Nov 16, 2025, 8:50 AM [ in reply to Re: Elliott and Venables are succeeding because ]
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1965tiger said:

You are wrong!
About everything!
We don’t need a failed QB from the portal


Why are you always so grouchy? We're you born in ' 65 or did you graduate Clemson in ' 65 ? If it is the latter I understand.

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Nov 16, 2025, 9:22 AM [ in reply to Re: Elliott and Venables are succeeding because ]
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You are correct! We need to find the successful QB we want and offer him enough money to jump in the portal.

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You mean like the 3 failed portal QBs who are among the top

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Nov 16, 2025, 9:27 AM [ in reply to Re: Elliott and Venables are succeeding because ]
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Heisman contenders?

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Mrs Vizzina?***


Nov 16, 2025, 9:30 AM [ in reply to Re: Elliott and Venables are succeeding because ]
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According to Sports Reference ratings, CK 145, Mateer 130, Morris 139...

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Nov 16, 2025, 8:49 AM
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This wasn't meant to bash the portal or those players, and there is more to the game than on field performance, but there might be better examples?

Neither of those guys are exactly killing it.


https://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/players/cade-klubnik-1/gamelog/2025/

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If Morris had portaled in

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Nov 16, 2025, 8:53 AM
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This place would have imploded family and friends and all..

Some people just complain because they can

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They do, it's lazy and good morning, friend! Have a great one...***

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Nov 16, 2025, 8:54 AM
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Just stop

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Nov 16, 2025, 10:06 AM [ in reply to According to Sports Reference ratings, CK 145, Mateer 130, Morris 139... ]
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Both of those teams used the portal for a QB and both have a better record than us. This is proof that portal QBs make you better. It’s just science.

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"I've played multiple sports and would bet any amount that I'm still more athletic than you at this present time...."


my bad...***

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Nov 16, 2025, 10:07 AM
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I am concerned that Denson may hit the portal if we take a starting QB from the

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Nov 16, 2025, 10:11 AM
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portal as just last week our plan was for Denson to be the focal point. Maybe Denson had a bad week of practice?

“Make Denson the focal point of next years offense” -tgrchd



https://www.tigernet.com/clemson-forum/message/make-denson-the-focal-point-of-next-years-offense-37757057




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"I've played multiple sports and would bet any amount that I'm still more athletic than you at this present time...."


Yeah, I'd really like to believe that was a joke; I really would...***

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Nov 16, 2025, 10:49 AM
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Re: I am concerned that Denson may hit the portal if we take a starting QB from the

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Nov 16, 2025, 11:08 AM [ in reply to I am concerned that Denson may hit the portal if we take a starting QB from the ]
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I would love to see Denson succeed. Im surprised you commented. You normally just troll basketball posts.

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I 'magine FM would love to see all Tigers succeed; #metoo...

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Nov 16, 2025, 11:17 AM
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that's not the point.

There's a madness to the reason.




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Nov 16, 2025, 11:13 AM [ in reply to I am concerned that Denson may hit the portal if we take a starting QB from the ]
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You’re concerned about a 3 star freshman fallback recruit leaving?

Lmao!!!

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I'm going to guess, NO, FM's not concerned about Denson leaving...

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Nov 16, 2025, 11:16 AM
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You seem a good dude, really, so what's the beef with FM, because this take makes you look, well... stupid.

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Put another way, who's Scok is this

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Nov 16, 2025, 3:32 PM
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asssuck.

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Re: I am concerned that Denson may hit the portal if we take a starting QB from the

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Nov 16, 2025, 11:16 AM [ in reply to Re: I am concerned that Denson may hit the portal if we take a starting QB from the ]
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He's being his normal sarcastic self.

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Inarguable sound logic..this case is closed****


Nov 16, 2025, 10:42 PM [ in reply to Just stop ]
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Nov 16, 2025, 8:56 AM
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I bet they would both be doing well if they had Cade at QB.

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Nov 16, 2025, 9:07 AM
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I wasn't implying that Clemson should have taken a portal qb prior to '25. They need one this prior to ' 26 .

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Nov 16, 2025, 9:11 AM
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Maybe we don't? Maybe Vizznia is what we need.

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Nov 16, 2025, 9:16 AM
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Your logical suggestion will be met with some skepticism , I assure you.

There may be word violence.

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Nov 16, 2025, 9:16 AM [ in reply to Re: Elliott and Venables are succeeding because ]
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I would love to see a coordinator who runs an up tempo spread. In a dream scenario Denson would be the next Lamar Jackson. Taking a portal qb and many other possible portal starters would create a lot of off-season excitement. Which the program desperately needs at the moment.

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Nov 16, 2025, 9:19 AM
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A new OC and good results on the field will work.

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Nov 16, 2025, 9:21 AM
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TgrChd said:

They both took starting qbs from the portal. Clemson desperately needs to do this . I have my doubts that Dabo will do this. I hope 🙏 to be proven wrong.




There are roughly 1349 factors which influence a coach’s success and you believe this one factor is the reason for their success? FWIW neither had a quality QB on their roster so they had no choice. At UVA, TE had to convince their supporters to give NIL money so he could grab Morris out of the portal.

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1,349? Did you count those on fingers and toes? ***


Nov 16, 2025, 9:29 AM
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Nov 16, 2025, 10:10 AM
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tigerzeye said:




Roughly meaning approximate. I should not need to explain simple things

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Nov 16, 2025, 9:35 AM [ in reply to Re: Elliott and Venables are succeeding because ]
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TgrChd said:

They both took starting qbs from the portal. Clemson desperately needs to do this . I have my doubts that Dabo will do this. I hope 🙏 to be proven wrong.




There are roughly 1349 factors which influence a coach’s success and you believe this one factor is the reason for their success? FWIW neither had a quality QB on their roster so they had no choice. At UVA, TE had to convince their supporters to give NIL money so he could grab Morris out of the portal.


I was referring that Clemson should take a portal qb in '26. Not replacing Cade with one for this season.

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I cant believe it but

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Nov 16, 2025, 10:15 AM [ in reply to Re: Elliott and Venables are succeeding because ]
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+1

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"I've played multiple sports and would bet any amount that I'm still more athletic than you at this present time...."


There's not better quarterbacks, than what's already on our roster.


Nov 16, 2025, 9:31 AM
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However, there are plenty of other positions we needed starters and valuable depth. CK2 is not a bad QB, he just isn't DW4 or TLaw. He's got loads of talent, but he doesn't always make the best decision. It looks like the game's just never quite slowed down for him. Attrition has hurt our roster in the middle and bottom the most.

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Nov 16, 2025, 9:39 AM
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Chandler Morris has made a world of difference for the Hoos, (but I actually think UVA will get run out of the stadium if they make the playoffs).

As for OU, they are winning off of grit and defense. Mateer is a mediocre QB, who can make some plays when needed but nothing special. Cade is a little bit better than Mateer is.

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Nov 16, 2025, 10:45 AM
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It's because they are well coached

Elliott learned from us....how to do more with less

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CRY MORE, YOU AND ALL THE IGNORANT WHINERS ROUND THESE PARTS

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Nov 16, 2025, 10:52 AM
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EVERY SINGLE THAT HAS BEEN FIRED THIS HAD PORTALERS ALL OBVER THE TEAM



YOUR KIND DON'T MATTER, BUT CRY ON.

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Nov 16, 2025, 11:34 AM
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Compare the record of all three Head Coaches. Dabo, Tony and Brent. BV and TE came into this season on a pretty warm seat. After week 12 I am sure Botha seats have cooled.

But Dabo has a more successful record over the past 5 years than either BV or TE.

The TP only works if the player you want, wants you and the other factor is can a team afford that player.

As a Head Coach you make commitments to recruits so using the TP is a roll of the dice as much as recruiting HS players. In today’s world of play for pay college football has created such chaos that picking winners and losers every week is like flipping a coin.

It’s all about the money. Clemson Fans have very high expectations in the new era of NIL, Revenue Sharing and the TP. But are Clemson IPTAY members, Alumni and fans willing to put up the 💰💰💰💰💰💰💰💰💰 needed to keep up with the Elite ???

Next season may answer that question ???

We are now in a sports environment of greed, corruption and uncertainty. Clemson fans should be grateful for the years of Elite Football Dabo, his staff and the players gave the fans before the play for pay era 🐅🐅🐅

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Good post


Nov 16, 2025, 6:43 PM
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The fact anyone pays/donates for a high school kid without a contract- a fool and his money…

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Nov 16, 2025, 11:49 AM
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Cade has not dropped numerous catchable passes all season. With Cade and CV as our QB’s why would we need a QB from the TP.

Would getting a QB from the TP plug up some of the holes in our secondary ??? Would the QB from the TP block for himself or catch his own passes ???

This has been a tough year of adversity, injuries and poor officiating. It’s how Clemson as whole handles this year and how much support is given by the fans. It’s how the Clemson Family responds in the future that I believe will determine it’s success 🐅🐅🐅

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I have faith in Vazzina, wish he was a little faster***

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Nov 16, 2025, 6:51 PM
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There are MANY other issues besides the QB play at work.

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Nov 16, 2025, 8:56 PM
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S, LB, OL all more important portal needs than QB this year. We have some good potential QB recruits and decent players on the roster. QB may or may not be a portal needs than next year. DB, LB, OL 100% is.

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Nov 16, 2025, 9:16 PM
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I very highly doubt it, too. Vizzina has stayed and played behind Cade so to Dabo that has starting qb all over it. Not if he’s capable but he has stayed ……

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