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Ultimate Clemson Legend [105933]
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Over the next two years, if Trevor Lawrence
Jan 15, 2019, 3:58 PM
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wins two Heisman trophies, will the people of tnet still claim it is a complete sham of an award? TIA
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A Super-Size sham
Jan 15, 2019, 3:59 PM
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Ultimate Clemson Legend [105933]
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Why do you say that?***
Jan 15, 2019, 4:01 PM
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Re: Over the next two years, if Trevor Lawrence
Jan 15, 2019, 4:00 PM
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I’ll be happy he has 2. Doesn’t change the fact the award has lost its purpose based on its own mission statement. I think the problem is either change the mission statement or follow it, what they’ve been doing is neither.
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I will always think that DW should’ve been awarded it.
Jan 15, 2019, 4:02 PM
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That will never change.
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Orange Blooded [2115]
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Re: I will always think that DW should’ve been awarded it.
Jan 15, 2019, 4:03 PM
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DW was the best player in college football that year. He also happened to be one of the best people that did things the right way. The Heisman voters who sent their votes in 3 weeks early did the whole trust a disservice.
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Re: I will always think that DW should’ve been awarded it.
Jan 16, 2019, 1:53 AM
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CJ Spiller should've gotten it one year too I'm.
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Ultimate Clemson Legend [105933]
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Oculus Spirit [43626]
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I feel like I’m on a witness stand. I don’t think it’s a complete sham so no.
Jan 15, 2019, 4:28 PM
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But others do so yes. To be honest I’m not even sure LJ was the worst one to win it. He was phenomenal in his own right at Louisville. I just think DW was the most deserving. I may be biased.
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Now you're thinking outside the bun.***
Jan 15, 2019, 4:02 PM
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I think they should wait until after the season to award it
Jan 15, 2019, 4:09 PM
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DW would've won for sure and Murray wouldn't have won it this year. Performances in major, high stakes games after it has been awarded should and would have some effect on the voters.
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Ultimate Clemson Legend [105933]
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Why wouldn't Murray have won it this year?
Jan 15, 2019, 4:13 PM
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Also, it was a yes or no question, so what's your answer?
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Re: Why wouldn't Murray have won it this year?
Jan 15, 2019, 4:48 PM
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remember when you told me to let you know that you are doing that thing? Now is one of those times....
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Re: Why wouldn't Murray have won it this year?
Jan 15, 2019, 9:12 PM
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Mr Potato Head. MR. POTATO HEAD!!!
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If he wins one, I'm lovin' it***
Jan 15, 2019, 4:10 PM
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We will think that recently it HAS been a sham, and that now
Jan 15, 2019, 4:13 PM
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they've de-shammed it a little.
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The voting system is certainly a sham. They should not even
Jan 15, 2019, 4:55 PM
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be able to submit a ballot until all the games have been played and the champion crowned. Would it have changed anything this year? Probably not. The more you see of Murray the more you like him. Would DW have one in a after-the-season voting system? I think so.
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Re: Over the next two years, if Trevor Lawrence
Jan 15, 2019, 4:59 PM
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If you’re not enough without a trophy you’ll never be enough with one.
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Re: Over the next two years, if Trevor Lawrence
Jan 15, 2019, 10:27 PM
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It would still be a sham BECAUSE TL16 should have won it THIS past season.....Roll Tigers!!!!!!!!!
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Athletic Dir [1153]
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I think it was a super sized scam, DW never got a fair shake
Jan 15, 2019, 10:30 PM
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so to answer your question: Nes
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Paw Master [16321]
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I will appreciate him winning but put more stock into
Jan 16, 2019, 1:29 AM
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these awards that are announced after the season is completed.
The Heisman needs to not allow access to ballots at least until the final regular season game has been played. You have people turning ballots in with week 11 and week 12 not even played. Makes no sense.
So, yes, my opinion of the Heisman will not change. I'll certainly be glad if we wins, but its not important to me.
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Re: Over the next two years, if Trevor Lawrence
Jan 16, 2019, 2:05 AM
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wins two Heisman trophies, will the people of tnet still claim it is a complete sham of an award? TIA
To me, It might mean a lot to TLaw, but the day they gave that award to Lamar Jackson over Deshaun Watson, they validated peoples claims that it is a meaningless sham of an award. That can not be changed even if they get it right every now and then. Everybody in the Country knew when they saw DW4 play in the Championship, that he was the best player in the Nation that year. How can an award that many vote for the best player in the Country way before the season ends ever be legit? It can't.
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Ultimate Clemson Legend [104989]
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Two in a row doesn't vindicate the voters, imo.
Jan 16, 2019, 5:43 AM
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Even a blind squirrel gets a nut every now and again.
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