|
Replies: 36
| visibility 1
|
Orange Blooded [4024]
TigerPulse: 100%
Posts: 4317
Joined: 10/6/03
|
Why would a car dealership in Ohio have any reason to have an NIL deal with a UGA player?
4
May 11, 2023, 12:10 PM
|
|
Come on NCAA!
There is no valid business reason and there isn’t any Name Image or Likeness that’s being utilized.
No one in Ohio is going to buy a car because a UGA OL has an NIL deal.
It’s a straight up payment of a player to choose a university.
|
|
|
|
 |
CU Medallion [64593]
TigerPulse: 100%
Posts: 88998
Joined: 3/27/01
|
Of course it is...
4
May 11, 2023, 12:22 PM
|
|
but the NCAA isn't the least bit interested in investigating or enforcing it so schools will continue to exploit the loopholes and tampering. As it is, any fan, business, or anyone else for that matter, can go to the registry and make a deal with any athlete.
There is going to come a time in the very near future when the top 25 school with the most money will mirror the top 25 teams in the polls. That’s the mess they've created and it's only going to get worse unless they change the rules and regulate it. Unfortunately, it will be very difficult to go back now that the horse is out of the barn.
|
|
|
|
|
|
All-TigerNet [14012]
TigerPulse: 100%
Posts: 7880
Joined: 11/30/98
|
The school presidents around the country could ban together
May 11, 2023, 2:01 PM
|
|
and get a mandate to graduate athletes at a certain rate. If you graduate 100% of you student-athletes, then you get 100% of your allowed # of players. If 75%, then you only get 75% of your # of allotted players.... that's ones on scholly, redshirt, grayshirt, etc. NIL can pay them 10M a year for all I care, but tie the penalty to the schools original intent..... graduate with degrees. This would greatly slow down the portal jumps and once and done guys. It doesn't affect the student's ability to make cash, but the coaches would have to think twice about living in the portal.
My two cents.....
|
|
|
|
|
|
Orange Blooded [3079]
TigerPulse: 58%
Posts: 3565
Joined: 11/24/17
|
Re: The school presidents around the country could ban together
2
May 11, 2023, 2:10 PM
|
|
And you don't think this might lead to academic fraud? These same presidents want to win football games.
|
|
|
|
|
|
All-TigerNet [10643]
TigerPulse: 100%
Posts: 9270
Joined: 12/29/06
|
Re: The school presidents around the country could ban together
1
May 11, 2023, 3:07 PM
|
|
Well, UGA is experts at academic fraud so you will fit right in!
|
|
|
|
|
|
Orange Blooded [3079]
TigerPulse: 58%
Posts: 3565
Joined: 11/24/17
|
Re: The school presidents around the country could ban together
2
May 11, 2023, 4:20 PM
|
|
Appreciate the obligatory insult. Now try defending your position.
|
|
|
|
|
|
CU Guru [1514]
TigerPulse: 94%
Posts: 2317
Joined: 1/14/05
|
|
|
|
|
|
Hall of Famer [22398]
TigerPulse: 100%
Posts: 7158
Joined: 8/31/03
|
|
|
|
|
|
Hall of Famer [22398]
TigerPulse: 100%
Posts: 7158
Joined: 8/31/03
|
Easy way to regulate it, but...
May 11, 2023, 2:05 PM
[ in reply to Of course it is... ] |
|
.... nobody except me thinks it's a good idea.
Big State U recruits Moose Manfield for the 2023 season.
Moose counts as one of the 85 scholarships fir big State U until one of the following happens:
1. Moose receives a degree from Big State U.
2. Jan 31, 2029 arrives. (6 years)
Universities should be recruiting guys who want to use football as a means to pay for a college education.
|
|
|
|
|
|
CU Medallion [64593]
TigerPulse: 100%
Posts: 88998
Joined: 3/27/01
|
Two things need to happen...
2
May 11, 2023, 2:26 PM
|
|
1 - NIL needs to be regulated. As an example, limit it to $1 million annually per school and then the schools can allocate it among their roster at their own discretion. A better option would be to limit the amount any one player can receive annually to $50,000 for example. This keeps the playing field level.
2 - Re-institute the rule that requires transfers to sit out a year. Players have five years to play four. If the decision is made to transfer, regardless of the reason, the transferring player will be required to sit out one year PERIOD...END OF DISCUSSION? That, in and if itself, would reduce the transfers significantly and, frankly, the tampering.
At this juncture, neither are likely to happen and the ongoing ruination of college football will persist.
|
|
|
|
|
|
110%er [5513]
TigerPulse: 100%
Posts: 4988
Joined: 10/21/15
|
Re: Two things need to happen...
May 11, 2023, 2:55 PM
|
|
#1 is impossible.
|
|
|
|
|
|
CU Medallion [64593]
TigerPulse: 100%
Posts: 88998
Joined: 3/27/01
|
Yup...no putting the lid back on that can or worms***
May 11, 2023, 3:12 PM
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Orange Blooded [3079]
TigerPulse: 58%
Posts: 3565
Joined: 11/24/17
|
Re: Two things need to happen...
1
May 11, 2023, 4:23 PM
[ in reply to Two things need to happen... ] |
|
Who exactly is supposed to enforce the amount a player can earn? What happens if the player earns more than the alloted amount? Someone going to confiscate it?
|
|
|
|
|
|
CU Medallion [64593]
TigerPulse: 100%
Posts: 88998
Joined: 3/27/01
|
That's actually the NCAA's job which is an absolute joke...
May 11, 2023, 5:03 PM
|
|
because they are completely toothless and implement a selective enforcement of their own rules, so another governing body would have to be established. There would be no exceeding the maximum allowable amount (of course, some schools will cheat because...well...that's just what they do). Consequently, doing so would have to be a considered a material/major infraction and subject to some pretty severe penalties (i.e., repayment of the money to a charitable organization, suspensions, loss of eligibility, reduction in future NIL payments, and post-season ineligibility, etc.).
|
|
|
|
|
|
Orange Blooded [3079]
TigerPulse: 58%
Posts: 3565
Joined: 11/24/17
|
Re: That's actually the NCAA's job which is an absolute joke...
May 11, 2023, 5:13 PM
|
|
The Supreme Court concluded the NCAA couldn't keep players from earning money. I don't know how anyone now thinks the NCAA has the authority to put limits on those earnings.
|
|
|
|
|
|
CU Medallion [64593]
TigerPulse: 100%
Posts: 88998
Joined: 3/27/01
|
Exactly...which is why I previously said...
May 11, 2023, 5:56 PM
|
|
it will be pert near impossible to put the lid back on that can of worms.
The mess this has resulted is the sole result of the NCAA's inaction. They sat on their collective a$$es and didn't do a friggin' thing, so the Fed stepped in and, as is usually the case, completely fouled it up.
|
|
|
|
|
|
110%er [5513]
TigerPulse: 100%
Posts: 4988
Joined: 10/21/15
|
|
|
|
|
|
Hall of Famer [22398]
TigerPulse: 100%
Posts: 7158
Joined: 8/31/03
|
Good question. My answer.
1
May 11, 2023, 4:15 PM
|
|
Answer to both questions is the same - Universities would be forced to place a priority on recruiting kids who want to come to that school to graduate.
Right now, college football is the de facto minor league for the NFL. It shouldn't be. Universities should not be giving scholarships (think about what that word means) to kids who have no desire, and possibly lacking the ability, to earn a degree.
Let the NFL, NBA and other sports take kids who don't want to go to college and train them. That shouldn't be the job of Clemson or FSU or Georgia or anybody else.
If a kid doesn't graduate, the school should lose a scholarship. It would certainly change the pool from which coaches fished.
Message was edited by: bretfsu®
|
|
|
|
|
|
110%er [6474]
TigerPulse: 100%
Posts: 10128
Joined: 11/2/03
|
|
|
|
|
|
CU Guru [1514]
TigerPulse: 94%
Posts: 2317
Joined: 1/14/05
|
Re: Easy way to regulate it, but...
May 11, 2023, 6:16 PM
[ in reply to Easy way to regulate it, but... ] |
|
I completely agree. I think Dabo agrees, but this is kind of like a suicide pact in that no one wants to go first.
|
|
|
|
|
|
Letterman [283]
TigerPulse: 100%
Posts: 214
Joined: 1/7/13
|
Re: Why would a car dealership in Ohio have any reason to have an NIL deal with a UGA player?
May 11, 2023, 12:24 PM
|
|
Is the player originally from Ohio? Any names?
|
|
|
|
|
|
CU Medallion [64593]
TigerPulse: 100%
Posts: 88998
Joined: 3/27/01
|
That dealership has NIL and endorsement deals...
May 11, 2023, 2:15 PM
|
|
with several different college and professional athletes.
|
|
|
|
|
|
110%er [5375]
TigerPulse: 100%
Posts: 4039
Joined: 9/26/00
|
That's a dumb question
May 11, 2023, 12:33 PM
|
|
I speak as a 47 year veteran in the marketing, broadcasting and entertainment business. And what you don't understand is businesses care about the star power of an endorser, not what team they're affiliated with. Saying someone from Ohio should have no interest in hiring a spokesperson from Georgia is like saying LeBron James couldn't sell products outside of L.A. And the most savvy advertisers know it's all how you spin their celebrity status.
|
|
|
|
|
|
Legend [16097]
TigerPulse: 100%
Posts: 6060
Joined: 12/11/12
|
No it's absolutely not even close to being the same...
4
May 11, 2023, 12:39 PM
|
|
One is a world-wide superstar NBA player and the other is an OL from UGA.
|
|
|
|
|
|
110%er [5375]
TigerPulse: 100%
Posts: 4039
Joined: 9/26/00
|
Wrong again...
May 11, 2023, 12:43 PM
|
|
... it's all in how the business uses that endorser. Some of our BEST and most profitable endorsers here at iHeartRadio are local talent on local radio stations. I employee one guy who is on air here in Columbia, but is so good on the mic and on camera, that he's used all over the country. Trust me.... IF this was for legit marketing reasons, the owner (or his ad agency) has a plan.
|
|
|
|
|
|
110%er [5513]
TigerPulse: 100%
Posts: 4988
Joined: 10/21/15
|
Re: Wrong again...
May 11, 2023, 1:43 PM
|
|
REACHHHHH
It's none of those things.
|
|
|
|
|
|
CU Guru [1026]
TigerPulse: 100%
Posts: 643
Joined: 1/9/16
|
Guessing that Carter’s Star Power
May 11, 2023, 2:25 PM
[ in reply to That's a dumb question ] |
|
Is now past its use-by date.
|
|
|
|
|
|
Orange Blooded [4024]
TigerPulse: 100%
Posts: 4317
Joined: 10/6/03
|
That’s total BS
2
May 11, 2023, 2:49 PM
[ in reply to That's a dumb question ] |
|
Not sure what type of marketing you were doing, but you would go broke if you really marketed like that.
Have you heard of segmentation and target marketing?
If they had a national market with a super star with national appeal I might buy your logic.
This is a freaking car dealership in Ohio. No one knew that guy till he wrecked their car.
|
|
|
|
|
|
110%er [5375]
TigerPulse: 100%
Posts: 4039
Joined: 9/26/00
|
Re: That’s total BS
May 12, 2023, 10:21 AM
|
|
HAHAHA
|
|
|
|
|
|
Legend [15749]
TigerPulse: 100%
Posts: 17372
Joined: 2/1/99
|
|
|
|
|
|
110%er [5014]
TigerPulse: 84%
Posts: 3843
Joined: 12/29/16
|
Re: Why would a car dealership in Ohio have any reason to have an NIL deal with a UGA player?
May 11, 2023, 2:55 PM
|
|
Who in the heck buys a car at a certain dealership because they bought a college athlete. Heck , when DJ was paid by bojangles, it seemed dumb to me. Seems like it’s either dirty intentions, or just being dumb with advertising dollars. Probably the dirty intentions
|
|
|
|
|
|
MVP [537]
TigerPulse: 95%
Posts: 796
Joined: 10/20/21
|
Re: Why would a car dealership in Ohio have any reason to have an NIL deal with a UGA player?
May 11, 2023, 3:50 PM
|
|
I think we are going to find out there is a lot of shady business going on about this car deal. I could see someone in GA providing expensive cars to lineman to show other kids what starting lineman drive at UGA.
So the highschool kids comes to Athens and his teammates drive him around in the car he will get when he sign with GA. Why Ohio? because they gave whoever is paying the best deal.
Feels like it's not an nil deal. Feels like it's something else, run through a loose nil system.
|
|
|
|
|
|
Oculus Spirit [93703]
TigerPulse: 100%
Posts: 95436
Joined: 12/25/09
|
Half of Ohioans are from Michigan.
1
May 11, 2023, 4:28 PM
|
|
More than half the population in Ohio says 'Anyone but Ohio State!'
|
|
|
|
|
|
110%er [6474]
TigerPulse: 100%
Posts: 10128
Joined: 11/2/03
|
Re: Why would a car dealership in Ohio have any reason to have an NIL deal with a UGA player?
May 11, 2023, 6:00 PM
|
|
Might be surprised. My cousin lives in Ohio and says a bunch of barking idiots up there.
|
|
|
|
|
|
Freshman [-95]
TigerPulse: 60%
Posts: 588
Joined: 4/16/23
|
The NCAA has left the building. Gonna take a new governing body to lead the 4 conferences
May 11, 2023, 6:29 PM
|
|
Kind of an NFL model
4 conferences
- 3 divisions in each conference
-- division
---wild cards
---> College "super bowl" playoffs.
Done deal, almost.
|
|
|
|
|
|
All-In [31315]
TigerPulse: 100%
Posts: 9128
Joined: 8/31/15
|
Re: Why would a car dealership in Ohio have any reason to have an NIL deal with a UGA player?
May 12, 2023, 10:24 AM
|
|
Welllll that’s a loaded question but in the end no matter the reason it will kill the sport.
And screw the idiots that came up with this madness;
we can do better than this.
|
|
|
|
|
|
Orange Blooded [3663]
TigerPulse: 51%
Posts: 2388
Joined: 4/12/01
|
Re: Why would a car dealership in Ohio have any reason to have an NIL deal with a UGA player?
May 12, 2023, 10:27 AM
|
|
This is what is going on unfortunately
|
|
|
|
|
|
Replies: 36
| visibility 1
|
|
|
50
