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Why should Clemson, or any other school, be expected to pay
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Why should Clemson, or any other school, be expected to pay


Aug 4, 2023, 7:31 AM

More in exit fees - averaged per year - than the contract pays them per year? There must have been some figures presented that have not materialized and to pay more to get out than what you are making seems like extortion to me.

But, I wouldn't have signed the stoopid thing to start with.

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John 3:16; 14:1-6


Clemson made a bad business decision, likely exacerbated by poor legal counsel.***

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Aug 4, 2023, 8:00 AM



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Re: Clemson made a bad business decision, likely exacerbated by poor legal counsel.***

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Aug 4, 2023, 8:08 AM

Well we are tied to the stupid decisions by the ACC to sign a 20 year deal at a time when college football is obviously changing… while the sec and big 10 signed 7 and 10 year deals I believe , which with the environment of college football and the money is a lot smarter to not be bound long term …. Just add it to the long list of stupidly from the ACC unfortunately

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Re: Clemson made a bad business decision, likely exacerbated by poor legal counsel.***

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Aug 4, 2023, 8:25 AM

The SEC deal is only 2 years shorter than the ACC.

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Every university President had opportunity not to


Aug 4, 2023, 8:32 AM [ in reply to Re: Clemson made a bad business decision, likely exacerbated by poor legal counsel.*** ]

Sign it. You can’t lay the blame for this all on the ACC. Each school signed it! Now somehow e are hoping those same leaders are gonna fix it. 🙄 Maybe they learned something from this last debacle but who knows? 🤷‍♂️

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Re: Clemson made a bad business decision, likely exacerbated by poor legal counsel.***


Aug 6, 2023, 11:55 AM [ in reply to Re: Clemson made a bad business decision, likely exacerbated by poor legal counsel.*** ]

Clemson leadership voted twice for the Grant of Rights. This crap of blaming someone else (Swofford, UNC,the lawyers) for what we do not like is convenient, but we voted YES and signed off on the GOR.

POGO....."We have met the enemy and he is us."

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Re: Clemson made a bad business decision, likely exacerbated by poor legal counsel.***


Aug 6, 2023, 11:57 AM [ in reply to Re: Clemson made a bad business decision, likely exacerbated by poor legal counsel.*** ]

We signed it…

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+1 for "exacerbated". Spelled correctly AND even used in

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Aug 4, 2023, 8:15 AM [ in reply to Clemson made a bad business decision, likely exacerbated by poor legal counsel.*** ]

a sentence like you kinda sorta knew what it means. SALUTE!

:)

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Would Clemson or any other member being going walkabout...


Aug 4, 2023, 8:07 AM

for only a year?

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Re: Would Clemson or any other member being going walkabout...


Aug 4, 2023, 8:34 AM

Clemson signed the contract, they could have said no. Don’t put all of the blame on the ACC for schools making bad decisions.

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I think it was just short sightedness

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Aug 4, 2023, 8:33 AM

At the time the ACC had just lost Maryland to the B1G and the focus was on the risk that was right in front of them, poaching, and not on the potential long term risks. Swofford was hailed as a hero for “securing the future of the conference” by pushing through such a strong GOR that made it so punitive and impossible to leave. The problem with such a strong GOR is you have to have a lot of confidence in the abilities of the folks leading the conference that you’re tied to; obviously Swofford and his cronies were incompetent. Honestly we had plenty of evidence before signing the GOR to tell us that we couldn’t count on the decision making of ACC leadership.

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Sadly you are correct, but the schools still had the


Aug 4, 2023, 8:36 AM

Option to not sign up for the media deal’s terms and they did it anyway.

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You’re right I view the GOR in the same way I do the other


Aug 4, 2023, 8:44 AM

Huge problem impacting CFP; legalized recruiting inducements through NIL. There are significant issues with NIL, but when you add to it unrestricted transfers and the portal it becomes catastrophic. Likewise signing such a restrictive GOR was a bit risky, but if we had not also agreed to such a clearly idiotic term on the TV contract the ACC probably would have survived.

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Re: Sadly you are correct, but the schools still had the


Aug 4, 2023, 10:45 AM [ in reply to Sadly you are correct, but the schools still had the ]

What was our option if we didn't sign?

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We signed the horrible agreement. Blame our former administration


Aug 4, 2023, 10:49 AM

Just as much as the ACC.

I do believe you’re on to something and we can work around the GoR. It’s just going to cost us a lot of money.

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