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Trump's plan to end the Russia/Ukraine war in 24 hrs ain't working.
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The real victims in all of this are the Ukrainian people. They are the victims of a brutal, murderous dictator who is on a mission to expand his borders through military conquest, and ultimately (I believe) resturn to something resembling the former USSR.
Ignoring that, and pretending anything else, is a weak, cowardly position. It's a lie. What's even worse is pushing the blame to Ukraine for not rolling over and accepting Putin's violent expansionism in order to bring an end to the war so that Trump can say that HE did bring an end to the war.
I understand that some concessions by Ukraine will probably ultimately be part of any solution, but making Ukraine the bad guy here and treating their leader like he just needs to shut up and let the big boys handle it . . . is abhorant on every level, and it's alarming to see how this has unfolded to this point. I mean, could Trump pull some rabbit out of a hat and bring this thing to an end that allows Ukraine to reclaim some of it's land and exist as a sovereign nation with the full support of the U.S.? I guess, but shamefully, I see no indication of that whatsoever. What I see is is a NYC real estate mogul who fires regular people on TV like some kind of big shot, who is in over his head dealing with bad guys who have nuclear weapons and murder millions without blinking an eye.
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Re: Trump's plan to end the Russia/Ukraine war in 24 hrs ain't working.
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Let me help. Here’s the solution to ongoing hostilities in the UKR / RUS war, which during the 2024 presidential campaign Trump predicted that he’d end on ‘day one’:
Lock him up.
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Or just say NO to Putin and using war as a means to expand borders.
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Aug 17, 2025, 10:49 AM
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Some wars are worth fighting or supporting.
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Some context about the larger situation is in order
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The following is largely a repost of another response to another poster.
Trump’s decision to meet in person with the leader of a foreign country that is not at war with America was smart. While it is not common for two heads of state that are openly at war with each other is, to my knowledge, extremely rare, doing what Trump did on Friday was as a third party diplomat.
Sidebar: Jimmy Carter played the role of international peacemaker (Israel vs Egypt); Egypt was not a ‘benign, pro-America’ back then, yet an American president engaged in diplomacy for an interest that was not explicitly an American interest. Back then, many Americans derided Carter as being a weakling for his central role in negotiating peace.
OK, back to Trump. He was the least bellicose among the leaders of various NATO countries that have lent material support to Ukraine, especially considering that other UKR supporters (which are far more bellicose than T-47’s America) are little more than yapping Chihuahuas.
The other NATO members had already revealed their commitment to undercutting peace deals. This is understandable, since, prior to Nov.2024, NATO’s non-USA members had ridiculed America (back during T-45 admin) for America’s (specifically, Trump-45’s) demands that the others cough their un-coerced, pre-agreed funding of NATO commitments. However, when the concern that war against our deadbeat NATO ‘partners’ started to worry them about their own flaccid defenses, they suddenly become brave about NATO participating in war (as usual, with their willingness to expend American blood and treasure).
Furthermore, one of the two most bellicose EU based NATO powers (France) is facing a real risk of sovereign insolvency. UK is the other biggest pro-war NATO country. UK also has sovereign finance problems, although there is no short term risk of sovereign insolubility, thanks to having kept out of the Euro currency matter.). That both UK and France are among the EU NATO countries that are farthest away from Russia has no bearing on their disproportionately high bellicosity. (Sarcasm meter is off the charts.)
France especially, but also UK to some degree (and also, strictly from a sovereign finance perspective, Germany) need the UKR / RUS war to keep going. Their respective populations are facing big cuts in govt funded social services; the Euro and Gilt are getting weaker vis a vis the U.S. dollar; more deficit spending will make inflation worse. The ‘war requires us to bear even higher levels of deficit spending’ narrative will help UK, Germany, and (especially) France justify huge new issuances of debt to fund deficit spending. To summarize, the big boys in the EU’s NATO countries need war.
That NATO’s EU big shots met with Zelenskyy two days before Zelenskyy was to have his in-person meeting with Trump back in the late winter … and with Zelenskyy totally changing course as far as what he had pre-agreed before the in person with Trump meeting … reeked of the EU’s NATO big countries ‘advising’ Zelenskyy to completely change his upcoming conversation with Trump away from exhibiting a willingness to do the ‘rare earth’ minerals deal with America and to signal a willingness to possibly meet with Putin.
(*). After the EU NATO countries did this, they forfeited their privilege to be included in sensitive talks between America and Russia.
(*). That Zelenskyy did as the EU NATO powers told him to do when the late winter pre-Trump meeting was to take place disqualified Zelenskyy as being much more than a puppet of the EU’s NATO big boys.
(***). Going forward with the (non-diplomacy) route that Biden had done was going to either lead to increasingly faster loss if UKR territory (this is the current condition in the war) or a medium risk of a ‘tactical weapons’ nuclear conflict between some NATO countries and Russia. To suggest the latter scenario is ridiculous is, in itself, ridiculous. Russia will not sit idly by and abide NATO upping the ante in UKR, especially since NATO (pre-T-47) had openly stated their end game as being regime change in Russia. Is anyone on TNet so naive to think that Putin won’t use tactical nukes if he feels sufficiently threatened by NATO?
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Orange Immortal [67932]
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There was a ton of context when Japan bombed Pearl Harbor.
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Aug 17, 2025, 2:37 PM
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But once they did that, it didn't matter; they crossed a line that demanded a response, and they were on the wrong side of history.
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Re: There was a ton of context when Japan bombed Pearl Harbor.
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Aug 17, 2025, 5:47 PM
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Let me know when Putin bombs Pearl Harbor.
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You're getting embarrassed in this discussion***
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Re: Some context about the larger situation is in order
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"Trump’s decision to meet in person with the leader of a foreign country that is not at war with America was smart. While it is not common for two heads of state that are openly at war with each other is, to my knowledge, extremely rare, doing what Trump did on Friday was as a third party diplomat."
This really says nothing. "I think Trump is smart." We know.
"Sidebar: Jimmy Carter played the role of international peacemaker (Israel vs Egypt); Egypt was not a ‘benign, pro-America’ back then, yet an American president engaged in diplomacy for an interest that was not explicitly an American interest. Back then, many Americans derided Carter as being a weakling for his central role in negotiating peace."
Yes...this is also irrelevant.
"OK, back to Trump. He was the least bellicose among the leaders of various NATO countries that have lent material support to Ukraine, especially considering that other UKR supporters (which are far more bellicose than T-47’s America) are little more than yapping Chihuahuas."
This is a silly characterization of the European leaders. None of them want war. They would all be extremely happy if Russia returned to their country and never invaded another country again. They do not, however, live in La La Land, and they do not, unfortunately, have the luxury of giant oceans protecting them.
"The other NATO members had already revealed their commitment to undercutting peace deals. This is understandable, since, prior to Nov.2024, NATO’s non-USA members had ridiculed America (back during T-45 admin) for America’s (specifically, Trump-45’s) demands that the others cough their un-coerced, pre-agreed funding of NATO commitments."
How does your second sentence make your first sentence "Understandable"? And other NATO members, again, do not want to undercut peace. They want true peace...which will not come from giving up multiple regions of Ukraine to a belligerent aggressor. Not in Europe, not in Asia, not in the Middle East. It will send a very clear signal...we, the collective West, are weak, and will take a knee.
"However, when the concern that war against our deadbeat NATO ‘partners’ started to worry them about their own flaccid defenses, they suddenly become brave about NATO participating in war (as usual, with their willingness to expend American blood and treasure).""
What? Man. Take a break. You're all over the place. You don't know where to put your talking points. So...when they started to get concerned about going to war, they became more brazen about wanting war?
As an aside, do you know how much more money Europe has provided in aid to Ukraine than America did? Or do you just hear Trump say "$350 billion from the U.S." and believe him?
https://www.ifw-kiel.de/topics/war-against-ukraine/ukraine-support-tracker/
"Furthermore, one of the two most bellicose EU based NATO powers (France) is facing a real risk of sovereign insolvency. UK is the other biggest pro-war NATO country. UK also has sovereign finance problems, although there is no short term risk of sovereign insolubility, thanks to having kept out of the Euro currency matter.). That both UK and France are among the EU NATO countries that are farthest away from Russia has no bearing on their disproportionately high bellicosity. (Sarcasm meter is off the charts.)
France especially, but also UK to some degree (and also, strictly from a sovereign finance perspective, Germany) need the UKR / RUS war to keep going. Their respective populations are facing big cuts in govt funded social services; the Euro and Gilt are getting weaker vis a vis the U.S. dollar; more deficit spending will make inflation worse. The ‘war requires us to bear even higher levels of deficit spending’ narrative will help UK, Germany, and (especially) France justify huge new issuances of debt to fund deficit spending. To summarize, the big boys in the EU’s NATO countries need war.""
Where did you get this talking point? This is absurd. So, the UK and France need the war because they are broke, even though both of them have less debt to GDP than the U.S., who doesn't need the war? So, the UK and France are more bellicose about supporting Ukraine because they are farther from the front line, but America is striving for peace despite there being an ocean between us and the war? And France and UK aren't MORE bellicose about supporting Ukraine. The Baltics, Finland and Czech Republic are all very supportive...because they don't want Russia invading them. You just hear France and UK and Germany more because their countries have a position of leadership in Europe.
"That NATO’s EU big shots met with Zelenskyy two days before Zelenskyy was to have his in-person meeting with Trump back in the late winter … and with Zelenskyy totally changing course as far as what he had pre-agreed before the in person with Trump meeting … reeked of the EU’s NATO big countries ‘advising’ Zelenskyy to completely change his upcoming conversation with Trump away from exhibiting a willingness to do the ‘rare earth’ minerals deal with America and to signal a willingness to possibly meet with Putin.
(*). After the EU NATO countries did this, they forfeited their privilege to be included in sensitive talks between America and Russia.
(*). That Zelenskyy did as the EU NATO powers told him to do when the late winter pre-Trump meeting was to take place disqualified Zelenskyy as being much more than a puppet of the EU’s NATO big boys."
All nonsense. You assume things to fit your narrative, and place significance on them that does not exist. Maybe what you said happened...but you don't know. Zelenskyy set off the man baby in the Oval by mentioning security guarantees. Is it possible that EU leaders put that in his head and held him to it? I guess. Zelenskyy has never NOT asked for security guarantees, but I'm sure they were the ones that held him up to it. But regardless, to call it "totally changing course" seems absurd. I don't recall Zelenskyy saying he was not willing to do a rare earth deal with Trump. Only that he wanted it to have some teeth. He'd be a moron not to want that.
Regardless, the EU NATO countries, even if they did do this, forfeit nothing. There's no one over there working behind Trump's back. I highly doubt the idea came from anyone but Zelenskyy himself but even if it did, I have no doubt that the EU leaders are saying the same thing to Trump anyway.
And your comment about Zelenskyy being disqualified is just ridiculous. Zelenskyy is fighting for his country. He didn't do what Europeans said to do because that's what they wanted him to do. He did what was right for Ukraine. That is exactly what qualifies him to lead that country.
Of Trump, Putin and Zelenskyy, only two of them constantly say they are going to do one thing and then do another. They're the ones in the suits.
"(***). Going forward with the (non-diplomacy) route that Biden had done was going to either lead to increasingly faster loss if UKR territory (this is the current condition in the war) or a medium risk of a ‘tactical weapons’ nuclear conflict between some NATO countries and Russia. To suggest the latter scenario is ridiculous is, in itself, ridiculous. Russia will not sit idly by and abide NATO upping the ante in UKR, especially since NATO (pre-T-47) had openly stated their end game as being regime change in Russia. Is anyone on TNet so naive to think that Putin won’t use tactical nukes if he feels sufficiently threatened by NATO?"
The use of tactical nukes has been declared a red line, which is should be. The idea of using nuclear weapons in a war of conquest should result in immediate attack on Russia and elimination of the Putin government.
Okay Danny...appreciate the effort for what it's worth. We have seen Putin making the statement that Ukraine does not have a right to exist. We know that Russians are in Transnistria. We know that many a Moscow mouth piece has made reference to former USSR countries having no right to sovereignty. Chechnya fought two wars against Russia to try to become a free country. They lost. And now Chechnyan soldiers are fighting Ukrainians. Whatever part of Ukraine goes to Russia will do the same. And so on and so forth. The real naivete is the idea that a country that has started numerous wars over the past few decades, and taken the land, is going to stop with these Ukrainian regions.
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Re: Trump's plan to end the Russia/Ukraine war in 24 hrs ain't working.
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I know he's terrible. Only if he could of stopped the war from starting. If he would of had 3 years to end it.
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Trump is getting worked. Hes a fool who thought he had some
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special relationship with Putin. As if Putin respected him. But nothing Putin has done indicates that Putin sees Trump as anything but a useful idiot…someone whose insecurities and ego can be exploited to continue Putin’s war. Once again, the rhetoric is laughable…before the meeting, Trump was going to inflict heavy penalties if he got no cease fire. After the meeting, when he got nothing, it’s just into the next meeting with zero penalties. Leadership at its weakest.
The Russian media is having a blast showing US military members taping down a red carpet on their knees for the President of Russia. The President of the United States clapping like a fan boy as the President of Russia approaches him. Embarrassment after embarrassment.
And watch when Zelenskyy comes to visit. Red carpet? Of course not. Respectful tones? Please. He’ll be lucky if he’s allowed a bagged lunch as he’s kicked out. Because Trump doesn’t respect western and American ideals. He respects perceived Strong Men. Because his insecurities draw him to it.
Pathetic.
And his supporters who claim he’s trying to save lives - keep telling yourselves that, as his actions only result in more death and a more dangerous world. As he continues to embolden the most dangerous countries. Lee telling yourselves he’s trying to save lives like Trump his being altruistic and not just continuously trying to find more glory for himself, consequences be ######.
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Re: Trump is getting worked. Hes a fool who thought he had some
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See my above post.
Zelenskyy forfeited his legitimacy as a credible negotiations entity back in late winter 2025.
Ditto for the leaders of NATO’s EU powers.
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You have to work really hard to make Trump not look like a fool in this
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case. Now, if next week they announce that the war is over, Putin has agreed to give some of the land back to Ukraine and acknowlegde that Ukraine is a sovereign nation, I will applaud Trump. Anything else is a victory for Putin and a loss for Trump and everybody else. Simply having Ukraine surrender would be pathetic.
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Re: You have to work really hard to make Trump not look like a fool in this
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The subject and its recent history is not simple. Myopic views prevent an understanding of what is going on.
Below, I’ll (largely) repost another response in another poster who initiated a string in this subject. This is also a long response.
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A big aspect of the Trump / Putin meeting was to calm down the increasingly apocalyptic narratives and concurrent displays of mutually destructive -&- global annihilative forces.
Russia is one of only two (maybe P.R.China possesses the scale to be the third) world powers that, by themselves, have the power to end human life on Earth.
The pre-T-47 ‘diplomatic’ approach from the USA was raw political bluster. ‘Tough guy’ Joe Biden was made to look to be the impotent POTUS back in 2022 that was eventually understood by all of America by summer 2024. Incredibly, the Biden Handlers Admin couldn’t bring themselves to see that Biden’s gradually escalating ‘regime change’ talk, combined with gradually emboldened gifts of higher and higher quality weaponry to Ukraine, was not going to be passively accepted by Russia.
The Biden Handlers Admin (BHA), their idiots in the Mainstream Propaganda Networks, and the 25% of TDS sheep became emboldened by their own narratives, and failed to consider that Russia … which had not replied militarily to America’s & the EU’s escalations … was not going to sit around passively and let the regime change take place. As for Russia being naive enough to imagine that America & EU should be trusted to just let bygones be bygones if Russia were to both (1) withdraw back to pre-2022 boundaries -&- (2) give Crimea back to Ukraine, Russia had zero reason to believe that America & EU promises would be kept. After all, starting immediately after the USSR gave up domination of the Eastern Block countries in exchange for promises from America to never support eastward expansion of NATO, America, joined later by the EU, started with the eastward expansion of NATO almost immediately. Put bluntly, America’s diplomatic promises to matters of highest importance to Russia (after dissolution of the USSR, proved to be worthless to Russia.
America’s status as a responsible world power (one of just two [maybe three, if PRC is to be counted) has been reasserted since T-47’s inauguration. That does not mean that Russia’s ~30+ years concerns about NATO’s ill intentions + increasingly militant rhetoric has just melted away. Nuclear war should never be dismissed as a real risk by embarrassed-by-BHA’s foreign policy failures / TDSers, no matter how emotionally whacked out they are about Trump.
Avoiding a multi-nation nuclear war is actually T-47’s most important mission with regards to his in-person presence during the diplomatic meeting with Putin. The secondary factor (peace deal for UKR / RUS war) is important for ending the carnage, but also because the war is of central importance as a factor that could lead to a multi-country nuclear exchange. (I’m still aghast that world history know-nothings trust their own ‘brilliant’ intuitions in ‘knowing’ that a limited nuclear conflict would NEVER escalate into a nuclear war of mutual destruction between RUS and EU + USA. )
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Diplomatic solutions to ending war between two passionate combatants is seldom a fast or easy task. The difficulty of the diplomatic solution route is made much more complicated when the fundamentally stronger combatant is trending at a quickening (albeit still, at this stage, not ‘rapid’ yet) pace towards full military victory over the fundamentally weaker combatant. I realize that your ‘next week’ parameter as the demarcation between a success vs failure in the peace negotiations is intentional hyperbole on your behalf, so that part of your post does not need to be belabored. That negotiations must be successfully resolved within X period of time are beyond what Trump can pull off; as long as Zelenskyy marches to the orders if his NATO EU handlers, then Zelenskyy is little more than a ceremonial negotiator. If the NATO EU big boys don’t agree (refer to the sovereign financial pickle that UK, Germany, and [especially] France are in), then there won’t be peace. To Trump’s credit, he is playing the game with what few cards he has left (in the aftermath of the EU’s & Zelenskyy’s theatrics back in late winter did to ruin his better cards) and, at least, has (allegedly, as of Sunday PM) gotten Putin to reveal some genuine ‘give ups’ as gestures of sincere negotiations. Things are moving forward. Whether the touchdown gets scored or if we have to punt again, it’s too early to tell.
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What have you watched in all of this that makes you think
Aug 18, 2025, 8:03 AM
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"T-47" (what a stupid nickname for Trump) is doing anything strategic here?
Everyone privy to that meeting and the reports from it say Putin walked in and absolutely handed Trump his ###.
Trump is a weak, pitiful president.
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The fact the administration can't even leak what was discussed
Aug 18, 2025, 8:09 AM
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is very telling in that nothing went the way of Trump.
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Trump finally is learning what the rest of the world
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knew 3 years ago.
Now that he is finally up to speed, maybe something will happen. However, Trump favors Putin over Ukraine, so I’m doubtful.
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Re: Trump finally is learning what the rest of the world
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What was the aversion within Biden Handlers Administration to making the adjustment after Ukraine’s vaunted Summer 2023 Counteroffensive failed? Although it may not have been clear to many American people (thanks to endless ‘Ukraine will win and Putin will be deposed because Ukraine’s cause is just’ narrative), it was clear to honest (credentialed) military analysts and even some podcasters (those that did multiple daily war updates) that Ukraine had shot its bolt, and (very unfortunately) didn’t succeed.
Ukraine was not going to win (recover the territory that had been lost as of October 2023) and neither was Putin any longer at risk of being deposed (remember the Wagner Group’s march on Moscow? The one that ended with Wagner Group’s leader … after he called off the ‘march on Moscow’ … had that ‘unlucky’ death when his airplane blew up?).
It was over at that point. Ongoing war was only going to lead to more territorial losses for Ukraine and bleeding out of their fighting age men. I can hardly bring myself to believe that America’s military intelligence apparatus did not know everything that I just wrote above. Even with DoD’s incalcitrant stupidity to not get moving on a competitive military drone program, I cannot bring myself to believe that they actually thought Ukraine could ‘win’ without major escalation in our military aid -and- larger presence of American military advisors (I.e., military people who actually run the satellite targeting equipment to attack Russian forces … Ukrainian soldiers hit the ‘go’ button after the targets are zeroed in so that the Americans could claim that we didn’t commit any hostile acts.
So, instead of course adjustment and starting with diplomatic endeavors, Biden Handlers Admin chose escalation and simultaneously inflaming tactical nuke talk.
Sooo … 20 months ago Biden Admin chose to double down. The result has been further deterioration (at an accelerated rate) for Ukraine’s prospects, a politically secure Putin regime, and inflamed nuclear war scenarios.
Summary: Biden’s handlers chose the approach of a child; I’m right and will lose everything before I give in. Wishful thinking is not a strategy. Trump is picking up the chicken manure left to him by Biden admin and trying to make chicken salad. Even the TDSers should be grateful that Trump has established open lines of communications with Russia. Biden admin could have done this, but chose not to.
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And he has nothing to show for it.
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Putin has made Trump his B!tch. Remember when he lied to you morons that he would end it on day one, and you idiots lapped it up? Hilarious.
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Why dont you take matters into your own hands.***
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Hey, you never answered me. How was the U.S./Mexico border
Aug 17, 2025, 1:53 PM
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when you went down there to defend it?
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It's great, check the numbers. I demand the U.S. protect OUR BORDER.***
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Why don't you, big tough guy?
Aug 18, 2025, 2:53 PM
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Go suit up on the border or go join the NG and help out with DC.
Since you want to use this tired idiotic right wing response. Y'all always wanna b!tch and moan about everything but when someone else points out a problem, y'all always say, "DErp dERp whY dOn't yOu dO sOmethInG!?!"
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Paw Master [17392]
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No, according to Keowee, only people with opposing views have to "put
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up or shut up." He can continue his keyboard warrior ways.
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Re: Trump waiting for Zelensky to end the war. LOL
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Just quit fighting, let the rape happen and it will be over sooner. I wonder how many 16 year olds Trump has given this advice to?
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Re: Trump's plan to end the Russia/Ukraine war in 24 hrs ain't working.
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There was never a plan, just boastful talking
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Re: Trump's plan to end the Russia/Ukraine war in 24 hrs ain't working.
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I’m glad the US had the chance to roll out a red carpet for a Soviet autocrat on our home turf though
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My Uber driver Friday noted how small the red carpet was compared to Trumps
Aug 18, 2025, 3:19 PM
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And how that made Trump look like such a badass though.
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I don't recall what was done to try to actually stop the war during the Biden
Aug 18, 2025, 6:00 PM
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Admin. I'm sure attempts were made at mediation - but I may have forgotten them, or they didn't get very far.
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Re: More praise, again, don't shoot the messenger
Aug 18, 2025, 8:08 PM
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Does this mean thermonukular warfare with Russia is off the table?
....or is there still some hope left???
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Re: More praise, again, don't shoot the messenger
Aug 18, 2025, 8:46 PM
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The competent are in control again and cooler heads have prevailed. Zelensky and those crazed Euro trash leaders sure did try to get us there though.
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Where are we? Aren't they still blowing each other up?
Aug 19, 2025, 12:46 PM
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How are they any better off today than they were a week ago? I haven't heard about Russia pulling any troops back, have you?
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Yes, the book is out on how to handle DJT. If you want to leverage the the
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Aug 19, 2025, 1:25 PM
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economic and military power of the United States of America for the next couple years, the first barrier to entry is sufficiently buttering up the ego of our 79 year old man-baby President. Our foreign policy is dictated by how much you kiss-up to him and if you give him gifts.
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They're just doing the usual, "We have to show flattery for him to not hate us."
Aug 19, 2025, 4:27 PM
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That's an old routine people use to make Trump feel good. In terms of actual facts on the ground, it's meaningless.
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It was extremely cringey how they went around the table and told Trump how
Aug 19, 2025, 4:31 PM
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awesome he was. Definitely a planned action on their part.
No matter who our leader is - the know they need the US.
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