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You people dont know what you have
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You people dont know what you have

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Nov 2, 2025, 2:55 PM
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I’m embarrassed at the lack of appreciation shown here for the man who brought two national titles to Clemson. Furthermore he loves Clemson. He is graduating players and loves being a great role model in that effort. He’s not only the winningest coach in Clemson history but also in the ACC.
I’m frustrated too. I hate losing. But give him time to adapt to the changes and challenges before him. Lane Kiffen can’t coach everyone everywhere but how many national championships has he won; much less at Clemson.
Have some loyalty and commitment. Some on here complain how 18 year olds no longer take commitments seriously when we as a fan base are doing even worse in that regard.
Give him a chance to make this right. It’s not helping getting on here criticizing his efforts, coaches, staff and some even his family. We are Clemson and we’re better than this.
Put the pitchforks and the torches away. There’s nobody out there to take this program from here and make it successful again. Let’s be the exception and give a coach a chance. If losing every year becomes a trend then I understand but one bad, very bad year does not represent a trend.

Go Tigers 🐅

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Nov 2, 2025, 2:56 PM
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We know what we had and we know what we have. There is a difference…

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Nov 2, 2025, 3:00 PM
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Why did we have it?

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Nov 2, 2025, 3:03 PM
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Being grateful for the past and doing what’s best for the future are also two different things. It’s why we don’t have lifetime contracts.

I don’t know if you are in business but no one cares about past results; they only care about the here and now.

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But plenty of people here would have gladly given Dabo a lifetime contract.

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Nov 2, 2025, 3:30 PM
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Scary.

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Re: But plenty of people here would have gladly given Dabo a lifetime contract.

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Nov 2, 2025, 4:13 PM
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They still believe he should have a lifetime contract.

We could have losing seasons every year until 2031, when his contract expires, and they wouldn’t care.

We can’t fire Dabo. Ever.

According to them.

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Re: But plenty of people here would have gladly given Dabo a lifetime contract.

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Nov 2, 2025, 4:22 PM [ in reply to But plenty of people here would have gladly given Dabo a lifetime contract. ]
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Scary.


IKR...

It's like how Brownell keep getting extensions...

Despite never winning anything...

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Re: But plenty of people here would have gladly given Dabo a lifetime contract.

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Nov 2, 2025, 4:40 PM
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🤣

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Nov 2, 2025, 4:10 PM [ in reply to Re: You people dont know what you have ]
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People are being completely ungrateful and nasty to Coach Swinney.

The insane thing is he’s the entire reason they think they are entitled to championships every year.

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Nov 2, 2025, 4:37 PM
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Not really. At major SEC programs the toxicity would be multitudes higher than it is at Clemson.

CDS has it really good at Clemson and it is perfectly normal for people to be asking questions. There are always outliers… Fans on the fringe… But all in all Clemson has one of the best if not the best fan bases and administrations in the country. Both are now asking needed questions.

The appreciation shown is via the contract. The issue is not with the fan base. It’s not with the Tigernet and it certainly isn’t with the administration. It is within….. here’s hoping he figures it out.

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Nov 2, 2025, 4:45 PM [ in reply to Re: You people dont know what you have ]
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Okay Kathleen….

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Nov 2, 2025, 5:20 PM [ in reply to Re: You people dont know what you have ]
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If he gets credit for the good he gets the heat for the bad

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Nov 2, 2025, 3:06 PM [ in reply to Re: You people dont know what you have ]
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2 generational QB’s and Brent Venables.

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Nov 2, 2025, 4:09 PM
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Hmmm… and how did they end up here?

Just dumb luck?

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Nov 2, 2025, 4:55 PM [ in reply to Re: You people dont know what you have ]
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Correct.. then Dabo takes the wheel and here we are

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where has it gone?***


Nov 2, 2025, 3:08 PM [ in reply to Re: You people dont know what you have ]
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Why did we have it?


Nov 2, 2025, 3:32 PM [ in reply to Re: You people dont know what you have ]
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Well, why did we lose it?

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John 3:16; 14:1-6


I think the answer to your question, which is good , is threefold.


Nov 2, 2025, 5:07 PM [ in reply to Re: You people dont know what you have ]
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First, Dabo was younger and had a fire for the job.
Second, he was good at bringing in good coaches.
Third, he was a great recruiter who could create relationships with players and their families.

The questions now are, "Are any of those relevant anymore?" And if not, will Dabo adapt?

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define "give him time".......it's been 5 years so far...how much more time?

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Nov 2, 2025, 2:57 PM
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to clarify I don't think he should be fired THIS year.

This year should be ULTIMATUM year from Neff/BOT.

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Nov 2, 2025, 2:59 PM
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"But give him time to adapt to the changes and challenges before him"

The times changed in 2020. He's had 5 years to adapt. I am not in the "Fire Dabo" camp, but i don't have faith that he will do all the major changes needed.

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Nov 2, 2025, 2:59 PM
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We do. A 3-5 football team that’s probably not going to be any better next year

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Nov 2, 2025, 3:00 PM
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What do you mean, “you people”?

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Nov 2, 2025, 3:03 PM
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He was a great coach. Whatever he had clearly no longer exists. This is the worst team to take the field in our history. An embarrassment to all the fans and teams that have come before it. Pathetic insult to the school.

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Nov 2, 2025, 4:42 PM
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Maybe in your history. Not even close in my history.

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At no time in history has Clemson had such high expectations and been this bad

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Nov 2, 2025, 4:55 PM
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Ever.

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Nov 2, 2025, 3:05 PM
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Amen. Very well said, and I could not agree more. Thank you

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Nov 2, 2025, 3:13 PM
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We are on the path of putting our 2 ....2 star players against 8 or 9 ...5 star players that are paid or not. We are not going to be able to continue to compete with that with these current rules. No one coach can do it all.....it has to come from other sources to make it truly fair.

We had a legitimate playoff system in place and those whining A-holes .. most from the SEC and a few from the Big Ten wanted more playoff spots..... basically just for them. It wasn't like that before.... thus the reason for Dabo's complacency and giving heart to hire inexperienced coaches and underdog players to put on this team....to play a game that has all of a sudden spiked tremendously into big business. There is a ton to fix for this administration and we need help from the NCAA to regulate this whole thing for the smaller programs..... which unfortunately includes us too... because our money is not generationally long like other huge programs. We will never get enough bake sales in the community to compete with what is going on right now.

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Nov 2, 2025, 3:25 PM
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Lol , nice diatribe, but I think we know exactly what we have.

Even Dabo knows you can only live off of past success for so long

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Dabo has had nearly five years to adapt to changes in college football.

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Nov 2, 2025, 3:28 PM
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He hasn’t adapted very well.

How much of a chance do you feel he deserves?

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Nov 2, 2025, 4:01 PM
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More than Brownlee that's for sure!

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Nov 2, 2025, 4:46 PM
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woah now! he just needs another 10 years to get his transfers in, and we will be getting to the 2nd round of the tourney in no time!

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Nov 2, 2025, 4:05 PM
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Great post and I believe most Clemson fans believe as you do. It is just a vocal minority who think otherwise.

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Wrong***


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Nov 2, 2025, 4:28 PM [ in reply to Re: You people dont know what you have ]
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Actually, Tigernet is the only place where I see the creepy Dabo worship.

The incredibly vocal minority resides here on this website.

The real world and social media doesn’t agree with the Dabo lifers on here.

He’s just a coach. Just a man. And he’s failed the program and its fans.

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Nov 2, 2025, 4:07 PM
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If you have to talk about the past all the time, must be something wrong with the present"

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Nov 2, 2025, 4:09 PM
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We have a coach who will not use all the tools in the shed to make us better, therefore our conference foes have passed us.

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Nov 2, 2025, 4:18 PM
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I'm with you 100%. I'm as frustrated as anyone. Disappointed and angry at this years record. Dabo has made mistakes that have led us here. But I also believe he deserves the chance to remedy them. I know there are a lot of people who will call me "idiot" and worse but I would caution them. Firing a head coach is no guarantee. The next guy might be worse. Odds are he won't win fast enough, pretty enough for most. Then someone else comes in, rinse, repeat. Patience with Dabo should not be endless but he should be given at least a chance.

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The REV says there are three days of grace for the dumping after a loss.


Nov 2, 2025, 4:33 PM
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Arguing with someone so thoughtful and considerate as RevDodd is foolish so I'm not contesting any dumping on Dabo at the present time.

However...

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Nov 2, 2025, 4:38 PM
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He had no problem depositing those big check we paid him for the past In the present 12 million a year plus is robbing Clemson and fans with this pathetic teams performnace

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Nov 2, 2025, 4:48 PM
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no, Brad Brownell is robbing Clemson.....

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Nov 2, 2025, 4:39 PM
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Ok it’s obvious we won’t all agree on this subject. It’s just like the Magats opinion versus my opinion of our current prez. We’ll never agree on that. And I won’t change my mind. Some here will never change their mind either.
I will say I do very much appreciate everything Dabo has done for Clemson and don’t think he should be fired at this time. I do think he loves Clemson and the way he does things IS the way it should be done. Unfortunately, it doesn’t work anymore and he is extremely stubborn. If he really loves Clemson he will do what’s best for Clemson. What’s going on now isn’t what’s best for Clemson. This has absolutely been going on for 5 years and he’s done a few things to make changes but it isn’t near enough.

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Sep 27, 2021, 12:32 PM
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So no other coach in America can make us or take us back to greatness but Dabo ..smh!

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Nov 2, 2025, 4:45 PM
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He’s had his chances, what’s it gonna take to see he’s not the coach of what college football is today, I hate it, I don’t really like where it’s going myself, but hey I’m not getting paid 11 million dollars a year, so play today’s game, coach today’s players, or pack your s**t, he’s had ample time to conform, he hasn’t, fire him now!!! FIRE DABO!! Who cares who replaces him at this point, anyone can go 4-8 in the horrible and I mean worst conference in football, ACC.

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Agreed. The "Clemson family" label has become a joke.***


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Nov 2, 2025, 4:47 PM
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😆😅🤣

GO TIGERS!!!

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Nov 2, 2025, 4:47 PM
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“Give him time to adapt and fix things!!”……

5 years later…….

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Nov 2, 2025, 4:50 PM
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Apparently our coaches dont know what we have..

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Nov 2, 2025, 4:53 PM
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Yeah, I’ve got a team that hasn’t won a power 5 football game at home in more than a year! Only two wins are against Citadel and Troy. That has to be the worst streak in 25+ years! That should never happen at a place like this. Any CEO would be shown the door!

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What Do You Mean "You People"


Nov 2, 2025, 5:00 PM
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https://www.youtube.com/shorts/FBovGIrw20k

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Thanks to the TNET Grammar Police correcting me, I do get an occasional assist with AI to clean up my post. The talking points are mine but my typing, grammar and spelling isn't what it used to be so get a little help to put out a better post.


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Nov 2, 2025, 5:02 PM
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Ridiculous take. This isn't a religion where you have to stay faithful no matter what. Dabo has been VERY generously rewarded for his accomplishments. Do his prior accomplishments also make him immune to criticism? #### no.

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I dont want to fire Dabo


Nov 2, 2025, 5:08 PM
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But I dont have any faith in him anymore. Why should I? He's biggest thing was recruiting. Dabo was a master recruiter. He's not anymore because NIL has drastically changed recruiting. He also isn't coaching the same anymore either. Before he hired quality coaches like Morris and Venables. Now it's friends and family with no experience. He refuses to embrace NIL or the portal. He refuses to adapt. So while id love to see Dabo's legacy end on a high not and he turns it all around, I dont see any logical reason that he can.

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