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Why did Mafah go down?
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Near the end of the game with a 5-point lead... not a 10 or 14 point lead... one score lead.
This was kinda the point where the team offensive "mentality" kinda hit me... we do not know how to close out drives, the half, the game. Let's run out the clock. We kinda did the same thing at the end of the first half in the FSU only on defense... went soft and they scored... how many guys went after Travis on the QB keeper (hint: none, assuming they thought it was stopped)... Travis fell off the bunch and into the end zone...
Mahfa goes for another 7 yards easily, who cares if he goes out of bounds. Run the ball down their throats and impose your will!!!! Can we execute plays or not?
Play to win, to dominate, not to be nice or not screw up...
Have seen this kind of thing too often this year...
You're not rubbing anything in Coach Clausen or Wake's face... do you think if we fumbled and they had a clear scoop and score their guy would go down and they would say, well they were beating us so it seemed like the right thing to do...
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Re: Why did Mafah go down?
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Oct 8, 2023, 8:46 PM
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Someone didn’t watch the Miami game.
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Re: Why did Mafah go down?
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Oct 8, 2023, 10:22 PM
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Maybe Mario watched the Clemson game ...
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Re: Why did Mafah go down?
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Oct 8, 2023, 8:48 PM
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If he wasn't gonna score, it wasn't worth it.
The smart move was to stay in bounds to keep the clock going.
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Re: Why did Mafah go down?
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Oct 8, 2023, 10:23 PM
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tell me how that's "smart" football...
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You posted at 10:23
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Oct 8, 2023, 10:32 PM
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There are plenty of responses explaining that for you.
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Re: Why did Mafah go down?
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Oct 9, 2023, 1:42 PM
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There is no need to score or gain extra yardage and take a chance on getting injured once you get the first down. The game is over at that point so just run the clock out and get out with the win. I really wonder if some of you ever played or know anything about football at all.
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Re: Why did Mafah go down?
Oct 11, 2023, 9:27 AM
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Umm. Get the first down. The clock is a 40 second clock umm....he saved himself from a potential strip tackle. Now we take a knee and the game is over. I thought it was evidence of a player understanding the game and playing very smart. But of course he should've stopped logged into Tnet and got your opinions first, then continued to run. Bye weeks are the worst. We are 4-2 and have 6 guaranteed games remaining. Nothing else is a given enjoy it!
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Re: Why did Mafah go down?
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Oct 8, 2023, 10:35 PM
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I think Wake was out of Time outs and he wanted to keep the clock running. Not a bad move IF Wake was out of time outs.
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Just maybe the scoop and score scenario you
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Oct 8, 2023, 8:49 PM
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mentioned is the reason he went down- play over & no Miami- GT ending?
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He stopped from going out of bounds
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Oct 8, 2023, 8:50 PM
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Another one
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Re: Why did Mafah go down?
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Oct 8, 2023, 8:53 PM
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Is this a real question? When he went down it put us in position to take a knee. It was a smart heads up play.
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Re: Why did Mafah go down?
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Oct 8, 2023, 8:56 PM
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Yes. He was probably told to go down instead of going out of bounds to stop the clock.
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Re: Why did Mafah go down?
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Oct 8, 2023, 9:17 PM
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Agreed. But still execution it to perfection.
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Re: Why did Mafah go down?
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what game were you watching? There was 1:29 left to play and Wake still had timeouts... we were going to run plays either way... it was the next play that we ran some clock but we were still going to have to run at least 2 more plays... so no it does not make sense if we do not think the Charlie Brown black cloud is over this offense.
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Re: Why did Mafah go down?
Oct 8, 2023, 10:35 PM
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You are among the few who think that way.
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Re: Why did Mafah go down?
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Oct 9, 2023, 11:51 AM
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Do you think I posted this because I cannot think for myself? I have yet to read a coherent, well-thought-out, rational response to the contrary... most people thought we could run out the clock and never run another play or we were more than one score ahead... neither of which were true.
Play to the last play.
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Re: Why did Mafah go down?
Oct 11, 2023, 9:29 AM
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Oh like you did when you played D1 ball? Or pro or coached your local pee-wee squad. Stick to your career profession and live RB to Mafah and Shipley. Have a good day.
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To keep the clock running; the smart
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Oct 8, 2023, 8:53 PM
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thing to do.
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Re: Why did Mafah go down?
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Oct 8, 2023, 8:54 PM
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It was actually a very smart football aware move for him to go down , the game was over with the first down no need to run OB or risk a turnover… great heads up play by Mafah imo.
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Re: Why did Mafah go down?
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Oct 8, 2023, 8:57 PM
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Dear lord, take a blood pressure pill and settle down. Clemson won without your advice or input. You need to find something else to do on Saturday afternoons. You probably already have high blood pressure.
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Why would you recommend he take medicine
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Oct 8, 2023, 9:41 PM
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if you don't know that he needs it? Sheesh, were you in sales???
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Re: Why did Mafah go down?
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It was not advice, it was a football question... so save your pretentious comments, you're probably the guy who complains about not going to the portal because that is the reason we cannot seem to put teams away...
the reality is too often we survive vs we win, it goes to the mentality of this offense. Syracuse, did you feel like our offense put them away? The Trotter interception was the turning point... that was 6:45 in the 4th ... 10 point game after FG, punt, punt, fumble, punt... that really says driving that nail home doesn't it...
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Because he's smart and game aware
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Oct 8, 2023, 9:04 PM
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The ONLY way we can lose that game is if Wake gets the ball back.
If we run the clock out and they never touch the ball again we win.
Thus staying in bounds and keeping the clock running (or forcing Wake to take a TO) is the optimum play (in the face of incoming contact).
In fact it could be argued that even if it was clear sailing to the endzone, going down prior to scoring might be the most direct path to winning, but certainly with contact incoming or going out of bounds imminent, going down is the right play.
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Re: Because he's smart and game aware
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Oct 8, 2023, 10:45 PM
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how do they get the ball back? Running for 7 more yards?
There was 1:29 to play and Wake had a timeout... I agree if the clock was under 25 seconds and Wake was out of timeouts... it was a 1 score game.
We still had to run 3 plays after that regardless...
You should coach Miami, that kind of awareness..
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Re: Because he's smart and game aware
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Oct 9, 2023, 11:37 AM
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If Mafah scored there then Wake would get the ball back, period. It's sports so crazy things can happen when you have the ball and little time left. By getting the first down then going down in bounds, and resetting the downs, he ensured Wake would not get the ball back again, period, guaranteeing we could then run the clock down to ZERO and leave the field with a W.
Mafah traded potential personal glory for the bigger team goal. It's really that simple.
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Re: Because he's smart and game aware
Oct 9, 2023, 12:03 PM
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OK, lets go with your take:
First off I never said he would score, I thought he had another 5-7 yards before contact. If he kept going and stayed in bounds... hat's off to Mafah. That is a good play. Just randomly going down to get the same result? That is the kinda stuff that backfires on teams, or perhaps the coaches told him to go down. I can accept that too.
Mafah scores on that play. Takes another 5 seconds off the clock.
Score is then 24 to 12 with just over 1 minute on the clock. 1 timeout left.
Let's go with kickoff is fair catch or touchback.
Wake starts on the 25...
Do you really think Wake was going Florida State us at the end of that game and score in under 30 seconds?
My issue is the mentality of trying not to lose vs winning because we are that good at what we do...
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Re: Because he's smart and game aware
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Oct 9, 2023, 1:47 PM
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Ever heard of a fumble? Do you even understand or watch football? Ask Miami this question and see what answer you get. I don't understand why this is even an issue with you unless you are a dumb coot starting trouble. Not calling you a coot just hypothetically suggesting it.
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Re: Because he's smart and game aware
Oct 11, 2023, 8:16 AM
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I can understand why you feel this way, however the best choice was to do what he did. At the end of the game like this in a close game ball control and safety is important. There will be more trying to strip the ball out at this time because it is their only hope. Have you seen how often we have fumbled this year?
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Re: Because he's smart and game aware
Oct 11, 2023, 8:32 AM
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You can run out 1:29 in 3 plays, even if the other team has 1 time out.
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Is that you, Mario?*******
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Re: Why did Mafah go down?
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Oct 8, 2023, 9:23 PM
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To keep the clock running!
Super smart heads up play
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Re: Why did Mafah go down?
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Oct 8, 2023, 10:46 PM
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your not very aware are you...
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*you're***
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Re: Why did Mafah go down?
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Oct 8, 2023, 9:32 PM
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If Mafah goes down in bounds as he did, Wake has 0% to win. If he scores a TD, we gotta kickoff to them and they have a very small chance to score quick, get an onside kick, and score again to win.
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Re: Why did Mafah go down?
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Oct 8, 2023, 10:46 PM
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this makes absolutely no sense ....
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It does to everyone else.***
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Re: Why did Mafah go down?
Oct 9, 2023, 12:06 PM
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you do realize your describing what had just occurred before Mafah's carry right? Wake had scored and they tried an onside kick that failed...
It took Wake 11 plays and just over 4 minutes to score the series before.
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Re: Why did Mafah go down?
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Oct 8, 2023, 10:38 PM
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The real question is, why should we be trying to run the clock out on WF? Talent wise, we should have mopped the floor with them.
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I thought it was a very smart decision.***
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Re: I thought it was a very smart decision.***
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please help me understand this "very smart decision"? vs running for another 7 yards and taking that time off the clock?
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Someone above said it was a 1st down -that was all we needed
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Oct 8, 2023, 10:54 PM
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I didn't take notes to keep records of every play at the end so I can't verify that but going further and taking a chance of being hit would not be the best choice. Maybe there was 7 yards in front of him but how do you know he knew nobody was going to hit him from behind - his objective was to get the first down and didn't need to focus on anything else.
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Re: Someone above said it was a 1st down -that was all we needed
Oct 9, 2023, 1:38 PM
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because there was no one around him, he simply went down. He would have easily made the 5-7 yards before contact.
We cannot play to "not lose" ... which is the scenario you describe... either we trust the players with possession of we don't. If we don't why is he on the field?
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Re: I thought it was a very smart decision.***
Oct 9, 2023, 11:42 AM
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His getting 7 more yards, if he really could, would take 2-3 seconds more time. Insignificant. Even scoring again just makes the final score look better. Keeping the ball was the better move. If wake doesn’t get the ball, they can’t score and therefore can’t win. Look at the iron bowl from a few years ago. Auburn had the game won, but the running back went out of bounds stopping the clock. Bama got the ball back and won. Many other examples out there. Hope this helps. If not, I apologize for wasting your time.
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Re: I thought it was a very smart decision.***
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Thanks for a rational response, do not agree 100% with the premise you are not wasting my time at all.
We need the "final score to look better" or we will stay on the outside of the top 25 until we do...
You are talking about an every-second counts scenario for Wake and then saying 2-3 seconds was insignificant. Going down saved wake a few seconds and field position.
Just run the offense and don't get cute... getting cute is how teams lose.. (Miami)..
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Re: I thought it was a very smart decision.***
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Running 7 more yards and getting hit (possibly fumbling, he has done that this year, see duke game at goal line) or going out of bounds and stopping the clock after wasting 2 seconds getting those 7 yards you so desperately wanted is not the smart football play. The smart play is going down after the first down, the refs moving the chains and restarting the clock with 1:29 play clock runs for 40 seconds and forces wake to call a time out. Then you run another safe play QB kneel(victory formation) or handoff to Rb who goes down with minimal to no contact and repeat until clock has triple 0 on it. If that don’t help, see definition of INSANITY in dictionary.
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Re: I thought it was a very smart decision.***
Oct 9, 2023, 1:40 PM
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"possibly fumbling" is every play...
I did see the Dukee game, the fumble was because of a bad snap and just terrible timing... not Mafah or Cade mishandling the ball or not getting the mesh right.
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Re: Why did Mafah go down?
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~JKB
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In a season where we have done a bunch of dumb things
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Oct 9, 2023, 11:29 AM
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this wasn't one of them.
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The clock.***
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Re: Why did Mafah go down?
Oct 9, 2023, 12:13 PM
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Something tells me that JPF16 would be on here ranting about poor decisions and poor coaching had Mafah stretched out for additional yards and either fumbled or gone out of bounds and stopped the clock. Seems like a well seasoned second guessing arm chair quarterback who would not be happy regardless of the play.
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Re: Why did Mafah go down?
Oct 10, 2023, 9:21 PM
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whatever that "something telling you" is .... it's wrong, and you are wrong.
Was an observation at the game, was reinforced watching later Sat night and is still a question...
Is this team playing to win or playing not to lose?
I trust that our backs can run the ball and not fumble (not the same as the read option mesh) and so do the coaches.
Know what we did the next play after that?
Hint: Mafah runs the ball
and the play after that?
Hint: Mafah runs the ball
Shocking! I know...
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Re: JPF16 you are correct sir but a lot
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Of bozos on this board. Miami vs. Ga. Tech game was hours after our game finished. 🤦🏻♂️
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Re: Why did Mafah go down?
Oct 11, 2023, 9:04 AM
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Very simple, Clemson controlled the ball and the ending of the game. None of the “what if’s” happened. We won.
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