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Orange Blooded [3650]
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Wholesale change? Analyst hide? Position group change?
Jan 1, 2023, 10:24 AM
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What do you want to see for ‘23? I think bringing in an experienced coach as an analyst for some innovation to the playbook and modernizing the offense. Unfortunately, the other change I think is needed is at WR Coach.
On D it is less clear to me. The D put the team in a position to win all year given modern college football eg giving up only 31 to UT is actually competitive. I’d like to see things tightened up but I don’t think any changes are really necessary.
What say you TNet?
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Orange Blooded [3650]
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Re: Wholesale change? Analyst hide? Position group change?
Jan 1, 2023, 10:25 AM
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Analyst hire** ugh, autocorrect
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why bring an exp. coach as an analyst to bring innovation...
Jan 1, 2023, 10:30 AM
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when you have the pocketbook to go out a BUY a REAL OC????
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Re: why bring an exp. coach as an analyst to bring innovation...
Jan 1, 2023, 10:36 AM
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One thing I’ll never understand about TNet, if you ask folks what their opinion is on something and give your opinion for reference, folks will attack your opinion rather than using it as an opportunity to express what they’d like to see.
I think a lot of the pieces are in place on O, and I think the O is really close to being CFP level competitive. Just needs some tweaks. That’s why I think they should bring in an analyst. Bringing in an OC seems like it is a big risk with respect to disrupting the structure negatively. So I’d go the more subtle route first to minimize risk.
You’d like to see a wholesale change, cool. Who would you want to bring in? What type of offensive philosophy? Someone from the Riley tree would be interesting IMO.
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fair enough......
Jan 1, 2023, 10:51 AM
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I DO think there needs to be wholesale changes on the offensive side of the ball
I DO NOT think we're anywhere close to a CFP offense / team.
We lack Speed, Talent, Coaching/Coaching experience, Development, & Scheme...........that's pretty much every component needed for a good/elite offense.
but everyone has their opinion........to each their own.
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Exactly. We’re getting by right now on having a significant talent advantage
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Jan 1, 2023, 2:11 PM
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over pretty much all of the teams we play.
This covers up some of our coaching deficiencies.
When we play a team that is anywhere close to us in talent, we lose badly and can’t seem to score (Notre Dame, Tennessee).
It’s a good thing we haven’t had to play any teams lately with equal or better talent. I shudder to think about how badly that would go.
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Re: Exactly. We’re getting by right now on having a significant talent advantage
Jan 1, 2023, 3:18 PM
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So we lack the talent to be a top tier team, but beat the rest of the ACC due to our talent advantage? That's a tight window. You might want to clarify the part of the previous statement that you are agreeing to.
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Re: Exactly. We’re getting by right now on having a significant talent advantage
Jan 1, 2023, 4:29 PM
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Bare,
It's not so mystical. Its the difference between being a top 10 team and being a top 25 team.
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Re: Exactly. We’re getting by right now on having a significant talent advantage
Jan 1, 2023, 6:15 PM
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I'm not sure that JK agrees that we lack talent. From other posts I am pretty sure that he sees a bigger problem with the coaching. I know that we fall ahead of other ACC teams but behind UGA, Alabama, and Ohio State, but I am not sure there is a big enough gap there to say that we can dominate the ACC but not compete with the top tier based on talent. Basically, trying to see if the part of the post he was responding to referring to the lack talent was meant to be included in the "Exactly" part.
I might be one of the rare ones, but I think that we have top 10 talent. Top 5, no, but I think that we are close enough to compete. We have finished 10-15 the last couple of years so I believe that our coaching staff is slightly underperforming. I guess that also means that I am asking our coaching staff to overperform. Maybe that is unfair of me, but they are paid to a point to do just that and it is the only way that we can again become elite.
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Re: Exactly. We’re getting by right now on having a significant talent advantage
Jan 1, 2023, 11:01 PM
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Bare,
That is a fair enough thought process. Just a couple of small points on which we seem to disagree.
I would not say that we dominated the ACC this year. We won all of our ACC games but we did not dominate.
I would not say that we are top 10 in talent, especially after watching some of the other top ten teams play this weekend. I would say that somewhere between 10 & 15 is about right.
As far as the coaches are concerned, recruiting is part of coaching in college, so the decline in talent is sort of on them. I also think that a lot of fans seem to think that many of our problems this year were self-inflicted by the coaching staff. I have to say that I agree with them on that.
If we are satisfied with 10 - 15 we can keep on just like we have been, but if we want to perform well in the CFP we have to change some things in order to compete.
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Re: why bring an exp. coach as an analyst to bring innovation...
Jan 1, 2023, 11:46 AM
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I didn't see any reference to DJ becoming a Heisman candidate in his post. I have no doubt that DJ would have performed much better in a scheme that was designed to fit his strengths. That said, Streeter still needs to go...
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Re: why bring an exp. coach as an analyst to bring innovation...
Jan 1, 2023, 5:28 PM
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What should have been done differently with DJ?
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Re: Wholesale change? Analyst hide? Position group change?
Jan 1, 2023, 10:34 AM
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WRs equivalent to the Clemson standards would fix alot of problems but Streeter sucks too.
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Re: Wholesale change? Analyst hide? Position group change?
Jan 1, 2023, 10:37 AM
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I agree on the WR front. If Clemson has an elite WR room, they’ll be competitive on the national stage. Doesn’t appear the Grisham experiment has worked out on that front.
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Re: Wholesale change? Analyst hide? Position group change?
Jan 1, 2023, 2:07 PM
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It's relatively easy to see what wins games in college football today. Just look at yesterday's games. A great QB, great receivers, great OL, good RB, good running defense, average pass defense. In summary today you need a great offense, good enough defense to win a national championship.
I think we have a great QB. Not TL great but close. We don't have great receivers, we have an average to below average OL, very good RB, great running defense and average pass defense.
We need work in receivers, OL and pass defense and we'll be fine.
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Re: Wholesale change? Analyst hide? Position group change?
Jan 1, 2023, 3:50 PM
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It would be nice to have a proven OC, but that is not going to happen, nor should it, after Streeter just being in the position for one year. That being said, I hope that Dabo and Streeter sit down and decide what they are going to change in the off season. We know that the status quo is not going to get us where we want to go so I hope they don't try to demonstrate insanity.
I also think that they need to define what are each's responsibilities, and stick to it. When responsibilities overlap, there needs to be communication. Otherwise, there are going to be times that one's plans conflict with the others.
Finally, I agree that Grisham needs to go. The talent doesn't seem to be there, but if you look at how recruits were rated then we should be solid at that position group. I don't think that we missed that badly on that many young men.
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Re: Wholesale change? Analyst hide? Position group change?
Jan 1, 2023, 4:30 PM
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I don’t want to see any changes. I love the staff that Dabo has assembled. Every single one of them. They are all winners at life.
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Re: Wholesale change? Analyst hide? Position group change?
Jan 1, 2023, 5:12 PM
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Better grab an umbrella, about to get a rainstorm of TUs
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