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Rock Defender [53]
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It’s the economy, Stupid !
Aug 9, 2020, 11:48 AM
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I talk to folks overseas and their countries are not so divided. They recognize the seriousness of the virus. They have concern for others. They wear masks. They shut down in a more restrictive way, but for a shorter period of time and therefore get their economy operating closer to normal capacity more quickly. That path is more Christian (concern for others) and more pro business. It’s unfortunate that troll farms and trump’s lack of leadership have created extreme division and prevented us from going down this path. It’s ironic and unfortunate that trump is far from a true republican. His virus response (lack of) has greatly inhibited the economy and he’ll likely lose the election due to this. The truth is he’s a con artist that hijacked the Republican Party.
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Rock Defender [53]
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Re: It’s the economy, Stupid !
Aug 9, 2020, 11:59 AM
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Pelosi? Is that you?
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Rock Defender [53]
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Re: It’s the economy, Stupid !
Aug 9, 2020, 1:31 PM
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Getting trump out of office has nothing to do with politics, he’s not a Republican, it has to do with minimizing the virus and getting the economy cooking again as other countries have, he has proven with 100% certainty he can’t do it. The dude is 100% con artist sleaze bag and if you don’t see that by now you certainly never will. I just hope you’re not running anyone’s HR Dept.
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Re: It’s the economy, Stupid !
Aug 9, 2020, 12:03 PM
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Total BS and you offer “Dementia Joe” as an alternative. Just wow.
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Rock Defender [53]
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Re: It’s the economy, Stupid !
Aug 9, 2020, 1:10 PM
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I agree, wow, trump must be basket case if America sees Biden as better alternative, but you hit it right on the head, trump is a disaster and Biden clearly better.
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Legend [17781]
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Wrong Board!!!
Aug 9, 2020, 12:08 PM
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While I agree with most of your take, I am punishing you with a TD for posting on Football board.
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CU Guru [1359]
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So, after this more harsh but shorter period
Aug 9, 2020, 12:09 PM
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COVID-19 goes away, so when you re-open, no one gets sick. Oops. Completely wrong. So, you crash the economy FOR NOTHING.
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Re: It’s the economy, Stupid !
Aug 9, 2020, 12:11 PM
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So Big House when is Biden coming out of the basement to lead his party. Talking about a joke Dumber than dirt
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Rock Defender [53]
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Re: It’s the economy, Stupid !
Aug 9, 2020, 1:08 PM
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He won’t launch a campaign, no need to, first time in history a candidate can win by simply staying on the sideline and letting his opponent fumble. Biden is not winning; trump is losing.
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Re: It’s the economy, Stupid !
Aug 9, 2020, 12:15 PM
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You are correct. It Is the economy. That being said the Chinese communist government created the virus in a lab to unleash on the US and the world because the disruptor in chief was seriously damaging their economy. President Trump was getting the job done without the help of the so called Republicans. They talk a good talk but cave to the dems on every issue that comes along. I am a republican and I’m sick of their lack of backbone. They just let cryin chuck and nanny Pelosi run the show. None of them care about the American people, just the power. One man is trying to change that and they want him out. Wake up America. Go ahead and vote for Biden for puppet president. They can control him.
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Rock Defender [53]
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Re: It’s the economy, Stupid !
Aug 9, 2020, 1:12 PM
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U have woken up to the fact that the left and right are all crooks. But get used to the fact that trump and trolls have hijacked GOP and brainwashed most of the right. Sad.
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Re: It’s the economy, Stupid !
Aug 9, 2020, 12:15 PM
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You are correct. It Is the economy. That being said the Chinese communist government created the virus in a lab to unleash on the US and the world because the disruptor in chief was seriously damaging their economy. President Trump was getting the job done without the help of the so called Republicans. They talk a good talk but cave to the dems on every issue that comes along. I am a republican and I’m sick of their lack of backbone. They just let cryin chuck and nanny Pelosi run the show. None of them care about the American people, just the power. One man is trying to change that and they want him out. Wake up America. Go ahead and vote for Biden for puppet president. They can control him.
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Re: It’s the economy, Stupid !
Aug 9, 2020, 12:15 PM
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You are correct. It Is the economy. That being said the Chinese communist government created the virus in a lab to unleash on the US and the world because the disruptor in chief was seriously damaging their economy. President Trump was getting the job done without the help of the so called Republicans. They talk a good talk but cave to the dems on every issue that comes along. I am a republican and I’m sick of their lack of backbone. They just let cryin chuck and nanny Pelosi run the show. None of them care about the American people, just the power. One man is trying to change that and they want him out. Wake up America. Go ahead and vote for Biden for puppet president. They can control him.
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Re: It’s the economy, Stupid !
Aug 9, 2020, 12:21 PM
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1tiger--I like your 3-pronged response.
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Re: It’s the economy, Stupid !
Aug 9, 2020, 12:28 PM
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Sorry big house. I only allowed one TU,
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Re: It’s the economy, Stupid !
Aug 9, 2020, 12:30 PM
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Sums it up well.
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It's the stupid, mr. economy!***
Aug 9, 2020, 12:33 PM
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250,000 in Sturgis
Aug 9, 2020, 12:36 PM
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in a State not locked down,Governor never ordered sick people into Old Folks homes, Governor even encouraged doctors to prescribe medicine other Governors banned. FUNNY THOSE 5 that banned are now trying to get SPECIAL Protection from being held accountable.LOL
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Legend [19610]
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What a conveluted take!
Aug 9, 2020, 12:40 PM
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How the heck you soon that opinion is ridiculous!
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Re: It’s the economy, Stupid !
Aug 9, 2020, 12:59 PM
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Right now today, China and India has the a large population than the next 8 biggest counties in the world combined, and right now today, the United States of America has more reported cases of the covid-19 virus that any country, and it started in China, a country that has 1 billion, 250 million people, and the USA has 331 million, so China has 1,108,720,639 more people than the USA. What does that say about how smart Americans really are when facing a pandemic virus that we were told it was a terrible virus that was a killer!!!
I don't know about anybody else, but it tells me that the leaders of our country don't have the nuts to force Americans to protect themselves and others bc they fear losing on a ballot. That's not in anyway shape or form leaders that care about their countries people, they only care about getting elected to serve themselves and their rich friends that will funnel some of their riches to them for looking after their best interest of making more to share with them, and our leaders didn't just get this way, it has been taught to them for generations of family history in public service helping themselves before anyone else!!! That is what public service politicians/leaders do in our country!!! Hey, but they allow us to keep what we can afford to get as long as we can pay the taxes that "they" vote among themselves to raise yearly. And they will take it and sell it for a 3d of what we had to pay for it. And they will sometimes sell it for less than the tax owed on it if someone has gotten behind on their taxes...
Shame on the leaders of our country that has allowed the people in our country to get sicker that ever before in our history, shame them to H&11!!!
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I don't think so.
Aug 9, 2020, 1:03 PM
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European countries got hit almost as hard as China.
Everyone got sick..Got over it.
I wear my mask everywhere I go but I'm not going to make up stuff to get people to wear theirs. ...and I'm certainly not going to use the Virus as a means to push my political agendas. Seems disrespectful.
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Re: It’s the economy, Stupid !
Aug 9, 2020, 1:11 PM
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Big House thanks for the try. You knew you would get trashed. Recently we have people on net proud to be racists, spout white supremacy, repeat data already debunked ( China lab, trump clorox and other medicines and worst of all trashing our players who have a brain and opinion. Many understand and agree with your analysis but its a waste of time to get on the board and listen to the constant complaining w/o the feeling that critical thought is an option. It is emotional when you are confronted with data and you can not get out of your small brain hole.Its Called evolution and progress.
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Rock Defender [53]
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Re: It’s the economy, Stupid !
Aug 9, 2020, 1:16 PM
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I’ll say a prayer for ya.
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If Trump wins will Crump stop dumping this mange trash here?***
Aug 9, 2020, 1:32 PM
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Rock Defender [53]
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Re: If Trump wins will Crump stop dumping this mange trash here?***
Aug 9, 2020, 2:05 PM
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Unless something changes, Trump is not going to win.
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Oculus Spirit [83625]
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How big is that stone you are getting ready to cast...
Aug 9, 2020, 2:16 PM
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because if you are going to bring up the Christian approach, you are going to have to spread the blame a little more evenly.
I know Trump lives on Elm street for many of you guys, but he doesn't have near the power over people as he does with those of you that are giving him permission to be your boogeyman.
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Lot o points [181005]
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How are you this interested in politics?***
Aug 9, 2020, 2:19 PM
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It was politicized from the very beginning....
Aug 9, 2020, 3:26 PM
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On 1/31, Trump started to ban flights from China. He immediately was labeled racist and xenophobic by Democrats.
On 2/24 or 2/25 Pelosi was out in San Francisco saying there is no issues, they are open for toursism.
In mid-March DeBlasio told New Yorkers to go about their normal lives. No issues. He also told states that tried to block New Yorkers from entering was unconstitutional and he would sue. The very proactive that he’s doing now.
It was political from the start. Can’t blame one side with out acknowledging the other side as well.
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Oculus Spirit [83625]
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Interesting...
Aug 9, 2020, 3:55 PM
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you don't sound like a mindless zombie.
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Oculus Spirit [97734]
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While I generally agree in Trump blowing the handling of
Aug 9, 2020, 3:39 PM
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this, I also have a feeling in the end it will not matter much either way. The virus is not going away any time soon. Shutting down totally, severely, and for long enough to quell the virus, works. AND it can be maintained, mainly on islands, with contact tracing, lots of tests, etc. BUT, every country that shut down, and beat this, will see a resurgence. We are seeing the beginnings of that in Europe. Places like Australia and Japan as well. Spain, Netherlands, England, Switzerland, etc. are all seeing increasing cases. In the cases of Australia and Japan, they're actually worse now than initially. Israel has seen a larger second wave as well. It's inevitable really.
So the calculus is can the virus be quelled? Certainly, at an impossible economic cost. Can the economy reopen and flourish to any degree close to where it once functioned? No. Not in the long term. Some factors that aid the containment are ISLANDS. When you're an island, you can control people coning and going. Taiwan, Japan, New Zealand, Australia (formerly), all come to mind. But a country with land borders with another, or several, and all bets are off. South Korea, even, is for all intents and purposes, an island. In the end, everyone will suffer. BUT, that being said, we could have coped with it better than we did. And that's because we have #### poor leadership, at all levels really.
Wear a mask indoors, avoid large crowds, especially indoors, wash your hands often, and keep 6 feet apart whenever possible. Just 80% of people doing that diligently, and we can function FAR BETTER than we are now. That means no bars, restaurants (excpt takeout), basketball games, football games, crowded mnovie theaters, etc. There's still an economic price to pay. And some have paid dearly, us, notsomuch. But those who sacrificed more, will end up wasting their time as it will return eventually. Shutdowns are not sustainable long term. Covid is.
Let it burn as much as possible, while maintaining the most economic activity possible. Adapt if necessary. Sacrifice as necessary. But we have yet to hit that sweet spot. We went too far one way, then too far the other way. We never compromise in America, and that is our greatest weakness IMO.
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