|
Replies: 29
| visibility 1
|
CU Guru [1797]
TigerPulse: 100%
Posts: 1115
Joined: 4/6/18
|
What other offensive coaches are on their way out?
1
Jan 13, 2023, 9:20 AM
|
|
I am assuming Riley has the authority to clean house, if he wants.
|
|
|
|
 |
Varsity [231]
TigerPulse: 41%
Posts: 596
Joined: 1/16/19
|
Re: What other offensive coaches are on their way out?
1
Jan 13, 2023, 9:26 AM
|
|
They may have talked about it, but Dabo hires and fires, not the OC.
|
|
|
|
|
|
Orange Blooded [4477]
TigerPulse: 100%
Posts: 6313
Joined: 10/26/05
|
I believe Grisham should be let go as well.
2
Jan 13, 2023, 9:27 AM
|
|
I’m not sure he will be though.
|
|
|
|
|
|
110%er [8540]
TigerPulse: 48%
Posts: 11521
Joined: 9/9/06
|
Re: What other offensive coaches are on their way out?
1
Jan 13, 2023, 9:30 AM
|
|
That would be the wrong assumption. The buck stops on Dabo's desk.
|
|
|
|
|
|
Legend [19697]
TigerPulse: 100%
Posts: 17289
Joined: 8/18/05
|
Why would you assume that?
Jan 13, 2023, 9:35 AM
|
|
he's not the head coach. He didn't have that authority at TCU. He doesn't know the coaches he'll be working with. You don't change coaches over the summer.
I'm not going to say we don't see a move after Streeter, but I think it's highly unlikely. The emphasis now will be getting the whole offensive staff on the same page in learning the new system.
|
|
|
|
|
|
110%er [9736]
TigerPulse: 69%
Posts: 9422
Joined: 1/18/17
|
Right. I think they all get a year with the new OC.
1
1
Jan 13, 2023, 9:50 AM
|
|
An OC who is heavily involved as he should be could push a guy like Grisham to do a better job.
If his offense isn’t working because the WR aren’t blocking…he’s not going to just accept that.
|
|
|
|
|
|
Legend [19697]
TigerPulse: 100%
Posts: 17289
Joined: 8/18/05
|
It's clear to me at least Dabo decided it was the philosophy
1
Jan 13, 2023, 9:53 AM
|
|
on offense that needed changed. All these guys played in varying systems, Spiller and Grisham in the NFL. Richardson ran air raid as a high school coach. I think Dabo just decided the system overall hindered everything around it
|
|
|
|
|
|
All-TigerNet [10901]
TigerPulse: 100%
Posts: 15072
Joined: 8/6/10
|
OC usually won't agree to take the job if he is stuck with
1
Jan 13, 2023, 10:15 AM
[ in reply to Why would you assume that? ] |
|
existing coaches
|
|
|
|
|
|
CU Guru [1487]
TigerPulse: 76%
Posts: 1995
Joined: 1/30/98
|
Wrong
Jan 13, 2023, 4:21 PM
|
|
He knows absolutely nothing about the offensive staff.
|
|
|
|
|
|
Legend [17644]
TigerPulse: 100%
Posts: 14175
Joined: 10/24/10
|
Re: Wrong
Jan 13, 2023, 2:01 PM
|
|
If he watches game tape, Riley will learn what he needs to know. It's all about player performance and effort.
|
|
|
|
|
|
110%er [6075]
TigerPulse: 96%
Posts: 4303
Joined: 4/3/17
|
Grisham absolutely has to go***
2
Jan 13, 2023, 9:35 AM
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Orange Blooded [4159]
TigerPulse: 100%
Posts: 3989
Joined: 1/22/03
|
Re: Grisham absolutely has to go***
1
Jan 13, 2023, 9:45 AM
|
|
That is the other position that has to improve! Now with Scott returning, he may help Tyler get the receivers up to snuff and land some Tee, Mike, Nuk, and Ross clones, but if not I think we see a move at the WR spot! The RB's recruiting has got to get better, you can't miss on every single one of your top 7 or 8 on your board, especially at a place like CLEMSON!
|
|
|
|
|
|
CU Guru [1487]
TigerPulse: 76%
Posts: 1995
Joined: 1/2/23
|
Did the position IMMEDIATELY improve when the QB change was made.
Jan 13, 2023, 11:23 AM
|
|
Yes, obviously it did.
Grisham isn't going anywhere.
|
|
|
|
|
|
Hall of Famer [23112]
TigerPulse: 100%
Posts: 19813
Joined: 1/15/11
|
Coordinators DON'T hire/fire position coaches
Jan 13, 2023, 9:47 AM
|
|
The Head Coach runs the program.
|
|
|
|
|
|
All-TigerNet [10901]
TigerPulse: 100%
Posts: 15072
Joined: 8/6/10
|
Man y'all do not understand how negotiations work***
Jan 13, 2023, 10:16 AM
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
CU Guru [1487]
TigerPulse: 76%
Posts: 1995
Joined: 1/2/23
|
It doesn't appear you have a clue what you're
Jan 13, 2023, 11:23 AM
|
|
talking about.
|
|
|
|
|
|
Hall of Famer [23112]
TigerPulse: 100%
Posts: 19813
Joined: 1/15/11
|
|
|
|
|
|
110%er [5269]
TigerPulse: 100%
Posts: 4339
Joined: 1/27/02
|
Re: Coordinators DON'T hire/fire position coaches...BUT...
1
Jan 13, 2023, 10:18 AM
[ in reply to Coordinators DON'T hire/fire position coaches ] |
|
In practicality, they get some consideration or they tellthe coach they are not coming unless they get to bring joe and jack.....depends on situation and circumstances and personalities...
|
|
|
|
|
|
All-TigerNet [13254]
TigerPulse: 100%
Posts: 10002
Joined: 5/11/99
|
|
|
|
|
|
Hall of Famer [23112]
TigerPulse: 100%
Posts: 19813
Joined: 1/15/11
|
LOL, and the HC will make that decision
Jan 13, 2023, 11:29 AM
|
|
YGDDA
|
|
|
|
|
|
All-TigerNet [13254]
TigerPulse: 100%
Posts: 10002
Joined: 5/11/99
|
Re: LOL, and the HC will make that decision
Jan 13, 2023, 12:07 PM
|
|
ah yes, the code speaker again.
B/c he too scared to say what he really means.
Clever, must be 12 years old.
|
|
|
|
|
|
All-TigerNet [13038]
TigerPulse: 100%
Posts: 22361
Joined: 4/24/04
|
I thought Grisham would be #1 on the chopping
1
Jan 13, 2023, 9:54 AM
|
|
block ahead of Streeter.
|
|
|
|
|
|
CU Guru [1487]
TigerPulse: 76%
Posts: 1995
Joined: 1/2/23
|
Why??
Jan 13, 2023, 11:26 AM
|
|
Did you see the immediate improvement in WRs when the QB change was made?
How could the WRs possibly look well-coached when the previous wasn't capable of getting them the ball.
Grisham isn't going anywhere. Watch the WRs numbers take off with the new QB and offense.
|
|
|
|
|
|
All-TigerNet [13038]
TigerPulse: 100%
Posts: 22361
Joined: 4/24/04
|
No, i really didn't
Jan 13, 2023, 1:55 PM
|
|
I saw us relying on Cole Turner as a #1/2 option and Drew Swinney getting plenty of meaningful snaps.
I did see a QB that was putting more balls where guys can catch them, but i also still see a mediocre group of WRs out there that lacks elite play makers like we had from 2011-2019.
The majority of the blue chip WRs we've signed over the last 4 years have been busts, transferred out, or both. The buck has to stop with someone. Maybe Dabo is taking the blame himself rather than putting it on Grisham, but something has gone wrong at that position.
|
|
|
|
|
|
Orange Blooded [2746]
TigerPulse: 94%
Posts: 2262
Joined: 11/30/98
|
Grisham and Richardson both need to go.***
1
Jan 13, 2023, 10:06 AM
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
110%er [6153]
TigerPulse: 100%
Posts: 4043
Joined: 2/15/11
|
Richardson? You cannot be serious.***
Jan 13, 2023, 10:18 AM
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
CU Guru [1064]
TigerPulse: 98%
Posts: 798
Joined: 10/12/99
|
Re: What other offensive coaches are on their way out?
Jan 13, 2023, 10:09 AM
|
|
Short memory. BV told Dabo he needed to bring guys from OU. Dabo said no, he hires and fires.
|
|
|
|
|
|
All-TigerNet [13567]
TigerPulse: 100%
Posts: 8953
Joined: 8/30/18
|
Re: What other offensive coaches are on their way out?
Jan 13, 2023, 10:14 AM
|
|
We all know GR and Dabo had the discussion about the staff already. Dabo has the final say and GR can make his case. I would say few changes are likely initially unless GR had someone he worked with that he really wanted to bring with him. Again, Dabo would have to approve it if that were the case.
|
|
|
|
|
|
All-TigerNet [10901]
TigerPulse: 100%
Posts: 15072
Joined: 8/6/10
|
I'll be 100% shocked if there are no other changes.
1
Jan 13, 2023, 10:18 AM
|
|
A guy with the market value of GR isn't going to just come in and be stuck with a staff that isn't his. He's going to make it a condition of taking the job that he gets to bring certain coaches. If he didn't do that... wow. There are 20 other colleges that would have hired him at OC and said bring whoever you want.
|
|
|
|
|
|
CU Guru [1487]
TigerPulse: 76%
Posts: 1995
Joined: 1/2/23
|
You're assuming incorrectly.***
Jan 13, 2023, 11:20 AM
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Replies: 29
| visibility 1
|
|
|
50
