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Freshman [-100]
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Streeter should not have a job tomorrow.
Nov 26, 2022, 5:17 PM
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Why did Dabo ever think it was a good idea to let an unproven o coordinator coach at Clemson.
He didn't have a resume that qualified him for the job. No company would hire someone to that kind of money with a resume like his
Pathetic
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Athletic Dir [1122]
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It's all about who you know***
Nov 26, 2022, 5:18 PM
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Orange Beast [6554]
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Re: It's all about who you know***
Nov 26, 2022, 5:25 PM
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Pathetic effort.
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Orange Immortal [62823]
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Re: It's all about who you know***
Nov 27, 2022, 9:25 PM
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What gets to me the most of all the interviews since the game, is Dabo saying that the way DJ was playing was a long way away from being the reason that we lost, and that is just not true IMO. The QB is the leader of the team, and when the other players knows that their QB can't help them to win games, they lose their faith in the team that they signed up to play for, and they're just not into it, and they get tired really quick of it being the same in every game!!!
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Freshman [-74]
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Yet again, there are no magic schemes or playcalls that could've fixed
Nov 26, 2022, 5:19 PM
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what we saw today. When DJ is on, the offense hums. When he's not, it's bad. Real bad. You can't fix the issue we saw today with playcalls.
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Freshman [-100]
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Re: Yet again, there are no magic schemes or playcalls that could've fixed
Nov 26, 2022, 5:21 PM
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Coaching starts before game day and this was a poorly coached team.
Execution is a reflection of coaching.
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Freshman [-74]
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Disagree. We put THE player in
Nov 26, 2022, 6:24 PM
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position to win. It was a lack of execution from the most critical position on the field that cost the game. Every other group on the field did enough to win.
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Solid Orange [1394]
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Whatever….
Nov 26, 2022, 7:13 PM
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This team was not prepared and has not been prepared all season. It came down to one play in OT or we lose to Wake. We gave up 384 yards to freaking Furman and Notre Dame blew us off the field.
This is beyond just poor QB play. This game prep and player development at all positions.
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Freshman [-74]
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Yeah, pffft, poorly coached and no development teams
Nov 27, 2022, 1:08 PM
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They often win 10+ games every year. Lol.
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Orange Immortal [62823]
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Re: Disagree. We put THE player in
Nov 27, 2022, 9:29 PM
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He completed 9 of about 29 passes, what was Rattlers completions, I think he only had a couple of balls that didn't land right in his receivers hands!!!!
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Clemson Conqueror [11587]
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the good ones scheme WRs open.......
Nov 26, 2022, 5:21 PM
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the good ones DEVELOP WR talent.........the good ones DEVELOP Quarterbacks...........the good ones ADAPT to their surroundings............the good ones do a heckuva lot better than the CRAP that we saw on the field today.
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Letterman [161]
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Re: the good ones scheme WRs open.......
Nov 26, 2022, 5:27 PM
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the good ones DEVELOP WR talent.........the good ones DEVELOP Quarterbacks...........the good ones ADAPT to their surroundings............the good ones do a heckuva lot better than the CRAP that we saw on the field today.
Totally on the mark. Either they are admitting they cant recruit, or if they can, then they cant develope, or if they can, they cant coach. What I See and saw is a QB with potential but having trouble reaching it…WR with athletics but terrible skillsets(no leap, bad hands, no separation) and very predictable play calling and no ability to gameplan or even take advantage of anything an opponent gives us during a game
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Freshman [-74]
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Bullcrap.
Nov 26, 2022, 6:21 PM
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Same as all year, we had open receivers. Not being able to see them or get it to them accurately when he does, that's the obvious root cause. The adaption was going to focus on short, higher probability throws. Regardless, DJ made poor throws to open guys today. Short of trying the next guy, there is no adapting to fix that.
The offense put players in positions to win. Connecting on 27.6% has no playcalling fix.
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Hall of Famer [9047]
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Its the same coaches that refuse to replace an utterly ineffective qb.***
Nov 26, 2022, 7:45 PM
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Freshman [-74]
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There's plenty of evidence showing Dabo
Nov 26, 2022, 6:27 PM
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will make a QB change when feasible. How long you been a Clemson fan?
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Valley Legend [12628]
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Clemson Conqueror [11587]
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yep should've never been hired for this position***
Nov 26, 2022, 5:19 PM
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Freshman [-74]
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What magic plays would you have called, pheeble?***
Nov 26, 2022, 5:20 PM
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Clemson Conqueror [11587]
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we still can get 100% of our goals right stanley??......
Nov 26, 2022, 5:23 PM
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oh wait...
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Freshman [-74]
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So you got nothing, as usual?
Nov 26, 2022, 6:40 PM
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And no, we missed the state championship, dunce.
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Freshman [-100]
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Re: What magic plays would you have called, pheeble?***
Nov 26, 2022, 5:23 PM
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It isn't just play calling.
It is scheme, execution and even recruiting.
All a responsibility of the coaching staff. Granted Streeter isn't responsible for the recruiting of these players
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Clemson Conqueror [11587]
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don't bother.......he doesn't understand.***
Nov 26, 2022, 5:23 PM
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Freshman [-74]
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Incorrect, pheeble. I very accurately defined the root cause.
Nov 26, 2022, 6:49 PM
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I asked to try and formulate a counterpoint to my facts, and all you could muster was mumbling something about guy named stanley.
So again, pheebs, what magic playcalls would you have suggested to fix that broken today?
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Orange Blooded [2367]
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Re: What magic plays would you have called, pheeble?***
Nov 26, 2022, 6:09 PM
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Streeter isn't responsible for recruiting these players? He was recruiting coordinator up until 2 years ago. I don't think that recruiting was the problem then, but he is largely responsible for the recruitment of most of these players.
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Freshman [-74]
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All-TigerNet [5643]
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Re: Streeter should not have a job tomorrow.
Nov 26, 2022, 5:21 PM
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Have you considered that streeter can’t call the plays he wants to because the QB1 can’t execute?
We saw the same thing from tony elliot last year. Same QB. I think that’s pretty clear evidence.
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Freshman [-100]
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Re: Streeter should not have a job tomorrow.
Nov 26, 2022, 5:25 PM
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Qb 1 is not a read option qb, but our staff keeps forcing read option.
Good coaches adapt scheme to the players strengths and abilities. We are doing the opposite.
Square peg doesn't fit round hole. Poor evaluation, coaching, and scheme.
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Freshman [-74]
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Please define this "read option" offense
Nov 26, 2022, 6:55 PM
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you're referring to.
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Clemson Conqueror [11587]
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Freshman [-74]
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Lol. You could not have possibly watched the game.
Nov 26, 2022, 7:13 PM
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Just blowing smoke out of your ### as usual.
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Clemson Icon [27824]
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Maybe get your nose out of it..***
Nov 27, 2022, 1:17 PM
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Freshman [-100]
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1st Rounder [612]
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Re: Streeter should not have a job tomorrow.
Nov 26, 2022, 5:47 PM
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Another thing to consider is that Dabo is the one calling most of the the plays a majority of the time. If he left Streeter alone, I truly think he’s pretty capable of calling a good offense. But DS insists on getting in the way and it’s MORE than obvious unfortunately.
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Freshman [-74]
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Commissioner [1226]
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He should be fired tonight.
Nov 26, 2022, 5:23 PM
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Nm
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Freshman [4]
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Re: Streeter should not have a job tomorrow.
Nov 26, 2022, 5:28 PM
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Both coordinators need to go tomorrow. DJ needs to be shown the door. This was embarrassing on a new level. There is no excusing this away…this is a business, you are being paid a lot of money Dabo and this is what happens when you hire your unproven friends. Lose your ego, fire them and send a message to college football and kore importantly recruits that this mediocrity is not acceptable at Clemson. Winning the ACC means nothing, it’s a #### league that we used to absolutely dominate, we squeak our wins now. UNC is pass heavy too, but his was the third or fourth game we have given up 250 yards pkus passing, that is a lack of coaching and development. Dabo has been given the benefit of the soubt for two years and he has earned that, but enough is enough…
The landscape has changed drastically and we have not adapted…
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Freshman [-100]
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Re: Streeter should not have a job tomorrow.
Nov 26, 2022, 5:35 PM
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I love Dabo and appreciate what he has done for us, but if he doesn't make serious changes after this season, it is time to examine his tenure.
The lack of judgement he has shown the last two years is troubling to say the least.
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Freshman [-74]
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So Taisun was the answer last year?
Nov 26, 2022, 7:16 PM
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Are you joking?
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Freshman [5]
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Re: Streeter should not have a job tomorrow.
Nov 26, 2022, 5:41 PM
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Umm, maybe because Dabo was an unproven receivers coach (some say assistant head coach as well but still unproven) who got promoted to head coach and has done pretty well. The real trouble is that Clemson does not have the level of talent across the entire offense or really on defense we've come to expect. Star ratings are not always proof of future success no matter how well a player is coached.
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Freshman [-100]
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Re: Streeter should not have a job tomorrow.
Nov 26, 2022, 5:55 PM
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You do realize that his level of performance is extremely rare out of someone with no experience right?
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Gridiron Giant [15498]
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Re: Streeter should not have a job tomorrow.
Nov 26, 2022, 6:59 PM
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Umm, maybe because Dabo was an unproven receivers coach (some say assistant head coach as well but still unproven) who got promoted to head coach and has done pretty well. The real trouble is that Clemson does not have the level of talent across the entire offense or really on defense we've come to expect. Star ratings are not always proof of future success no matter how well a player is coached.
To blame recruiting you're simply blaming the players. We have excellent players, we have at least 3 that will go 1st round.
DJ completed 28% of his passes for 99 yards. We've seen this movie before. You can't win at this level with a QB that can't throw the ball consistently. Last season he had the worst QBR in the ACC. This year will end up likely the same.
You can't keep your defense on the field and not expect them to get tired.
Dabo has said that his job is to "put our guys in the best position to win." He didn't do that today. DJ should have been pulled in the 3rd quarter. I'm baffled by this reluctance to adjust when a player is underperforming.
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Paw Warrior [4811]
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Re: Streeter should not have a job tomorrow.
Nov 26, 2022, 5:48 PM
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The only change that can be made in the middle of a game week is QB. Gotta start there first and see how that looks.
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Game Changer [1818]
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Re: Streeter should not have a job tomorrow.
Nov 26, 2022, 6:14 PM
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Cade should have started 2nd half
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Starter [267]
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Re: Streeter should not have a job tomorrow.
Nov 26, 2022, 5:49 PM
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Rent a U-Haul
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Game Changer [1818]
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Re: Streeter should not have a job tomorrow.
Nov 26, 2022, 6:13 PM
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so true Clemson should have tried to get Hogs OC. Streeter picking DJ starter 1st game should have been fired right then.
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Campus Hero [13551]
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Was Streeter allowed to make the changes he wanted to?
Nov 26, 2022, 6:15 PM
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I don't know. I doubt he was. Maybe it's not all on him.
Maybe Streeter was forced to start a QB who couldn't run the offense he was forced to run?
I have no idea, I'm just guessing.
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Paw Warrior [4715]
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Re: Streeter should not have a job tomorrow.
Nov 26, 2022, 6:31 PM
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Hey, we all wanted Elliott gone so we should all be happy.
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Paw Warrior [4605]
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Re: Streeter should not have a job tomorrow.
Nov 26, 2022, 6:34 PM
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No OC can save a team from the QB play we have had. It is the Jimmies and the Joes. Streeter might be salvageable if he would have started Cade from day one.
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National Champion [7875]
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What didn't you like?
Nov 26, 2022, 6:38 PM
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1st Down qb Run
2nd Down Run Up the Middle
3rd Down Run or Pass behind LOS
4th I sure hope we get the Punt off...
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Rival Killer [2776]
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Re: Streeter should not have a job tomorrow.
Nov 26, 2022, 7:13 PM
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Just like it wouldn't be a good idea to hire a high school coach as o.c.? Streeter has exp as an o.c., and he was in the system for a couple years. On paper, promoting Streeter wasn't a bad idea.
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Starter [274]
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Re: Streeter should not have a job tomorrow.
Nov 26, 2022, 7:16 PM
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Oddly enough,Streeter called the game against LSU and that game looks no different to what we have seen the last two years. That game in my opinion was the top of the curve for Clemson Football.
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Starter [274]
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Re: Streeter should not have a job tomorrow.
Nov 26, 2022, 7:16 PM
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Oddly enough,Streeter called the game against LSU and that game looks no different to what we have seen the last two years. That game in my opinion was the top of the curve for Clemson Football.
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Starter [274]
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Re: Streeter should not have a job tomorrow.
Nov 26, 2022, 7:16 PM
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Oddly enough,Streeter called the game against LSU and that game looks no different to what we have seen the last two years. That game in my opinion was the top of the curve for Clemson Football.
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Tiger Spirit [9405]
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Re: Streeter should not have a job tomorrow.
Nov 26, 2022, 7:58 PM
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But he knows how to say I agree and yes man…..Dabo loves this and that is all that matters!
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Clemson Icon [27753]
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Re: Streeter should not have a job tomorrow.
Nov 27, 2022, 11:49 AM
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I suspect that Coach Swinney has a LOT of input in what plays are called. That headset that he wears on the sideline isn’t tuned into “Doug Clark and the Hot Nuts”,!
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All-In [10856]
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He will probably get a raise***
Nov 27, 2022, 1:10 PM
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Trainer [41]
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Re: Streeter should not have a job tomorrow.
Nov 27, 2022, 4:12 PM
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100% agree! Dabo hired a staff of "YES MEN" so no one would challenge or question him.
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Trainer [41]
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Re: Streeter should not have a job tomorrow.
Nov 27, 2022, 4:12 PM
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100% agree! Dabo hired a staff of "YES MEN" so no one would challenge or question him.
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Standout [202]
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Because to be great
Nov 27, 2022, 6:54 PM
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Sometimes you have to gamble. It just looks like this gamble didn't pay off.
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National Champion [7183]
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Re: Streeter should not have a job tomorrow.
Nov 27, 2022, 9:33 PM
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Shouldn't, but definitely will.
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