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Let’s revisit the preseason ACC predictions, shall we?
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Let’s revisit the preseason ACC predictions, shall we?

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Mar 7, 2023, 11:58 PM

Before the 2022-2023 season, the ACC basketball preseason poll was as follows:

1. North Carolina
2. Duke
3. Virginia
4. Miami
5. Florida State
6. Notre Dame
7. Virginia Tech
8. Syracuse
9. Wake Forest
10. NC State
11. Clemson
12. Louisville
13. Boston College
14. Pittsburgh
15. Georgia Tech

Here is how the teams finished:

1. Miami
2. Virginia
3. Clemson
4. Duke
5. Pittsburgh
6. NC State
7. North Carolina
8. Syracuse
9. Wake Forest
10. Boston College
11. Virginia Tech
12. Florida State
13. Georgia Tech
14. Notre Dame
15. Louisville

Who overachieved the most?

Pittsburgh +9
Clemson +8
NC State +4

Who underachieved the most?

Notre Dame -8
Florida State -7
North Carolina -6

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Re: Let’s revisit the preseason ACC predictions, shall we?

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Mar 8, 2023, 12:07 AM

Do you think we could hang a banner in LJ that says, "We're #3"...

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Better yet

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Mar 8, 2023, 12:14 AM



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Re: Better yet

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Mar 8, 2023, 12:16 AM

The sad thing is we didn't even win most improved...

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Re: Better yet

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Mar 8, 2023, 8:26 AM [ in reply to Better yet ]

T3Tiger® said:

“We weren’t #11 after all”



"We made it to the third day of the ACC Tournament!"

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Re: Let’s revisit the preseason ACC predictions, shall we?

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Mar 8, 2023, 1:08 AM [ in reply to Re: Let’s revisit the preseason ACC predictions, shall we? ]

No. The point is that the Tigers under the leadership of Brad Brownell are the 3 seed going into the ACC tournament. That’s not a bad achievement is it?

Go Tigers!

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It is DIFFERENT that CU is still in the tournament after…

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Mar 8, 2023, 8:06 AM

…the 1st day of the games.


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Heck, even the coots got $EC 5th Place rings in football.

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Mar 8, 2023, 8:08 AM [ in reply to Re: Let’s revisit the preseason ACC predictions, shall we? ]

We certainly need a #3 banner for ACC Basketball.

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Re: Heck, even the coots got $EC 5th Place rings in football.

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Mar 8, 2023, 10:01 AM

How about Runner-up to the Runner-up?

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Re: Heck, even the coots got $EC 5th Place rings in football.


Mar 8, 2023, 4:50 PM

Hey!

If the coots can get 5th place rings, we can have a 3rd place banner.

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Mar 8, 2023, 1:52 AM



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Re: Let’s revisit the preseason ACC predictions, shall we?

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Mar 8, 2023, 2:55 AM

Media predictions, again…lol.

Make the tournament and win it. We are done with the down play your team in pre-season and celebrate routine after 13 years.

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Re: Let’s revisit the preseason ACC predictions, shall we?

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Mar 8, 2023, 3:27 AM

It looks like Syracuse & Wake are the only teams that performed to expectations.

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Re: Let’s revisit the preseason ACC predictions, shall we?

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Mar 8, 2023, 3:56 AM

Why does it matter what the media predicted?

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Re: Let’s revisit the preseason ACC predictions, shall we?

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Mar 8, 2023, 5:48 AM

It doesn’t. UNC was pre season # 1. Let’s try revisiting how often the media gets it wrong.

After 13 years this is what we are hanging our hat on?

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Re: Let’s revisit the preseason ACC predictions, shall we?

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Mar 8, 2023, 10:17 AM

Exactly my point. JK is just grasping at straws to find some way to claim Brownell has been successful.

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Re: Let’s revisit the preseason ACC predictions, shall we?

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Mar 8, 2023, 5:56 AM

That is horrible predicting! Wonder if one could simply draw names out of a hat and do just as well?

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Re: Let’s revisit the preseason ACC predictions, shall we?

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Mar 8, 2023, 6:45 AM

Why should we ever be ranked that low in the preseason though?

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Re: Let’s revisit the preseason ACC predictions, shall we?

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Mar 8, 2023, 7:16 AM

my thought back then was was Hall hurtand recovering plus lost expereince at guard. Projections owould be more interesting if they came from coaches and not media

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Re: Let’s revisit the preseason ACC predictions, shall we?

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Mar 8, 2023, 7:54 AM

That is true. Just figured that since Brad is such a great coach that the media would realize it.

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YES Lets revisit it...

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Mar 8, 2023, 7:36 AM

Why after 12 years of program building are we being picked 11th in the preseason?


That's terrible.

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Re: YES Lets revisit it...


Mar 8, 2023, 7:54 AM

Exactly my thoughts.

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Re: Let’s revisit the preseason ACC predictions, shall we?

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Mar 8, 2023, 7:56 AM

Let's visit the post ACC tournament results. I honestly hope you are crowing like Cocky on meth.

Most of us here want the Tigers to be successful even if that means Brad is retained which I believe he will be. I had hoped to make a change several years ago, but it's hard to pull the trigger based on a 14-6 record in the ACC and 3rd seed, no matter how down the conference is.

Go Tigers! See you next year Brad--ugh.

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What if we wait until the seasons over

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Mar 8, 2023, 8:05 AM

To start this look back. We are one game away from missing the NCAA tournament again and heading to the NIT.
Thereby making most of the preseason expectations for Clemson accurate.

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Mar 8, 2023, 8:06 AM

What do we have…3 times in the conference ranked? Now evaluate…

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Considering the afterthought Clemson basketball is

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Mar 8, 2023, 9:07 AM

annually to the ACC media writers on a regular basis, and the sports world at large, low pre-season league rankings is our norm.

How have we fared in the past when we've actually entered the season with higher expectations following a decent season? Like 6th in the ACC or better pre-season? Looking back at the lack of sustained achievement from one season to the next, we all know that answer.

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Why after building his program for 12 years was cbb

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Mar 8, 2023, 9:13 AM

predicted to finish way down at 11?

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Re: Let’s revisit the preseason ACC predictions, shall we?

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Mar 8, 2023, 9:16 AM

Not only that, most of the geniuses on here actually picked a worse finish for us than the pundits.

Of course they will never admit that they were very wrong.... I mean very wrong. They continue to spout bs and complain about brownell.

I don't care if the ACC is down. If you predicted that Clemson would finish 10th or worse, you are a terrible evaluator of talent, and know nothing of Clemson basketball.

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Re: Let’s revisit the preseason ACC predictions, shall we?

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Mar 8, 2023, 9:40 AM

I still remember when nc tigs predicted that we would only win 4 non conference games 😂😂😂😂

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Re: Let’s revisit the preseason ACC predictions, shall we?

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Mar 8, 2023, 10:26 AM

We lost to two of the worst teams in the country out of conference. YAY!

Look at this schedule - it's embarrassing. In order by NET ranking. Is there any P5 school in the country with a worse OOC schedule and results?

Iowa (NET 37) - LOSS
Penn St (56) - win
Towson (133) - win
Richmond (153) - win
South Carolina (229) - LOSS
USC Upstate (256) - win
Bellarmine (258) - win
Loyola-Chicago (270) - LOSS
California (312) - win
Loyola-MD (320) - win
Citadel (331) - win

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Mar 8, 2023, 4:37 PM

Not only that - he actually commenting in another thread (of his creation) that before the season our OOC schedule looked far more competitive. Both acknowledging that it sucked and that dumpers had reason to believe we would have done worse. Now add in that we were told all off-season Hall was unlikely to play until December and I wonder why some of us might have been so negative.

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Mar 8, 2023, 12:18 PM [ in reply to Re: Let’s revisit the preseason ACC predictions, shall we? ]

Methinks you are lying outright about anyone on here saying we'd finish worse than 11th in the ACC this year. Brad's resume should speak for itself without having to add BS to the mix, no?

Folks on here largely saw our incredibly attractive schedule that minimized the powers and doubled up on the lessers.

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Mar 8, 2023, 12:48 PM

Gosh. As long as BB exceeded media expectations, I'm happy.

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And preseason projections matter how?


Mar 8, 2023, 4:27 PM

You are a joke.

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Mar 8, 2023, 4:31 PM

I hope the Tigers win 1, 2 or 3 more ACC games and get in the NCAAT automatically, but what does it matter if the Tigers were predicted to be 11th, finished 3rd in the regular season and do not make the NCAAT? Nothing, because either way, the end result is the same.

My last comment on this subject is that everyone is freaking out about the basketball team maybe not getting making the NCAAT but many of the same didn't want the football team in the CFP because they believed the Tigers weren't good enough. Does that work both ways? SMH

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It’s been 13 years…


Mar 8, 2023, 5:00 PM

Give it a rest.

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