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Top TigerNet [30287]
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Sankey and Petitti have already started conversations....
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Dec 8, 2024, 7:02 PM
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... about a new playoff system.
Do I know that for a fact? No.
Am I absolutely certain it is true? Yes.
Do you really think Petitti and Sankey are going to sit by and let Clemson, SMU, Boise St, AZ ST and even ND get into the playoffs with only 3 SEC and 4 B1G teams in the playoffs?
This year, with only 3 SEC teams included, may be a blessing in disguise for Petitti and Sankey can come out in a month or so and talk about how "The only way to have a true national champion is to let the best teams play in the playoff. And, clearly, we didn't have that this year. We have to make changes. Fairness demands it."
They will demand no automatic bids, period. And, when they don't get it, they will threaten with, "Give us what we demand or we will just make our own playoff system."
We all know, with almost 100% certainty that in 3 to 5 years that is where we will be. This year's brackets may have made it closer to 3 than to 5.
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Ultimate Tiger [36377]
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Re: Sankey and Petitti have already started conversations....
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Dec 8, 2024, 7:06 PM
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I predicted 75%-80% CFP spots to SEC/BIG in future. Could end up as you say. Would not bet against it.
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CU Medallion [18536]
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Re: Sankey and Petitti have already started conversations....
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Dec 8, 2024, 7:12 PM
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They got 5 of the 7 open slots possible in the system they devised. SMU is the only thing they can have any complaint about. Big10 isn’t going to say a word since they’ve actually gotten the better of this deal. And the SEC complaints aren’t sincere when they’re focused on Bama not making it in despite losing to 2 .500 opponents. The SEC needs to go ahead and break off from NCAA football and simultaneously be given the boot from all other NCAA sports. They can go die on the vine like every other semi-pro and pro football league not named The NFL in history.
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All-In [10171]
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Time for someone to tell them to pound sand. Let them leave!
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Dec 8, 2024, 7:14 PM
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I would rather play in a different and fair league/division than to always have to cower to them. AHOLES are ruining the sport!
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Gridiron Giant [15101]
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Re: Sankey and Petitti have already started conversations....
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Dec 8, 2024, 7:17 PM
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No doubt. And the ACC and Big 12 can't cave when the new demands are made. Call them on their bluff.
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Valley Protector [1488]
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Re: Sankey and Petitti have already started conversations....
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Dec 8, 2024, 7:30 PM
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We wont stop them. This is going to happen.
The best thing the acc can do is partner up with the big 12 and remaining leagues.
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Clemson Icon [27808]
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How about this: OK, Dirtbag, you can have your no-automatic
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Dec 8, 2024, 7:20 PM
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qualifiers. Best teams only.....
BUT, there will be no more polls, including that ESPN-created stillbirth, only the CFP, which will move up earlier in the season. No more ranked teams until the CFP comes up with their own, using their own methodology. Any attempt to create polls will be roundly and soundly condemned as false. That means every school...and dammmmit, I mean, every school will have a chance for equal consideration. Your SEC teams will have no greater import than any others. AND, should you happen to have a mediocre year, you might not even make the CFP.
Either that or you and your B1G conspirator can have a SEC/B1G championship with the qualifier: SEC/B1G CHAMPION...ONLY. The rest of the collegiate football world can then have their own playoffs, crowning THE National Champion...with its own qualifier: (Two conferences opted out by their own choice.)
Sonsab*tches....and that #@%&#@&%$ p.o.s. ESPN along with them.
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Ultimate Tiger [36377]
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Re: How about this: OK, Dirtbag, you can have your no-automatic
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Dec 8, 2024, 7:24 PM
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Heisman Winner [81792]
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eSECpn would never give up the game of pre-season ranking 16 SEC teams in
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Dec 8, 2024, 8:58 PM
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the Top 10 and just swapping rankings when they lose. It's rigged from the get-go.
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Re: How about this: OK, Dirtbag, you can have your no-automatic
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Dec 9, 2024, 6:19 AM
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Yep these pre season polls to bolster their product is nauseating. We played the 5th hardest schedule blah, blah, blah, year in and year out. The ACC and Big12 start the season with one arm tied behind their back.
Do they have great teams, no doubt, but I refuse to buy the hype. And to make matters worse they have ESPN to regurgitate the nonsense every week. They have created a great system for themselves but those with any common sense know that the current system is biased and flawed.
SC, one of their hottest teams was fortunate to win last Saturday and we were not close to fielding one of our better teams. A win in that game would have shut down a lot of noise. I believe they also had the refs in their pockets for the Tech-Ga game and also our game, with the obvious missed calls. Was unaware an OL could bear hug and take down a DL. Refs right behind the plays stood there like he didn’t see a thing.
Do everyone a favor and take your ball and leave. #### on both conferences. I would much rather join forces with the Big 12 than be a part in any of their nonsense.
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Clemson Icon [27845]
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Let the SEC walk if they want to. So, they have their own "SEC Champions of
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Dec 8, 2024, 7:23 PM
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College Football"? Who, outside of the SEC, would give a rat's a$$ about that? Sometimes, an empty bluff is just an empty bluff.
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Re: Sankey and Petitti have already started conversations....
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Dec 8, 2024, 7:30 PM
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You cannot stack a conference with traditional blue bloods of College Football and act as if you own CF. Doesn’t work that way. Granted, the (4) byes could be tweaked. Should SOS play into (Byes) maybe. The Media perception that the SEC is soo much better is a myth somewhat. The SEC champions went to 8 OTs to beat an average (according to experts) Ga Tech team. LVille destroyed KTY. We lost to Scar because of an arrant pass by Cade. SEC needs to be told you don’t run College Football
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Re: Sankey and Petitti have already started conversations....
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Dec 8, 2024, 9:04 PM
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This is a big country—not everyone cares about schools outside their local areas. I can see that flopping and losing viewers. I wouldn't waste my time with an SEC-Big "national championship."
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Orange Blooded [2182]
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There should be a new system.
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Dec 8, 2024, 7:30 PM
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The number 12 team gets a bye, but the number 5 team doesn’t? What a dumb system. Also I’m not a huge fan of the auto qualifiers, but I get why it’s in there. Top 4 teams should get a bye, not top 4 conference champions. Rank all 12, and then seed them that way. Top 4 get byes.
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Orange Blooded [2279]
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Re: There should be a new system.
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Dec 8, 2024, 7:55 PM
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Rankings shouldn’t even come out until November. Pre season rankings mean squat.
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Heisman Winner [81792]
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pre-season rankings mean everything. It sets the narrative. How else
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Dec 8, 2024, 9:00 PM
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could they justify the "quality SEC losses" narrative to bolster their SOS arguments???
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Athletic Dir [1197]
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Re: There should be a new system.
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Dec 8, 2024, 7:57 PM
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You missed the point. The system is set so you don't get only SEC and B1G teams with byes. To counter the inherent bias.
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Re: There should be a new system.
Dec 8, 2024, 9:01 PM
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It's like arguing against the Electoral College. They want it to be a popularity contest and not decided on the field.
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All-In [10171]
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Orange Blooded [2182]
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Well yes, the 12 team format is dumb and unnecessary.
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Dec 8, 2024, 9:46 PM
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4 was fine, and if they HAD to expand it then 8 was sufficient. 12 just waters it down with meaningless games.
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Clemson Conqueror [11432]
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No...the byes are for a purpose...to make a conference championship mean
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Dec 9, 2024, 2:48 AM
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something! If you just give the top four teams byes, the SEC & B10 will get all the byes, because of the bias that they are so much better than everyone else.
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Paw Master [16375]
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Re: There should be a new system.
Dec 9, 2024, 6:49 AM
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The problem with 'ranking' teams is that all you ever get is the eye test and voter prejudice. For something called the COLLEGE FOOTBALL PLAYOFF, every conference champion should be invited to the playoff. I would be happy with a playoff that only included conference champs.
But more teams means more money and the conferences all have too many members. Set up some sort of minimum qualifications for non-champs. Say to participate a team that did not win its league needs to have won 9 games, and the let conference members OR the Conference Comissioner pick x number of teams to represent their conference in the playoff. No conference can ever have more than x reps in the playoff. And tell ND to join a conference or never go to the playoff.
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Orange Blooded [2363]
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Re: There should be a new system.
Dec 9, 2024, 6:56 AM
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That would remove any incentive to play in the conference championship game for most teams. Getting into the playoff with a higher seed will always be more important than taking a chance on losing and possibly falling out of the top 12 for the only benefit of a conference troohy.
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Re: Sankey and Petitti have already started conversations....
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Dec 8, 2024, 7:57 PM
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They can go now as far as I’m concerned…
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Orange Elite [5547]
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Sankey is a playground bully who thinks he's a mafia boss
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Dec 8, 2024, 7:58 PM
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If he tries to take his league independent, I have a notion that his own presidents will back him down. If he can talk them into breaking from the NCAA, it's not a given the B1G will go down the path with them. The risks are far greater than the possible rewards.
Greg just needs someone to step up and punch him in the nose.
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Clemson Conqueror [11432]
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Greg Skanky has done more to screw up college football than anyone else!***
Dec 9, 2024, 2:50 AM
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Dynasty Maker [3389]
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Re: Sankey and Petitti have already started conversations....
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Dec 8, 2024, 8:46 PM
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Talk about someone you want to beat down for destroying a sport. I would love to take this greedy turd to the woodshed.
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Dynasty Maker [3419]
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Re: Sankey and Petitti have already started conversations....
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Dec 8, 2024, 8:52 PM
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Everyone won. The SEC got 3 in. The Big 10 got 4 in. Those 2 leagues got the most in. Notre Dame made it they aren’t going to complain. Maybe only complaint for them is to figure out how to get a buy. Big 12 isn’t going to complain. And really none of the smaller conferences will complain. Boise State getting a 1st round buy makes them all feel good. ACC isn’t going to complain. The conference who started this new super league playoff is the one who is crying about it. Let them cry.
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Dec 9, 2024, 6:25 AM
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Notre Dame got penalized for not playing a Conference Championship game. They went from 4 to 5 (7 seeded) with Boise, Az St and Georgia jumping them and Texas and Penn St not falling below them.
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Rival Killer [2924]
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Good
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Dec 9, 2024, 8:39 AM
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They ought to be penalized. A difficult conference championship game is a very large hurdle to clear. Odds are pretty high for some significant injuries.
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Re: Sankey and Petitti have already started conversations....
Dec 8, 2024, 9:19 PM
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greg sankey loves the darth vadar role.....he's just a dork........he's done nothing......has nothing....and has no power to do anything........except pick up a telephone and run his pie hole
remember folks this is all entertainment , tv execs and ceos decide everything......sankey has as much power as me.....he's just playing a role.
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Let them. That will ensure that any *National Champion"
Dec 8, 2024, 9:29 PM
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they have will be spelled "National*"
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Paw Warrior [4826]
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Re: Sankey and Petitti have already started conversations....
Dec 9, 2024, 3:58 AM
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You mean Fox and ESPN have told them to draft up something better.
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Ultimate Clemson Legend [103185]
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I fully expect the playoff to keep expanding until it's maxed out.
Dec 9, 2024, 6:27 AM
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My original contention is that the super conference should gather up all the top teams into four conferences which consist of 4 pods each with 4-6 teams in each pod.
All first 5 games within the pods and then starts the playoff early in the regular season. Pod winner are in the playoff which would start in October and end early in Jan.
Each conference would determine who plays who throughout the process until the final 8 or maybe even 4.
The media would be left completely out of the process and we the selection committee's job would be limited to seeding.
Obviously that ignores media hype, TV revenues and all other manipulators. Bowl games would happen as usual with bowls having contracts with each conference.
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Offensive Star [345]
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Re: Sankey and Petitti have already started conversations....
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Dec 9, 2024, 7:28 AM
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A UGA/SEC homer told me we should use the BCS or similar system to determine playoff teams.
Sorry, SEC lovers. You, like every other conference, had your tournament to determine who gets into the playoff. You don't get to claim the benefits of being in the "best" conference while never experiencing a downside.
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