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CU Medallion [58452]
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Disgusting and infuriating that our government has created a situation
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Mar 19, 2024, 1:54 PM
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which has provided massive income streams for drug cartels by encouraging people to come here in droves based on the belief that they will be allowed in no matter what. If they knew they probably wouldn't be allowed in without due process, far fewer would come in the first place; it really is that simple. The solution is to stop letting them in without traditional due process. Instead, they believe they will be allowed into the U.S. no matter what, so they become prey for the drug cartels to exploit in all kinds of horrific, inhumane ways. Our border policy drives every bit of this.
A commitment to real border security and policy that puts the good of U.S. citizens ahead of concern for migrants is the answer, and it could be done today by a government who had those priorities.
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This is too complicated for the average
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Mar 19, 2024, 1:57 PM
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democrat to understand. They fundamentally cannot understand a second-order effect or an unintended consequence.
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Orange Blooded [4793]
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Re: Disgusting and infuriating that our government has created a situation
Mar 19, 2024, 2:02 PM
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That's a lie. We just need some shiny new laws and all of this goes away overnight.
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Orange Blooded [4021]
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Re: Disgusting and infuriating that our government has created a situation
Mar 19, 2024, 3:19 PM
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You are 100% correct. Congrats on your pragmatic thought.
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That sounds like the bipartisan bill Sen. James Lankford (R) negotiated
Mar 19, 2024, 2:24 PM
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but Trump won't allow a vote on and would easily pass.
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Total BS Bill for a variety of reasons. Lankford is a Dem cuck.***
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Mar 19, 2024, 2:26 PM
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Trump won't allow a vote on it because it would pass.
Mar 19, 2024, 2:28 PM
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Evidently, Lankford is one of a few Dem cucks in the Republican Party. ST isn't a Dem cuck.
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That's exactly what I meant...***
Mar 19, 2024, 2:29 PM
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Well, at least we both agree that the Republican Party is broken.
Mar 19, 2024, 2:37 PM
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We just disagree on what the problem is and what the solution is.
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I agree that Lankford doesn't belong, whatever his supposed claim to being
Mar 19, 2024, 2:45 PM
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some kind of staunch conservative... He's far from it.
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Re: I agree that Lankford doesn't belong, whatever his supposed claim to being
Mar 19, 2024, 2:48 PM
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Isn’t he a southern Baptist preacher?
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How does that make a difference? I was 'raised' S.Baptist. I believe in the
Mar 19, 2024, 4:32 PM
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Ten Commandants. That in no way means I align with all their political tenets.
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Re: How does that make a difference? I was 'raised' S.Baptist. I believe in the
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Mar 19, 2024, 5:02 PM
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I mean it’s probably pretty unlikely that the Baptist minister is some flaming liberal, don’t you think?
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No. As I stated, he's a Dem cuck, bought and sold.***
Mar 20, 2024, 12:19 PM
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Hall of Famer [24815]
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Actually, it's hard to even state what "true conservative" means nowadays.
Mar 19, 2024, 4:36 PM
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I know I wouldn't qualify on several specific issues that are typically portrayed as 'being conservative'.
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No, its not.
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Mar 19, 2024, 5:01 PM
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The definition of conservative hasn't changed..just the people who are using it as their description to try and mask whateverthehell they really are.
Trump is not now, and never has been a conservative.
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Who is/was the original arbiter of 'Conservatism'...? Time is fickle(d).***
Mar 20, 2024, 12:24 PM
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Oculus Spirit [81078]
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In the US? George Washington.
Mar 20, 2024, 2:33 PM
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Next question?
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Hall of Famer [22395]
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It addressed every concern in your original post.
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Mar 19, 2024, 3:02 PM
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Those on the right who wish to compromise on legislation have become theatrical cucks.
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What you characterize as "compromise" is more like "capitulation". Thus "cuck".***
Mar 19, 2024, 4:37 PM
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My point exactly.***
Mar 19, 2024, 4:56 PM
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And it was BS. 84 billion of the 118 billion dollars in the bill were for
Mar 19, 2024, 10:41 PM
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aid to Ukraine, Israel, and Gaza. Total BS that never had a chance. It wasn't really a border bill, it was a foreign aid bill. If they want to fix the border, they could do all of it today, and leave out anything not border-related. I don't give Trump or pubs a pass by any means, but dems don't get a pass either. It was political theater by all parties.
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Sigh ...
Mar 20, 2024, 11:35 AM
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Some of you are only capable of viewing everything through a hyperpartisan political lens. Sad - not LOL.
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Re: Sigh ...
Mar 20, 2024, 12:16 PM
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The Border Bill was bipartisan. You're the one trying to make it partisan. 😆
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Re: Sigh ...
Mar 20, 2024, 12:57 PM
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Why do we need a border bill?
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CU Medallion [58452]
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Uhhhhhh ...
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You are warped. Nowhere have I mentioned pubs or dems, or Biden or Trump, except to say that neither gets a pass, and it was political theater by all involved.
You, however, immediately assumed I was being partisan, since that is your narrow, limited perspective, and the only way you view everything, from the weather to dogs to food to of course, politics.
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Re: Uhhhhhh ...
Mar 20, 2024, 2:04 PM
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We were discussing the BIPARTISAN Border Bill in which YOU were complaining about it being an aid bill to UKR. I was was reminding you (since you were suffering from amnesia) the reasons why the two issues were tied together and you went off on the "hyperpartisan" response. So much projection. 😆
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I'm sorry if you were dropped on your head as a child.
Mar 20, 2024, 10:44 PM
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I started this whole thread pointing out that our government has created this problem and is not fixing it. No mention of any side or party. Someone responded bringing up the bipartisan bill, criticizing Trump. That made it partisan. My direct response to that once again was not partisan, as I noted the bill was "political theater by ALL INVOLVED". I subsequently pointed out that neither side gets a pass. YOUR response was 100%, blatantly, unapologetically partisan. I simply pointed that out AFTER you and others had already introduced the partisan perspective.
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Re: That sounds like the bipartisan bill Sen. James Lankford (R) negotiated
Mar 19, 2024, 5:09 PM
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Are you in denial that the Speaker of the House is bootlicker? 😆
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How about we blame the people using the drugs
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Mar 19, 2024, 6:04 PM
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instead, they are the reason there are cartels and drugs along our southern border. Our laws are draconian enough when it comes to trafficking. But every time some New York hedge fund manager snorts a rail off a stripper's thong, a n innocent child is shot in Juarez.
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I do blame them as well, but rich Republicn hedge fund managers
Mar 19, 2024, 10:43 PM
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aren't driving the problem at the border. It's the belief that people who come here will get in that drives it.
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Re: I do blame them as well, but rich Republicn hedge fund managers
Mar 20, 2024, 6:34 PM
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It does not matter what our federal government does, Drugs will always find their way into this country, one way or another as long as there is a demand.
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CU Medallion [58452]
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I don't disagree - never did.***
Mar 20, 2024, 9:19 PM
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Re: How about we blame the people using the drugs
Mar 20, 2024, 12:49 PM
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I know right? Let’s blame anyone but the illegal brown people bc that would be racist right? Please pleeeease don’t blame the drug cartels, it’s not their fault we do drugs. God forbid you say something negative about an illegal immigrant or a drug cartel. You’d be racist then. You just can’t have that, can you? Maybe you should volunteer to be a sponsor home.
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Calling others racist sends the desired signal and provides a sense of instant
Mar 20, 2024, 2:33 PM
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moral and intellectual superiority (for those who need that).
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