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All-TigerNet [10892]
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Whoopsie!
Nov 23, 2021, 1:35 PM
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Nobody saw this coming!
https://archive.ph/Nq6Bj
"Abstract 10712: Mrna COVID Vaccines Dramatically Increase Endothelial Inflammatory Markers and ACS Risk as Measured by the PULS Cardiac Test: a Warning"
The link is to an internet archive version of the study, because it will probably get censored/edited/etc
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Re: Whoopsie!
Nov 23, 2021, 2:04 PM
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J&J has to be the best of the three
(for not destroying your own immune system)
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I love these studies, really they're great***
Nov 23, 2021, 2:30 PM
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Re: Whoopsie!
Nov 23, 2021, 3:06 PM
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Steven Gundry MD is no stranger to controversy. For the sake of argument, taking at face value everything he asserts, what does he have to say about the inflammatory effects of COVID on the heart and other organs?
I'm open to science showing the vaccine could prove more risky than is known at this time, but that will have to come from a different source than Gundry.
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All-TigerNet [10892]
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Trust the science!***
Nov 23, 2021, 3:07 PM
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Re: Whoopsie!
Nov 23, 2021, 3:08 PM
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All I know is I have had all kinds of issues in the 2 years since having Covid and the 9 months or so past getting vaccinated....heart, liver, spleen. Then again, it could have been all of the booze.
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Re: Whoopsie!
Nov 23, 2021, 5:48 PM
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are you serious?
i have some issues after covid, still have some lung issues
what you got?
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Re: Whoopsie!
Nov 23, 2021, 6:57 PM
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Re: Whoopsie!
Nov 23, 2021, 7:27 PM
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august 24th got my first symptoms, think i got it from an interm preacher who insisted on shaking hands
tested positive august 31st, tested not detected september 21st
thought that i was dun n dun when my hands and face (lips) turned blue
went to the hospital twice and they would not take me, said my vitals were too strong
said come back if you get worse
guess the worst was about 10 days, then started feeling better
i am about 90% recovered
did not make any games, since where i park, dont think i can make the walk
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Re: Whoopsie!
Nov 23, 2021, 7:30 PM
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my first wife had it at the same time, she had a headache for 3 days and was over it
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Rock Defender [53]
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Re: Whoopsie!
Nov 23, 2021, 7:40 PM
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Oculus Spirit [97731]
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This is just like the myocarditis study.
Nov 23, 2021, 3:20 PM
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They found an elevated risk of myocarditis in people who received the mRNA vaccines. 54 in 2.4 million, a massively high rate. (Higher than baseline pre covid). Then they found 15 in 100,000 younger people who got the mRNA vaccine got it, a MUCH higher rate. However, Ohio State studied over 100 healthy, unvaccinated (pre vaccine) college athletes who got natural covid and recovered and found 10-15% showed signs of myocarditis. This is why Ohio State and the Big 10 started their football season late and almost cancelled it. Everyone chose to forget about that.
So you can get the vaccine and have a 15/100,000 chance of getting it.... if young. OR, you can skip the vaccine, and if you get covid you have a 15/100 chance of getting the same thing. And if you assume you will eventually get covid, then the math is simple. Or should be.
This is the same thing, I'd wager. Covid causes heart problems, sometimes bad ones. But assuming you will get covid, you can pick the 15/100 heart problem probability unvaccinated, or the 15/100,000 probability of getting the SAME THING, vaccinated. Now if that vaccine makes you 12 times less likely to die from covid, and covid IS the NUMBER ONE cause of death in the US (since the first case - #3 last year though), then again the math is simple.
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Re: Whoopsie!
Nov 23, 2021, 4:26 PM
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You have often stated that COVID is a hoax. If so, no studies are needed on COVID and certainly it wouldn't make sense to take any vaccine for a disease that is a hoax.
Do you still believe COVID is a hoax? Just curious. BTW, I don't care if you or anyone makes the choice to not take the vaccine.
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