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is she hot?***
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Nope, none of the people involved in this are remotely attractive
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except Greenr, he is fine as fu>ck
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It's gone
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Nov 9, 2023, 10:37 AM
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but you knew that. But will make you feel good giving this friend a much needed gift.
JMO
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Heisman Winner [106612]
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It's all about them kids, it is hard enough on them. I'd do it for them
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Nov 9, 2023, 10:42 AM
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I guess
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if you're hiring the lawyer
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Nov 9, 2023, 10:38 AM
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couldn't you work w/ lawyer and said friend / client to put a clause in your agreement stating that you get paid back?
I have a sneaky suspicion...if this is the female you're funding going after the male...in SC...and she has kids....and what you say is even half true......hooooooooobuddy he vizzina get it right up the sphincter dry and splintery.
get a good lawyer. tree fiddy don't sound like enough.
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Oculus Spirit [81765]
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That dude doesn't have a chance even without kids.
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Nov 9, 2023, 10:42 AM
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With'em, he is double fscked. He'll be lucky if he'll be able to afford to sleep indoors by the time the court is done with him.
$350 sounds about right for a consultation. $500 will get you someone that's on their own and not tied up to a huge firm.
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Better yet, from my experience with this matter, I would suggest having the
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Nov 9, 2023, 10:42 AM
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lawyer put in a clause that requires she sucks you off also.
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Hard pass. I like having my wang mouthified
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Nov 9, 2023, 10:46 AM
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by the right people.
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I got no clue, but I imagine the ole P.O.S. has zero dollhairs to
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Nov 9, 2023, 10:45 AM
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their name so it would be hard to get anything out except wage garnishments until the kids turn 18.
What I am telling you is 100% the truth AS FAR AS I KNOW IT.
Friend of a friend went through this, 4 kids, husband was cheating, he got hit with $60k per year in child support, so he reconciled with wife and they live "happily ever after."
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Did you get mouthified in that one, at least ? ?***
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Nov 9, 2023, 1:04 PM
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There's going to be some ethical problems with that for the lawyer.
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Nov 9, 2023, 10:47 AM
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I doubt a lawyer is going to enter into a contract like that. The lawyer has to represent the client, not the person who is paying. You are putting them in a tricky situation by asking them to protect your money while also representing the friend. It can be done but it isn't ideal.
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I'd pay the lawyer directly, but they wouldn't be working for me.
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Nov 9, 2023, 11:18 AM
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I'm just paying them directly because it cuts out a middle man and because I know them personally.
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110%er [7171]
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Gotcha. I was just responding to the suggestion that the attorney
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Nov 9, 2023, 11:28 AM
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agreement include a clause stating you will be paid back. It sounds like you have a good handle on it.
You're a good friend for doing this, btw.
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i was just looking at it from the lens
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Nov 9, 2023, 4:12 PM
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of a salesman you know
ain't skeered to toss me a rider in a contract, nomsayin
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It's a gift. If she EVER pays you back it'll be a nice surprise.***
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Re: On a scale of dumb to f*cking stupid, where would you rank this?
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Nov 9, 2023, 10:42 AM
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I have loaned a lot of money in my life. I think I have been pain back once or maybe twice. I bet he gets you back one day though if he doesnt develop a subtance abuse prob due to all of this. Hopefully the lady gets hit by a bus though and she has a life insurance policy.
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I think friend of is the female
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Nov 9, 2023, 10:43 AM
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At least thats how I read it.
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Re: I think friend of is the female
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Nov 9, 2023, 10:46 AM
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Well, then he will never get the money.
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pretty f'n dumm
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Nov 9, 2023, 10:42 AM
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Hey, have you sh|t in her mailbox yet?
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Oculus Spirit [76804]
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If they file as a fault divorce like cheating or drugs
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Nov 9, 2023, 10:43 AM
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And must have substantial evidence then sometimes the judge will make the defendant pay the attorney fees. But I can tell you from experience that getting a judge to order the other party to repay lawyer fees in SC is very very difficult. It’s never happened for me and I did have a lot of evidence and such.
Also is the spouse going to fight it for custody or would they just agree to child support by guidelines and judge browns custody? Judge browns is when the other person gets every other weekend and splits holidays etc. If they are agreeing to those things then it’s a simple hearing where papers have already been signed and the judge asked if they agree, not much cost here.
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Oculus Spirit [81765]
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I knew a girl once that was married and filed and said she was cheating
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Nov 9, 2023, 10:48 AM
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She wasn't, she just wanted the eff away from her husband ASAP. Took her dog and and her clothes and left.
I also know of a woman that got thrown in jail for something (dui or a wreck of something) and was doing some time and got a divorce while she was away. She had half his stuff waiting for her when she got out...AND alimony for life.
In the game of family court, women win.
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No clue, but spouse said they will sign over rights
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Nov 9, 2023, 10:49 AM
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so friend never gets a dollar out of them. I don't think it works that way at all.
There is evidence, like P.I. has pics, new side piece has them together as facebook profile pic, spouse moved in with new side piece. AMPLE evidence.
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Oculus Spirit [76804]
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Signing over your parent rights is quite the POS move
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Nov 9, 2023, 10:52 AM
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I can’t ever even imagine! I may not see my kids as much as I want to but got dang I still see them and love them and go places w them, vacation w them, have half the summer and holidays. Totally worth the child support every month
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Hey newb - did you ever post them hanger pics as required by law ?
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Nov 9, 2023, 1:17 PM
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I don't remember seeing big, raw, sunlight-breathing beefer photos from you . . . .
And check yo Tmale.
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The best way to get divorced is be broke.
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Nov 9, 2023, 10:54 AM
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There's a lot less to have taken from you.
Ever hear of dudes who have been divorced 2, 3, or even 4 times? By the time number 3 comes along they are completely broke anyway and don't care. If this dude is a low earner he's at the "don't give a chit" level.
If I were him, I'd find some beach in Mexico or Bahamas to live on. Nobody poor mf-er is getting extradited for child support or alimony.
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If shiat gets complicated it can cost a ton of money.
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Nov 9, 2023, 10:45 AM
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My divorce lawyer bills added up to over 50k over years and years
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lol, we get over this initial fee and Greenr is
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Nov 9, 2023, 10:50 AM
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out like a boner in sweatpants. Cheaper to keeper if you broke.
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Is it possible for spouse to start an only fans???
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Nov 9, 2023, 10:54 AM
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To make up the difference for lawyer fees? This seems like a viable solution
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You don't loan money to friends or family
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Nov 9, 2023, 10:50 AM
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that's called a gift. You will never see that money again.
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Oculus Spirit [76804]
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Bro, can you loan me some cash?
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Nov 9, 2023, 10:55 AM
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I promise ill pay you back when i can…
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As your internet friend, I rank this as f*cking stupid
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Nov 9, 2023, 10:55 AM
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Legal bills are ALWAYS more than you think they will be. Divorces can get extremely, extremely nasty, expensive, and time consuming. It may look simple: husband (I assume) is cheating POS who has abandoned the family? He will tell a different story. Even if he's lying, he gets the opportunity to tell it. And it will cost time and money to refute him. I would be shocked if it doesn't cost five figures.
If her situation is as bad financially as you say, there should be some lost cost or pro bono options. The best thing you can do is set her up with a lawyer who can help her.
Here are some good resources to start with:
https://www.scbar.org/public/get-legal-help/find-lawyer-or-mediator/pro-bono-resources/
https://www.scaccesstojustice.org/family-cases
Depending on where she lives, the county bar association may have more resources.
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There needs to be a lot more awareness placed around the real costs
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Nov 9, 2023, 11:03 AM
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of having children and/or getting married, and the affects either can have on your life long term. I men when you're young you never think you're going to live to be old. But then, somehow, you do. And one day you wake up to find out you owe them money for the rest of your life. Who the eff thinks about that kinda liability when they are 18?
Kinda like banking and finance in high school...this is the kinda stuff that needs to be taught to the younger generation, if not in high school, then definitely in college. But getting a female teacher to teach males about alimony and divorce costs probably won't happen.
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Amen.***
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Not sure what you mean?***
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You regularly post about how unfair divorce is to men and how men
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Nov 9, 2023, 11:29 AM
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shouldn't get married because the wife can take everything in divorce. I'm asking why you feel so strongly about that.
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Because its true.***
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Similar to my future conversation with my son about drugs, that will
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Nov 9, 2023, 11:10 AM
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be included about sex. If you're going to bang, you better be ready to shoulder the consequences. Loss of freedom. Financial burdens. Responsibility. And if you're not ready to do it, do not enter the forbidden cave. BECAUSE THE ONLY 100% PROVEN METHOD OF BIRTH CONTROL IS ABSTINENCE AND ALAN.
Drug talk is, wait until you have something to lose because that will keep yo high ### responsibly using.
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I wish I would have done a lot more drugs in college.
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Nov 9, 2023, 11:26 AM
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I had the available time, and was already dumb, so it would have been a good mix. I feel like the 55 year old virgin at this point. What was I saving myself for? Getting rich or something? lulz.
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See you wouldn't be listening to my rules.
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You don't have anything to lose in college and that's why druggies drop out.
Wait till you have a job. Then you know you can't overdo it or you'll be homeless.
Here's my advice. Find someone with a molly hookup. Go roll at a dance club and have the most wonderful night of your life.
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My days of going to a "dance club" have long since past***
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All I'm saying is you're never too old to do the fun drugs.***
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When I get to the point of not having to take drug tests ever again
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Nov 9, 2023, 12:54 PM
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Its going to be an entirely different life for me.
I stupidly used to worry about that kind of dumb #### in college, and now feel dumber for it.
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Oculus Spirit [81765]
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I don't even know where a "dance club" is.
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Nov 9, 2023, 4:24 PM
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So going to one would be...difficult.
Some friends made me go to Rick's when we were at the keys, but I just hung out at the bar and drank beer. Had I thought about it, I would have just walked down to Captain Tony's.
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Concurring with the sentiment here that if you front this money it's best to
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look at it as a charitable donation, and if it gets paid back, that's money you weren't expecting.
As ancillary advice seeing what my sister went through, go scorched earth and do not look back. Do not compromise. Do not show mercy. Go straight for the jugular and even after you watch the light go out in their eyes, hang on long enough to ensure the air is out of their lungs as well. A POS will exploit every bone thrown to them, and will use it to make the partner's life a living hell.
No mercy.
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Re: On a scale of dumb to f*cking stupid, where would you rank this?
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I just paid for my daughters divorce in SC.
If there are kids, the divorce takes a year, but if there is proof of cheating or physical abuse I think it can be as quick as 60 days.
Tell him to gather his proof of her cheating. She currently (probably) doesn't want the kids, but this will change once she discovers she'll be court ordered to pay child support.
Also, I'm guessing your friend will lose his place to stay if he's staying with her parents.
I won't tell you what I spent on her divorce...but she filed, had all the proof she needed...and 2 weeks later the COVID shut down the courts. #### thing dragged on for 2 years.
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Would not do considering the relatively high likely hood friend gets
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back with POS spouse. It doesn't make sense to people on the outside looking in, but for whatever reason it's pretty common for someone like that to go back.
POS spouse will also find out you have at least partially funded the divorce and is going to take that personally. You never know what someone is capable of, I don't think I'd want my family involved in all that.
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First part has certainly crossed my mind. Second part is something
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I certainly hadn't considered.
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Love/sex, money and drugs drive most of the violent crime
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This ordeal involves 2/3 of those things....But I also have no idea what kind of people you're dealing with here.
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Loyal friend.***
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Why bother with a P.I.?
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If I'm not mistaken, I don't think infidelity really changes much in divorce proceedings in SC.
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Has sway with judges and can be a bar to alimony***
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Infedility will do two things. maybe 3.
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1) guarantees the cheating spouse won't get alimony
2) if the cheating spouses agrees that they have been cheating, it can result in getting out of the marriage in 90 days, vs requiring a year separation first. in SC drug abuse/alcoholism and abuse are also 90 days deals. Honestly, aside from the alimony thing, I'm not sure why every couple that has grown to hate each other doesn't just say they were cheating just to get away from each other faster.
I knew a girl who went through a divorce after being married for ~9 months. Her (ex)husband thought he was going to make some money out of it I guess (she was starting a job as a PA), and drug out the divorce to 18 months to finalize everything. All she had was school debt; I'm not sure why she didn't just say she was cheating to just to get away from him. In the end, I don't think he ever signed the divorce papers; I think the judge decreed the marriage was finalized as over and fined the guy for contempt of court.
3) Depends on the circumstances and the judge I guess..but if dissolution of property has come to the court (and not the couple during mediation) to decide, I guess one party cheating could sway that...even though its not supposed to.
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Greenr is a good friend, but yeah that money's gone.***
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What if I told you, Greenr is NOT a good friend, but he is
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married to a really good person who keeps him in line.
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That is all (well, most) of us***
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I'd have to be a lot closer to the people involved to be able to facilitate...
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a divorce so I can't say about the loan.
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This is why you gotta pick your "friends" wisely
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In all seriousness, what is she hoping to achieve with a lawyer?
Sounds like he's a POS and she could save a lot of time and money by not using attorneys to end up getting nothing out of him in the long run. If he doesn't have any money, and like you said payroll garnishments are the best she can hope for why spend the money.
IMO the money would be better spent on getting her established in getting her new life started.
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Oculus Spirit [81765]
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You're not wrong.
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Dude knows he doesn't have anything to lose, because he has nothing to take, and obviously doesn't care about those kids. She's wasting her time and Greenr®'s money chasing this dude down to maybe get some child support garnished from whatever weakass check he's bringing home.
My guess is he's working some throwaway gig that he'll quit/get fired from, hop to another state and get another job just like it, causing her to spend even more money tracking him down to go through it all again. Then by the time that happens...he'll be gone again.
Eventually, he'll prob get thrown in jail from a bench warrant because he owes her money...but how do you get money from someone who is in jail? If any of what I just said is true...she cares about him way more than he does. Her best option is to prove he is cheating and divorce him, get away from him in 90 days and move on. Sick the cops on him or child support if she wants, but they won't do anything about it.
That's why I said this:
https://www.tigernet.com/clemson-forum/message/the-best-way-to-get-divorced-is-be-broke.-33796994
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Nov 9, 2023, 4:17 PM
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“Hi guys, one night a couple weeks ago my wife came home from Bunko and brought home this 20-something smokeshow stripper with her and it’s been nothing but hours of wild threesomes since then. Anyways, she has a friend who is getting divorced and if I chipped in $500 the friend would be on permanent call for the occasional foursome. So my question is what’s the best lotion to use when your wiener is just banged completely raw?”
Is this close?
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Nov 9, 2023, 4:19 PM
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#soclose
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