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Tiger Titan [51053]
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The simplest theory is this.
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Nov 13, 2025, 3:56 PM
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Trump knew of Epstein's activities, benefitted from his relationship with Epstein, probably even got a woman or two from that relationship, but none were minors and Trump never was a "client" like the other guys.
But Trump did nothing to stop Epstein because Trump has no morals or ethics, and it "wasn't his problem." Plus, it would have jeopardized the business relationship.
What MAGA has to decide is whether knowing but doing nothing is forgivable. Which of course they do. And you have guys like Kiwi who could walk in on Drump ballsdeep in a 14yo and would give Trump a free pass because Biden would have banged a 13yo.
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Re: The simplest theory is this.
Nov 13, 2025, 4:07 PM
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100% agree with you! As much as I despise big orange and know he’s absolute trash, I don’t necessarily think he’s guilty of child sexual abuse. I do think he was very aware of what Epstein was doing and just ignored it. It takes an evil person to do that. He should have contacted the police years ago. It would have saved many of the victims from being abused. It’s effing ridiculous how the magats just ignore what’s right in their faces. They are too fixated on the immigrants and trans people that they hate so much. They will believe anything that is negative about Trump is fake news. He’s set them up to believe that by constantly repeating it. It’s embarrassing
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What would make you think he wasn't guilty?
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Nov 13, 2025, 4:20 PM
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Is it his consistent in-on-the grift, morally bankrupt personality, his past of banging and subsequent hush money payoff of pr0n stars (with campaign funds no less), his desire to date his own daughter, or his self admitted penchant for "grabbing women by the pvssy"?
I know that all adds up to be stellar example of someone young men should look up to (and young women should fear), but I guess my real question is why wouldn't you think he is both capable and guilty of pedophilia with female children?
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He also bought the Miss Teen USA pageant so he could walk in on young girls
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Nov 13, 2025, 4:24 PM
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and see them naked.
The idea that he has no morals or ethics but drew the line at participating strikes me as nuanced, not simple, and unlikely.
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That's the direction I'm leaning. I can't believe trump would run on "Release
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Nov 13, 2025, 4:13 PM
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the Files!" if he knew he had been hitting some minors. I think after he was elected, his people saw the files and said - "uh, so you knew this was happening?" and trump said "yes. Is that wrong?"
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Tiger Titan [51301]
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I had a MAGA client explain that the number of pictures of Trump with Epstein...
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Nov 13, 2025, 4:35 PM
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Were from the years he spent undercover to expose Epstein.
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Had not heard that one...so he's the hero! : - )***
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Nov 13, 2025, 4:54 PM
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He really wasn't running on that, though. He was asked about it, and he knew
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Nov 13, 2025, 4:36 PM
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the absolute WRONG answer would be "no, I won't release the files". That's why he gave several wishywashy answers like "I'd look at doing that, but there are a lot of good people that need to be protected, yaddayadda noncommittalbullshit..."
His preference CLEARLY would have been to not have to address the Epstein files at all. When it was obvious he was going to have to, he gave that halfass answer with getting elected as the goal, and then managing the Epstein situation after he was in office, even if that meant not releasing the files at all (and worse, pretending like they don't exist and that people are stupid for asking about them).
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Valley Legend [12425]
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Got it. Several days ago, I googled whether Trump actually campaigned on
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Nov 13, 2025, 4:58 PM
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releasing the files - and the AI answer said he did. But as we are all learning, those AI answers are often incorrect. I'll look a little closer...
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Tiger Titan [51301]
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FOX edited that clip...
Nov 14, 2025, 11:46 AM
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There was a significant delay between the question and the answer, but they took the delay out and made it appear he answered immediately. But you're right he then walked it back.
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Re: The simplest theory is this.
Nov 13, 2025, 4:14 PM
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What do you want them to do that is rational?
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I mean MAGA has already forgiven him for ###### grown women...***
Nov 13, 2025, 4:29 PM
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Maybe.
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Nov 13, 2025, 4:31 PM
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There's just a little too much of this smoke wafting around for me to believe it though.
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^^^this^^^
Nov 13, 2025, 4:49 PM
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He was all in on it, got the poker chip, t-shirt, and probably used Epstein's girls with clients.
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How is this the simplest theory?
Nov 13, 2025, 5:45 PM
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"He’s a lot of fun to be with. It is even said that he likes beautiful women as much as I do, and many of them are on the younger side.” - Donald Trump
The simplest answer is he was part of the Epstein orgies.
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I give no one a pass; especially those that just make up ### due to TDS.***
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Nov 13, 2025, 6:28 PM
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I dont typically hop in political posts. This is just one of those few times I
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Nov 13, 2025, 6:33 PM
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came over here.
What you said is what I believe.
I also believe this. Every single administration that does not fully disclose everything on these files is an indictment on their heads.
Release the full thing and prosecute every single one of those effers.
It started with Biden's... maybe before that, I dont really remember when they had the investigation. It is now on Trump's, and sadly it will probably be on the next and the next.
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more like a holy theory, holes galore***
Nov 13, 2025, 6:44 PM
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Re: The simplest theory is this.
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Nov 13, 2025, 8:36 PM
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Here's a simpler one: Trump and Epstein - two peas in a pod, which should surprise exactly no one.
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"two peas in a pod" sounds like
Nov 13, 2025, 11:38 PM
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something off of the menu at that pizza gate place
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Nov 13, 2025, 9:46 PM
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I don’t disagree, although nothing Trump did/does would surprise me. At the very least, he knew what Epstein was doing and he did nothing. That alone should result in impeachment and removal from office.
At the end of the day, whether Trump is a pedo matters much less to me than bringing down EVERYONE involved in this.
MAGA knows who Trump is and they don’t care. He’s done plenty that should disqualify him. The man is a monster. I can’t take credit for the list below…could some be lies…sure. Is it likely that they all are…no way.
E. Jean Carroll, a journalist, has alleged that Mr Trump sexually assaulted her in a dressing room at a Bergdorf Goodman store in New York in the 1990s.
Alva Johnson, a former Trump campaign staffer, said she had to avoid a kiss from Mr Trump while on a trip to Florida in August of 2016. The White House has denied this most recent accusation, as have some members of the Trump team who say they were present
Jessica Leeds, a former traveling salesperson, alleged that Mr Trump grabbed her breasts and tried to put his hand up her skirt while on a first-class flight in the 1980s. Ms Leeds was in her late 30s at the time.
Ivana Trump, Mr Trump’s first wife, once used the word “rape” to describe an encounter with him. The accusation was made in a 1993 book following a divorce settlement between the two. She has since softened her language, saying that she didn’t mean the word in a “literal or criminal sense”.
Jill Harth, a former business partner of Mr Trump’s, said that Mr Trump forcibly kissed her on the lips, groped her breasts, and grabbed her ######## in what she described in a 1997 as an “attempted rape”. The encounter allegedly occurred at Mr Trump’s Mar-a-Lago estate, in one of his children’s bedroom. She also says that Mr Trump groped her under the table at a dinner with colleagues at the Plaza Hotel.
Kristen Anderson alleged that Mr Trump put his hand up her skirt and touched her ######## over her underwear at the China Club in Manhattan at some point in the early 1990s when she was in her early 20s. Ms Anderson was an aspiring model at the time.
Lisa Boyne accused Mr Trump of insisting that female models walk across a table at a New York restaurant in 1996, and then remarking on their underwear and genitalia. She was 25 at the time.
Cathy Heller says that Mr Trump forcibly kissed her on the lips during a Mother’s Day brunch at mar-a-Lago in 1997.
Temple Taggart, a former Miss Utah, alleged that Mr Trump forcibly kissed her on the mouth on two different occasions. The first incident was the first time that they met. The incidents occurred at the 1997 Miss USA pageant event, and in Trump Tower.
Mariah Billado, a former Miss Vermont Teen USA, has alleged that says that Mr Trump walked into a dressing room unannounced in 1997. She said that there were several teen beauty queens aged between 15 and 19 in the room naked at the time.
Karena Virginia alleged that Mr Trump grabbed her arm and touched her breast while she was waiting for a car after the US Open.
Bridget Sullivan, a former Miss New Hampshire, alleged that Mr Trump walked into the Miss USA pageant dressing room in 2000 while contestants were naked. She was 19 at the time.
Tasha Dixon, a former Miss Arizona, alleged that Mr Trump entered dressing rooms at the Miss USA pageant in 2001 while contestants were “half-naked”.
Melinda Macgillivray alleged that Mr Trump grabbed her buttock in a pavilion behind the main house of his Mar-a-Lago estate in 2003. They were in the middle of a group of people, she said, and it was during a concert performed by Ray Charles.
Jennifer Murphy said that Mr Trump forcibly kissed her after a job interview in 2005. She was 26 at the time.
Rachel Cooks alleged that Mr Trump kissed her forcibly on the lips outside the elevator in Trump Tower in 2005. She was 22 at the time.
Natasha Stoynoff alleged that Mr Trump pushed her against a wall and forcibly kissed her in a closed-door room in his Mar-a-Lago estate in 2005. Ms Stoynoff, a writer for PEOPLE magazine, was there to interview Mr Trump.
Ninni Laaksonen alleged that Mr Trump grabbed her buttocks while taking photos outside the Ed Sullivan Theater, and before Mr Trump appeared on the Late Show with David Letterman. Ms Laaksonen was 20 at the time, in 2006.
Jessica Drake alleged that Mr Trump forcibly kissed her and two female friends in 2006, when she was 32. When she pushed him away, she said that he asked her: “How much?”
Samantha Holvey, a former Miss North Carolina, alleged that Mr Trump treated women like “meat” and would barge into dressing rooms to inspect women. She said the incidents occurred in 2006, when she was 20.
Summer Zervos alleged that Mr Trump grabbed her by her shoulders and forcibly kissed her, and groped her breasts, while she was a contestant on The Apprentice in 2007. She said the incidents took place at Trump Tower in New York, and at a hotel in Los Angeles.
Cassandra Searles, a former Miss Washington, said that Mr Trump grabbed her buttocks repeatedly in 2013 during the Miss USA pageant in 2013. She said that he also invited her to his hotel room.
Karen Johnson, who said Mr Trump pulled her into a tapestry by her crotch at a New Year's Eve party in the early 2000s.
Amy Dorris, a former model who claims Mr Trump assaulted her at the 1997 US Open tennis tournament. She alleges that he forcibly kissed her and groped her in the bathroom in his VIP box. Her account has been corroborated by several people she told about the incident at the time.
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Paw Warrior [4700]
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Re: The simplest theory is this.
Nov 14, 2025, 5:55 AM
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Bro, no one is gonna read all of that.
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I read every one of them
Nov 14, 2025, 10:51 AM
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Perhaps you should as well.
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THERE is the simplest answer.
Nov 14, 2025, 10:55 AM
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And THIS is the main thing that needs to come out all this stuff.
The French didn't tolerate the two tier system of justice we have; why do we?
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