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A little stat I just noticed. Louisville has played the

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Posted: Sep 26, 2016, 10:50 PM
 

113th,86th,111th, and 93rd ranked defenses in the country. Maybe,just maybe, our defense will provide a bigger test.

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Re: A little stat I just noticed. Louisville has played the

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Posted: Sep 26, 2016, 10:56 PM
 

Nice! I have complete faith in BV and all our coaches.

Tigers win this Saturday!

Go Tigers!!!

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Question though, is that before or after they played Lville?

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Posted: Sep 26, 2016, 11:09 PM
 

Thats my only concern from that stat

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You have a point. I do know that GT was averaging a lot

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Posted: Sep 26, 2016, 11:13 PM
 

more yards rushing, yards passing,and point scoring before they played Clemson than after they played Clemson.

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Re: Question though, is that before or after they played Lville?


Posted: Sep 26, 2016, 11:37 PM
 

Fl State is arguably the one people would have had ranked as the Beyer, and they were 53rd before they played....just to get an idea.

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Akron scored 65 on Marshall.

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Posted: Sep 27, 2016, 12:47 AM
 

Others have given up a ton of points as well. Tigers have to play well, but Louisville hasn't played a defense on par with Clemson's. The defensive ends at FSU are good, but a tad sluggish. Especially Sweat who was nursing an injury as I recall.

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Thanks Spud!

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Posted: Sep 26, 2016, 11:15 PM
 

Finally someone gets it! LJ is good. But we got a BV D.
GO TIGERS!!

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Re: Thanks Spud!

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Posted: Sep 26, 2016, 11:53 PM
 

+1 for BVD - that's good. :)

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Re: Thanks Spud!

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Posted: Sep 27, 2016, 8:31 AM
 

How have we taken this long to come up with this?!?!

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Fsu defense is that bad? ###***


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They've played 3 of the better offenses


Posted: Sep 26, 2016, 11:55 PM
 

They didn't really give up a ton of yards to Ole Miss, though.

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To make it a fair evaluation...

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Posted: Sep 26, 2016, 11:25 PM
 

since their opponents lost a lot of yards to Louisville, that doesn't fare well with the stats.

Their opponents' defenses are ranked 111th, 83rd, and 113th in that order. (I don't count Charlotte as it's not in the same division.)

Now, let's remove what Louisville did on offense against them and reinsert the numbers back into the ranking. (Louisville put 845 yards, 530 yards and 690 yards against Syracuse, Florida State and Marshall.)

We'll get 35th, 38th and 54th.

If you look at it this way, I don't think the defenses they played are that bad.

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Why not include Charlotte. Lville used them to run up the

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Posted: Sep 26, 2016, 11:30 PM
 

stats. Charlotte is a D-1 school now, though they are ranked #128 out of 128.

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Posted: Sep 26, 2016, 11:45 PM
 

I somehow thought they're still not in FBS.

Charlotte's total defense is at #116. Doing the same thing like I did earlier will move it to a tie at #91.

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Re: To make it a fair evaluation...

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Posted: Sep 26, 2016, 11:41 PM
 

Or go to teamrankings.com and see where they sat on the date before they played them.

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Even after 4 games...


Posted: Sep 26, 2016, 11:47 PM
 

it's still too less information. If you check the ranking before the games, that would be far too less information.

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Re: Even after 4 games...


Posted: Sep 26, 2016, 11:52 PM
 

It's be the games prior, without Loyicille...which would be FL State @ #59, Charlotte no rank, Syracuse no rank but #128 afterwards, and Marshall @ # 117.

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Re: Even after 4 games...


Posted: Sep 26, 2016, 11:53 PM
 

*Louisville...dang phone typing.

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Re: Even after 4 games...

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Posted: Sep 27, 2016, 12:07 AM
 

Marshall gave up 550 yards to Akron. They are a powerhouse and 233 to Morgan st.
Fl state gave up 400 yards to old miss 300 to Charleston southern with half the team at home. And 650 to UFS.
Syracuse gave up 469 to uconn 454 to UCF and 100 to Colgate. That's what the teams they have played have done if you take out Louisville.

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Re: Even after 4 games...


Posted: Sep 27, 2016, 9:48 AM
 

Issue with that though is if you want to try to make a comparison that way, you have to take a game out of all 128 teams (and to be fair, you have to take out every team's worst game). You can't compare current averages of those teams minus Louisville to the current stats, yet other teams have an extra game that could make them look better, or worse.

Best direction to get to the point being made is just simply seeing what their defenses were ranked prior to their game vs Louisville. Doesn't give any info for Charlotte or Syracuse prior to the Louisville game, but let's be honest, you don't really think either of those are in the top 50, do you? Syracuse with all games is #123 now, were #128 after Louisville, so they've only moved 5 since...if you count your direction of all minus Louisville, and their 2 games that is being counted puts them @ #79 (note, they don't count in Colgate).

https://www.teamrankings.com/college-football/stat/opponent-yards-per-game

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Re: Even after 4 games...


Posted: Sep 26, 2016, 11:56 PM
 

keep in mind, you are only looking at what Louisville did to what they were prior, not counting what they did afterwards. After might have a minor bounce back, but Louisville took Fl State from #59 to #91.

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To be fair, you would have to take out the worst game of

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Posted: Sep 26, 2016, 11:54 PM
 

each team in the entire 128 teams, and then rank them....

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True. But that's too much work.***


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Re: To be fair, you would have to take out the worst game of


Posted: Sep 27, 2016, 10:54 PM
 

No you wouldn't need to take out a game from everyone. You rank on averages. It doesn't matter how many games. For ranking opponents of a team, you only average the other games that the opponent played. So remove UoL from Char, Syr, Marshall and FSU.

Why would you think you would need to remove a game that Usuk played for instance?

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Re: A little stat I just noticed. Louisville has played the

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Posted: Sep 26, 2016, 11:45 PM
 

giving up 600 yards and 50 points to Louisville will do that to your ranking.

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Re: A little stat I just noticed. Louisville has played the


Posted: Sep 26, 2016, 11:57 PM
 

http://www.tigernet.com/forums/thread.jspa?threadID=1608056&tstart=0

I kinda just posted the same thing. Sorry about that

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Very interesting --- what is FSU?


Posted: Sep 27, 2016, 9:20 AM
 

why is their D so bad ??

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Spud you are one the most knowledgeable Clemson fans I know.


Posted: Sep 27, 2016, 9:51 AM
 

Thanks for your informative post.

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Thank you very much.***


Posted: Sep 27, 2016, 12:10 PM
 



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