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Orange Phenom [14754]
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If you look at where Oklahoma and Virginia Football
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Sep 27, 2025, 12:46 PM
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are today. The intensity and disciplined play they show convinces me that our success from 2015-2021 was due to Elliott and Veneables. It was not Dabo and with the changes in college football since then and Dabo’s resistance to it, we are really in a very bad spot.
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All-TigerNet [5982]
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Re: If you look at where Oklahoma and Virginia Football
Sep 27, 2025, 12:52 PM
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Well, I see your point, but isn’t it Dabo that hired, empowered and managed them? I think that is the key part of being a great leader, and great leaders surround themselves with people smarter than them, and empower them…. It takes an entire team, not one person to achieve greatness…
So I think back then, that was Dabo’s MO, and he was just as much responsible for the success…
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Orange Phenom [14754]
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I dont disagree with you but then he went and brought
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in a number of unqualified coaches. While at first blush, Garrett appeared exceptionally qualified it now seems his prior success at TCU and SMU may have been due to Dykes. It begs the question as to just who was calling the plays for those offenses.
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Letterman [192]
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Re: If you look at where Oklahoma and Virginia Football
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Sep 27, 2025, 12:52 PM
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Oklahoma
2021: 11-2
2022: 6-7
2023: 10-3
2024: 6-7
Virginia
2021: 6–6 (3–5 ACC)
2022: 3–9 (1–7 ACC)
2023: 3–9 (2–6 ACC)
2024: 6–7 (3–5 ACC)
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Orange Phenom [14754]
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All schools had to figure out the new world of college football
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Sep 27, 2025, 1:01 PM
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It is understandable that it would take a few years to do that. If yon watch those two programs it seems that they are both adapting to it and their play on the field shows it.
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Gridiron Giant [15609]
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Adapting how? Because they are forced to use the portal?***
Sep 27, 2025, 1:20 PM
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Clemson Sports Icon [57238]
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Gridiron Giant [15609]
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Friendly wager on that?***
Sep 27, 2025, 1:20 PM
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Clemson Sports Icon [57238]
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No because I believe its a 2 win season.***
Sep 27, 2025, 1:27 PM
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Hall of Famer [8499]
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Re: If you look at where Oklahoma and Virginia Football
Sep 27, 2025, 12:52 PM
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Yeah, but his coaching tree is looking g a little better this year. 👍
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Gridiron Giant [15609]
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Sigh
Sep 27, 2025, 1:05 PM
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2021: DJU
2022: DJU
2023: Cade in development.
2024: Cade played great. Defense sucked.
2025: Cade is mentally gone so far.
That’s it. It’s funny how all these narratives get invented everyday while the elephant in the room gets ignored.
Until we have great QB play we will not be great. That’s football 101.
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Varsity [122]
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Re: Sigh
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Sep 27, 2025, 1:25 PM
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Cade didn’t play well last year. Cade played against a cupcake schedule last year with a bunch of inflated numbers. So stop with your stupidity
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Tiger Spirit [9816]
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Re: Sigh
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Sep 27, 2025, 1:29 PM
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Well, that wasn’t nice. Thumbody dot up on da wong thide of da bed dis morning.
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110%er [3749]
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then use the portal!!!!
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Dabo doesn't have any quality #2 QB to come in and challenge the starter. He can't admit he was wrong.
If Dabo used the portal to bring in good QB's in both examples we wouldn't be having these problems.
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Asst Coach [859]
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One of two things is true then
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Dabo whiffed on two five-star QBs
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He can’t develop them
Still a coaching issue.
Get a QB worth a ####, we’ve had five years
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Re: If you look at where Oklahoma and Virginia Football
Sep 27, 2025, 1:21 PM
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We had a solid staff during our golden years. It definitely makes a difference.
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Playmaker [355]
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Re: If you look at where Oklahoma and Virginia Football
Sep 27, 2025, 1:22 PM
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Agreed. They developed these players. And the portal is a necessity.
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Ring of Honor [23123]
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UVA brought in 15+ portal transfers this year at $20M
Sep 27, 2025, 2:19 PM
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Play calling duties were taken away from Tony Elliott and turned over to OC Des Kitchings, a WR/return man for Furman who has coached for Air Force, NCSU, South Carolina and the Atlanta Falcons.
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All-In [10725]
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Re: If you look at where Oklahoma and Virginia Football
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It’s been obvious to some of us since they left. Still others needed it to slap them in the face to recognize it
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Scout Team [85]
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Re: If you look at where Oklahoma and Virginia Football
Sep 27, 2025, 2:25 PM
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Virginia took 19 players from the transfer portal. Oklahoma took 15 players from the transfer portal this last cycle.
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Clemson Icon [25475]
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Re: If you look at where Oklahoma and Virginia Football
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Then why did it take both coaches reaching the win this year or your gone position in their programs.
It seems that Dabo cannot catch a break after 17 years or success and the start of one bad year.
I pointed out on Tigernet in 2017 and 2018 that outside forces like NIL, players transferring from program to program and some coaches doing most anything to win. Example: Michigan !! Teams building 1 win seasons like LSU. Brian Kelly knew he could not lose another opening game. So he bought a team for 2025.
Let’s see if BV or TE are still head coaches of Oklahoma and Virginia next year !! The season is far from over.
A lot of the newbie’s on Tigernet or either trolls, coot fans or Clemson fans who have gone nuts.
I am talking about fare weathered fans who jump on the bus when we are winning and jump off during the difficult times. !!!!!!!!
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National Champion [7691]
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Re: If you look at where Oklahoma and Virginia Football
Sep 27, 2025, 4:41 PM
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Seems like you have been drinking lemon juice.
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Valley Legend [12263]
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Re: If you look at where Oklahoma and Virginia Football
Sep 27, 2025, 2:38 PM
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Who do you think hired them numb nuts.
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Orange Phenom [14754]
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The coach that did has been gone for five years. Dabo in 2025
Sep 27, 2025, 4:26 PM
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is not the same person that built those championship teams. He’s changed and not in a good way.
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Re: If you look at where Oklahoma and Virginia Football
Sep 27, 2025, 4:37 PM
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Lol. Yes, both programs are a model of success since Brent and Tony have been in charge. My goodness.
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