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Rival Killer [2635]
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The Ohio St AD said they had a 20 MILLION budget for NIL for this year
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Jul 28, 2024, 8:57 AM
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College football is gone. The innocence is gone. Loyalty. Whatever you want to call it.
Gone.
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Orange Immortal [65066]
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Re: The Ohio St AD said they had a 20 MILLION budget for NIL for this year
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Jul 28, 2024, 9:04 AM
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Just wait for the problems to start when players become jealous that they are not paid as much as teammates or as much as players on other teams and begin holdouts. If you are going pro, might as expect what the pros do.
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Re: The Ohio St AD said they had a 20 MILLION budget for NIL for this year
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Jul 28, 2024, 11:25 AM
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wait until criminals follow the money to the college campuses, car jackings, home invasions, kidnapping, extortion, etc...
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Tiger Spirit [9921]
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Re: The Ohio St AD said they had a 20 MILLION budget for NIL for this year
Aug 16, 2024, 7:51 AM
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wait until criminals follow the money to the college campuses, car jackings, home invasions, kidnapping, extortion, etc...
Wait until girlfriends start claiming abuse, rape, baby momma drama, etc. It already existed to a degree and some cases were legitimate. This is going to become a pandemic now though
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Standout [304]
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Re: The Ohio St AD said they had a 20 MILLION budget for NIL for this year
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Jul 28, 2024, 9:05 AM
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And recently they have been outbid by Oregon for HS recruits. It sucks what CFB has become. Unfortunately, you have to pay your current players a good amount too. If you don’t, someone else will.
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Orange Blooded [2224]
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Re: The Ohio St AD said they had a 20 MILLION budget for NIL for this year
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Jul 28, 2024, 9:28 AM
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When a school has a mega donor worth over $30B that can fund the pay for play kitty each year, they will win their fair share of recruiting battles.
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Valley Legend [12145]
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Re: The Ohio St AD said they had a 20 MILLION budget for NIL for this year
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Jul 28, 2024, 9:16 AM
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Yep. The sport that was the most beautiful of them all now has no soul.
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Orange Blooded [2387]
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Don't pretend that it ever had a soul******
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Aug 5, 2024, 3:50 PM
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Associate AD [1081]
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Re: The Ohio St AD said they had a 20 MILLION budget for NIL for this year
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Jul 28, 2024, 9:21 AM
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As I and others have said, the only way to bring sanity to this is to adopt the rules all other professional sports have: salary caps, collective bargaining, drafts, etc. The good olds days are gone, but this new model can work as well. The NFL has certainly thrived.
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Solid Orange [1391]
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Re: The Ohio St AD said they had a 20 MILLION budget for NIL for this year
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Jul 29, 2024, 7:31 AM
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110% agree. Gotta have some rules and boundaries that apply to all teams.
Form a nationwide league to be the franchisor. Each athletic department can be a franchisee.
Then you have the governance structure to implement uniformity.
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Orange Blooded [2387]
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Legend [6874]
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Re: The Ohio St AD said they had a 20 MILLION budget for NIL for this year
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Jul 28, 2024, 9:25 AM
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Ohio state didn’t pay that money. Y’all act like schools are writing checks but they don’t and cannot. They can’t even facilitate deals. They can make recommendations starting august 10th. Here’s what the AD really said:
Buckeyes players received "around $20 million" from the school's name, image and likeness (NIL) collectives and brand affiliates over the past year, Ohio State's athletic director Ross Bjork told Yahoo Sports. The money given to student-athletes through collectives and brand affiliates is typically raised by the school's donors.
The coach or school can’t control where that money goes. For example. Stanford softball pitcher paid $1 million to transfer to Texas tech. That deal was made by Texas tech boosters and NIL collective. Again, these are third parties with no affiliation to Texas tech. Texas Tech boosters asked the coach for a list of transfers they wanted. They then pursued deals on their own. If we want the best at Clemson, we need our collectives to head hunt. Kirby has his collectives head hunting. So does every other team except clemson.
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Tiger Spirit [9412]
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Re: The Ohio St AD said they had a 20 MILLION budget for NIL for this year
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Jul 28, 2024, 9:28 AM
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Technically you are correct but to think the collectives and coaches are not in lock step is naive at best
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National Champion [7412]
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Its beyond naive
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Jul 28, 2024, 11:16 AM
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It’s an out and out lie. $Millions implies full coordination; and who is monitoring this mythical separation between “boosters” and “donors” and the schools’ athletic departments? The NCAA??? Just spare me that shyatt.
Unless the sheer amounts being paid to players is both reduced AND equalized across the board for EVERY school, and the ridiculous transfer portal volatility is greatly curtailed, the college football we’ve known is over… and a lot of people (including me) will be done supporting it.
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Orange Blooded [2387]
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You can't claim it's a lie, then use a weasel word like "implies".
Aug 5, 2024, 3:59 PM
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Which is it?
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Standout [304]
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Re: The Ohio St AD said they had a 20 MILLION budget for NIL for this year
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Jul 28, 2024, 9:47 AM
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100% true. The school does not pay. Also, as everyone knows, this is not NIL. This is pay for play. Very few college players on a team have REAL Name, Image, and Likeness value. But, they way more value as players. Hence they are paid all kinds of money by a collective to represent some kind of non-profit or other entity. This is what NIL has become. I read that this new House settlement thing, or related item, had a stipulation that all NIL deals over $600 had to be evaluated by a third party. Apparently this will be fought.
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Orange Blooded [2387]
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The $600 thing violates the consent agreement in the Ohio vs NCAA casecsse
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Aug 5, 2024, 3:57 PM
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The NCAA can't regulate private NIL. Period.
They're just blowing smoke trying to delay their demise.
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Dynasty Maker [3505]
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Re: The Ohio St AD NIL saga
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Jul 28, 2024, 9:26 AM
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When this NIL was formulated the then AD at OH St was over the committee. I said at the time it would be structured so there a way cheaters and the big schools could do what every they wanted and surprise surprise.
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Tiger Spirit [9412]
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Re: The Ohio St AD said they had a 20 MILLION budget for NIL for this year
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Jul 28, 2024, 9:30 AM
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College football is gone. The innocence is gone. Loyalty. Whatever you want to call it.
Gone.
UGA was leading the charge to our current situation but you already had a collective of bagmen so the transition was pretty straight forward
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Clemson Sports Icon [54842]
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Re: The Ohio St AD said they had a 20 MILLION budget for NIL for this year
Jul 28, 2024, 9:55 AM
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Yep... HISTORY...
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All-In [10801]
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Link?
Jul 28, 2024, 10:06 AM
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I mean you don't expect anyone to believe what a butt sniffer says without independent verification.
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Tiger Spirit [9265]
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Re: The Ohio St AD said they had a 20 MILLION budget for NIL for this year
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Jul 28, 2024, 11:20 AM
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It may be gone at most schools, but at THE Clemson University, our football culture and traditions are still very much alive and well.
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Athletic Dir [1146]
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Aug 23, 2024, 10:58 AM
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And we are suing the ACC and ourselves because we need more money to keep up with the others...where the hel* is the loyalty in that...at least FSU said what they were doing and did not try to put lipstick and rouge on that pig! Suing our home after we agreed and took their money for 10 years...that extra money is not to reduce the burden of IPTAY!
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Tiger Spirit [9468]
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Re: The Ohio St AD said they had a 20 MILLION budget for NIL for this year
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Jul 28, 2024, 1:05 PM
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Watch the opening weekend games, forget the I have to talk about something NIL narrative, and you will see the game is the same great game it always has been.
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Tiger Spirit [9691]
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Re: The Ohio St AD said they had a 20 MILLION budget for NIL for this year
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Jul 29, 2024, 7:50 AM
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No it wont because every game all the commentary will mention how Clemson doesn't use the portal and talk about every player that came from the portal on the other team. Neverending talking point that will kill the spirit of the game along with thr actual NIL crap!
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National Champion [7479]
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Game Changer [2044]
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Re: The Ohio St AD said they had a 20 MILLION budget for NIL for this year
Jul 29, 2024, 1:49 AM
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And sadly has little to do with their name, image, or likeness. It’s pay for play.
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Orange Blooded [2387]
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So what? It's fair market value either way.
Aug 5, 2024, 5:17 PM
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You know, the thing the NCAA illegally denied the athletes for far too long?
As others have posted, the schools don't pay the NIL money. Even even they start, it's another case if "so what"?
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Athletic Dir [1146]
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Re: So what? It's fair market value either way.
Aug 23, 2024, 11:03 AM
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Would free college have not meant anything to you? GUESS NOT...If you are not interested in a college degree then stay away! But interested in being a pro football star...that is another thing...student athletes..not yet!
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Re: The Ohio St AD said they had a 20 MILLION budget for NIL for this year
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Jul 29, 2024, 6:11 AM
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College athletes have been getting "compensation" for decades, granted it is a bit different now since it's out in the open. Go back to Reggie Bush etc.
Heck, 50 some years ago when I played small college bball, after a particularly good game I found out I had a "job" with decent pay (basically a paid study hall), I'd go in a restaurant and when I asked for my bill they'd say something like "oh, the couple that just left paid your bill". And I wasn't even a division I quality athlete. You've all seen the players who supposedly have no money from poor areas who show up driving a new car.
I remember in high school the "transfer" center on our bball team came with a "new and better" job for his father.
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Re: The Ohio St AD said they had a 20 MILLION budget for NIL for this year
Jul 29, 2024, 7:00 AM
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It doesn't matter where the player gets the money from. Bottom line, the player is getting paid. It's just a technicality on how he gets it.
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Rival Killer [2909]
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True . . .
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Aug 5, 2024, 3:45 PM
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We hear folks everywhere insisting that the sky is not falling, that none of this is that big of a deal, but of course, it is a big deal, and while not every element of recent changes are bad, the overall opening of the floodgates is, indeed, a monumental change, and will inevitably effect the culture of the sport in a way that will continue to unmoor it from it's roots of loyalty, school representation, tteam program continuity, amateurism, and so forth.
You don't have to be naive about the transactional stuff that's gone on in violation of all this behind the scenes in the past to realize this, either. To suggest otherwise is like suggesting bribery laws are naive b/c they don't acknowledge the dirty reality of things . . . but no, bribery laws exist **because** of the dirty reality of things, not because of obliviousness to them.
I can appreciate any desire to enjoy the sport as much as I can for what it is, given the residual fumes of history, loyalty, tradition, etc. that maybe left and will continue to enrich the sport to one degree or another for some years to come. But the root of all that is of course gone, and the residual fumes will probably at some point lose their steam.
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Orange Blooded [2387]
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False dilemma.
Aug 5, 2024, 4:01 PM
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There are a myriad of other options.
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Rival Killer [2909]
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Nope. Not at all. ***
Aug 23, 2024, 10:31 AM
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Orange Blooded [2387]
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You misspelled "Exploitation is gone".
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Aug 5, 2024, 3:49 PM
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There was never any innocence in college football.
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Clemson Conqueror [11249]
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Re: The Ohio St AD said they had a 20 MILLION budget for NIL for this year
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Aug 5, 2024, 6:57 PM
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Sooooooo…….same as their budget since 1970.
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Re: The Ohio St AD said they had a 20 MILLION budget for NIL for this year
Aug 23, 2024, 10:35 AM
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$1MM of that was earmarked for tattoo parlor visits
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Paw Warrior [4897]
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If Ryan Day doesnt win the natty this year
Aug 23, 2024, 10:36 AM
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he should be gone too
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Considering Many College Coaches Historically Did Not Want to Do NFL Coaching
Aug 23, 2024, 10:38 AM
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Because the challenge of trying to lead a pack of ego-centric millionaires was almost unwinnable, now college coaches might face and even harder challenge of managing their teams.
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