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Any way Cole Stoudt plays
Dec 26, 2013, 12:17 PM
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I'm not a Tajh basher; I think he has been a huge asset for us. But after reading about and watching how bad the Ohio State secondary is, I can't help but think that we need to put the person in who can get the ball to Sammy, Martavis, etc. most accurately. We all know that Tajh has had trouble with his throwing accuracy in big games. So will Dabo/Chad be willing to put Stoudt in if Tajh's accuracy is off or is this Tajh's game to lose?
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of course there's a way
Dec 26, 2013, 12:18 PM
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If we are up 30 or Tajh is hurt
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I hope Cole plays for lot so reason --1, I'd like to get
Dec 26, 2013, 12:21 PM
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started on the 2014 season
2. I'd like to show OSU lots of different looks
3. I think Cole might be a more accurate passer.
But I would have liked to have seen Cole play more all year long. And sadly, that has not happened. But I can also say that I don't think that cost us our two losses.
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Stoudt can be good for us. But you have nothing to base...
Dec 26, 2013, 2:37 PM
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that Stoudt is more accurate, when his only meaningful game play came against a below average BC team in 2011, when Tajh got injured in the 2nd half. Stoudt can have a great year next year, and will have great chance to easily beat the coots, but he will not be as good as Tajh.
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He got a good amount of playing time, you don't play...
Dec 26, 2013, 2:38 PM
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musical chair QB's, when your starter is the best QB in the history of the program and has set all kinds of school and ACC records.
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Re: Any way Cole Stoudt plays
Dec 26, 2013, 12:21 PM
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Dabo is not going to play Cole, unless Tajh is hurt. No other way. It will not be a blowout so that is a moot point.
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^^^get's it^^^***
Dec 26, 2013, 2:39 PM
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Only way he plays is a blowout win for us or injury to Tajh…
Dec 26, 2013, 2:34 PM
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we need to win the game, Stoudt will get his chance next year if he wins the starting job.
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Nice try coot ....*********
Dec 26, 2013, 3:21 PM
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The issue in big games isn't with Tajh
Dec 26, 2013, 3:48 PM
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It's with the offensive line not getting the pass protection we need and with our playcallers not calling shorter, quicker passes. When you try to do too much downfield stuff against veteran defensive lines like FSU and SC, you're gonna get pressured early and often. No matter who the QB is, that much pressure is eventually going to wear on you.
I think the best thing we can do is try to get a short passing game and some sort of a running game going. When they finally decide to bring a house blitz, lob it up to Sammy/Martavis one-on-one and let them take care of the rest.
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Re: The issue in big games isn't with Tajh
Dec 26, 2013, 4:00 PM
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Wrong. The O-line played really well against SCU. Tajh rolled out way too early and way too often, gave Doo Doo a sack on a silver platter, and looked like a deer in headlights the entire game.
That said, I do believe that Tajh gives us the best chance of winning the OB.
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That was only one play, though
Dec 26, 2013, 4:11 PM
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While the O-line definitely looked they were improved in that game, Tajh still got pressured more than he should have.
And even if they didn't pressure Tajh as much, you still have to consider the fact that too many downfield passes were called. SC has played us for the past 3 years and they know how to stop our offense: stop the big plays. Thus, you know they were getting their DBs into deep zones, meaning downfield passes just aren't going to work anymore. When the players are that covered up, no matter how well the O-line is playing (which, again, was better than usual), the pressure will still get there. That's what's called a "coverage sack."
By calling shorter passes, we could cause them to shift their defensive gameplan. We did this against LSU. If I recall, no pass in that game went for more than about 20-25 yards (not counting runs after the catch).
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Rock Defender [54]
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Re: That was only one play, though
Dec 26, 2013, 4:15 PM
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I agree with you about the play calling. But the pressure didn't come as a result of poor offensive line play.
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I guess I can meet you in the middle, then
Dec 26, 2013, 4:18 PM
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I'll concede that they did play alright. Just alright, though.
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Wrong, Tajh played good, it was the turnovers that killed us
Dec 26, 2013, 4:14 PM
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and he didn't look like a deer in head lights. Nice job in buying into coot rubbish. Yeah he turned the ball over 3 times, but the fumble was a good play by SCU's defense, and the two int's at the end of the game were just desperation passes trying score points with limited time left in the game. Sorry, but Tajh didn't call the WR pass on the first drive, when the offense was moving the ball easily without trick plays. Tajh didn't run into Adam Humphries on the punt return. Tajh didn't cause Adam Humphries to be careless with the ball on the 2nd punt return turnover. Tajh didn't fail to account for Connor Shaw on those 3rd and long running conversions for first downs.
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Rock Defender [54]
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Re: Wrong, Tajh played good, it was the turnovers that killed us
Dec 26, 2013, 4:17 PM
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Did you see him on the sidelines? He absolutely looked like a deer in headlights. On every pass, he dropped back about 8 or 9 yards, and one time ran straight into Doo Doo's arms. If you think Tajh played to his normal ability then I have to question how often you've seen him play.
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OSU's defense isn't good. Comparing it to FSU's defense is
Dec 26, 2013, 4:08 PM
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a non starter. And SCU's defense didn't do that good against us this year, we just beat ourselves with turnovers.
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True, but even still
Dec 26, 2013, 4:14 PM
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OSU's defense is going to get pressure, their D-line is pretty good. Their secondary might be suspect, but that won't matter if we don't have time to throw the pass in the first place.
And yes, the turnovers were the reason we lost. Even still, you gotta acknowledge the fact that if we had changed our playcalling a bit, we might have been able to avoid some of those turnovers in the first place.
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Tell 'em coot***
Dec 26, 2013, 5:06 PM
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