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The hate for Dabo is mind-bottling.
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The hate for Dabo is mind-bottling.


Dec 24, 2022, 2:37 PM

Dabo is 161-38 in 14-1/2 seasons at Clemson. That's an 81% winning percentage. Over the last 10 years, that win % goes up to 88%. 7 Conference championships. 2 national titles. 8 top 10 finishes. 6 top 5 finishes.

Now, following 5 disappointing losses over the last 2 seasons, T-Net is scattered with haters. Any comment by Dabo is met with "SMH" posts. All of a sudden, Dabo is an idiot. It's one thing to disagree, and we are all free and should be welcome to express that. I disagree, based on available information, with the way Dabo handled DJ this season. I talked about it on here. What's happening now is different; everything about Dabo is wrong. Everything he says or does is more heavily and vocally criticized. Dabo mentioned God. He talks about signing Bear Bryant's great-grandson. He doesn't like the transfer portal. He sucks.

What exactly is going on here? We will probably have another top 10 finish this year. We have a great QB coming back, we signed another top 5 QB, we have an excellent RB duo returning, a solid defense, and we should be looking at another top 10 finish or better next year. Dabo has almost single handedly built this, and spoiled us with this enviable level of success. Now we're shaking our heads out of puzzeled disappointment, or shame, or embarrassment, or disgust, with everything he says or does.

Do we have more dumb fans than I ever realized? Do that many Clemson fans not like Dabo, or not trust him? Or is it just Coots coming out of the woodwork?

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Re: The hate for Dabo is mind-bottling.


Dec 24, 2022, 2:39 PM

Some people are only happy when they have something to be unhappy about.

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^^^^^this^^^^^


Dec 25, 2022, 2:23 PM

people somehow think that complaining is a talent or skill.

Complaining is like urinating or defecating, it's the easiest thing do and always results in something smelly!

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Re: The hate for Dabo is mind-bottling.


Dec 24, 2022, 2:39 PM

You mean boggling.

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LOL! No, I meant bottling.

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Dec 24, 2022, 2:50 PM

It's an old T-Net joke.

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just take it with a grade of slaw.***


Dec 24, 2022, 3:54 PM



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Re: just take it with a grade of slaw.***


Dec 25, 2022, 7:25 AM

Everyjuan enjoys the T-net language!

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Dec 25, 2022, 11:33 AM

always gets me a chuckle!

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Re: LOL! No, I meant bottling.


Dec 25, 2022, 8:37 PM [ in reply to LOL! No, I meant bottling. ]

Glad you explained it. Kind of like deer and bored?

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Dec 24, 2022, 7:50 PM [ in reply to Re: The hate for Dabo is mind-bottling. ]



~JKB

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You’re going to get land blasted for that comment!******


Dec 25, 2022, 3:24 PM [ in reply to Re: The hate for Dabo is mind-bottling. ]



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Re: The hate for Dabo is mind-bottling.


Dec 24, 2022, 2:51 PM

We have a lot of fans who weren’t fans until 2015 and it shows

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Re: The hate for Dabo is mind-bottling.


Dec 24, 2022, 3:13 PM

These idiots weren’t around when Danny left.

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Re: The hate for Dabo is mind-bottling.


Dec 24, 2022, 3:46 PM

I was around at that time, and he didn't leave as some say, Danny Ford was run off by the Clemson AD and President!!!

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Well yeah that's true, but he was shown the


Dec 24, 2022, 3:52 PM

door due to blatant insubordination. Unfortunately, Danny did himself in.

People want to call Dabo "stubborn", but there was never anyone as stubborn as Danny.

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Re: The hate for Dabo is mind-bottling.


Dec 24, 2022, 2:52 PM

Between our fans complaining about...

ESPN out to get us.
The Transfer Portal
Mad at the media in general is out to get us.
The refs out to get us.
Getting so caught up in religion either way.
Just having the most sensitive fan base.
Not trusting Dabo as far as where we stand and him maximizing what we are working with.
Insecure about the SEC.

We have a really goofy fan base.

Luckily we have Dabo to keep this clown car in line. Dabo must be blown away with all he has to hear and listen to. He is one mentally strong dude. Anyway, they should just watch that Peter Woods interview and just sit back. Dabo is making the most of what we have to work with in the right way.

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I've seen a lot of sub 80 pulsers come out of the woodwork


Dec 24, 2022, 3:02 PM

Whenever something slightly bad happens to our program, it's coot mating season on this board.

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Snub out the cig, and give the shovel back to your wife. LOL


Dec 24, 2022, 3:05 PM

Just kidding. But remember... the internet gave every schizo & dickweed the same platform as normal folks. So, here we are.

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Re: Snub out the cig, and give the shovel back to your wife. LOL


Dec 24, 2022, 4:25 PM

I love Dabo and admit I have only been a fan since my son enrolled in 2018. The only problem I have is the whole DJ/Cade decision this year. I am a lifelong college football junkie and a PSU season ticket holder in years past. Dabo is right there at the top both as a coach and a person.

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Re: The hate for Dabo is mind-bottling.


Dec 24, 2022, 3:05 PM

I can’t con pretend it either. It’s mind glowing.

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Re: The hate for Dabo is mind-bottling.


Dec 24, 2022, 3:10 PM

People have a need to get attention and venting on the internet is one way many fill that need.

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Re: Fans Want To Keep Things Consistent Because Of The Spoilage ---


Dec 24, 2022, 3:11 PM

Got to do things that can keep your machine winning big time championships.....and we have. Like anyone if there is something off or not running right that is keeping you down thats hard to fix....or.....easy to fix but hard to find the right things to get it fixed......you are going to complain. Especially when others else are looking like their machines are running very well and proving it.

I'm definitely going to complain if I can't get something back the way I had it ...that got me much success before. Unless you're taking years off or not all in then to a degree it really don't matter what anyone thinks .

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It’s just further proof of my theory:


Dec 24, 2022, 3:21 PM

People, in general, are stupid.

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Re: It’s just further proof of my theory:


Dec 25, 2022, 9:01 AM

Joey, you are so correct. People are crazier than anybody.

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We will all be devastated when he moves on or retires…


Dec 24, 2022, 3:58 PM

I experienced mild frustration with Dabo’s deference to DJU… imagining Clemson without Dabo cleared that right up.

We have one of the best in the business and he has youth on his side. I hope he coaches at Clemson until he’s older than Mack Brown.

Go Tigers ?

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Re: We will all be devastated when he moves on or retires…


Dec 24, 2022, 4:22 PM

Dabo will never be older than Mack Brown.

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Uh ok…


Dec 24, 2022, 7:41 PM

Good one rhettttttt

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Re: The hate for Dabo is mind-bottling.


Dec 24, 2022, 4:02 PM

It’s only a handful. Not enough to be concerned over. Satan is always around.

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Satan or Saban?


Dec 24, 2022, 4:17 PM

Wanna determine how low your IQ is lol

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Satan? What is Dabo God or something?***


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Re: The hate for Dabo is mind-bottling.


Dec 24, 2022, 4:02 PM

Yep, the coots whined and attacked for years saying Dabo was not a coach but a "cheerleader". They got hammered for 7 straight games and had to keep quiet. Now, they won one with their "cheerleader" coach and they are infiltrating again trying to stir the pot. It didn't help some of us, yep, including me, asked questions about coaching decisions and the flood gates opened. Lesson learned.

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Re: The hate for Dabo is mind-bottling.


Dec 24, 2022, 4:11 PM

No. You just got more pre 30 somethings that are spoiled in all facets of life and don’t know what it’s like to be 3 and 8

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Re: The hate for Dabo is mind-bottling.


Dec 24, 2022, 4:21 PM

So you think you were warranted in complaining about the QB situation but people complaining about other things bothers you?

He's been criticized from the beginning for injecting his god into everything...

And not "liking" the transfer portal is going to be an issue for the depth of the roster.

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Who hates Dabo?***


Dec 24, 2022, 4:21 PM



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Yeah I am looking for those posts but ???


Dec 24, 2022, 4:30 PM

.

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Re: Yeah I am looking for those posts but ???


Dec 25, 2022, 10:54 AM

After this is just a website for fans...we should not get too worked up about what people carp about here...and we should never confuse dissention with disloyalty unless we get the occasional poultry incursion...if any of you folks can think of a better college football coach than Dabo then you`re truly deep thinkers...off the deep end!

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SMH***


Dec 24, 2022, 5:06 PM [ in reply to Who hates Dabo?*** ]



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Re: SMH***


Dec 24, 2022, 5:16 PM






Are you saying people "hate" Dabo if they don't think every single thing he does is perfect?

Because, OTOH, there are people who seems to think Dabo pees Champagne and craps chocolate ice cream.

I think the criticism of the needless public comments relating his religion to the football team are absolutely unnecessary. I also thought his failure to recognize the need to replace DJU was a bad coaching decision.

I don't hate him and don't want him to go anywhere, but I sure would like him to stop putting his foot in his mouth on matters not related to football AND I hope he doesn't make the same QB mistake that he did this year, ever again.

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Re: Who hates Dabo?***


Dec 24, 2022, 5:35 PM [ in reply to Who hates Dabo?*** ]

Haven’t read anyone “hating” him, as a Clemson fan how could you? Frustration over the DJ/Cade thing ok .. but not hatred. The portal is what it is is - he’s our coach, his call. The religion thing, he’s always professed his faith .. once successful and leading us to the top the CFB mountain .. the media turned on him because that’s what they do.

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Re: Who hates Dabo?***


Dec 25, 2022, 11:24 AM

Hate is the new buzz (buzzard) word of the liberal left...if you don't like the constant diatribe of pervs, whoremongers, socialists or sociopaths on TV then you are a hater and should be dealt with by the thought police of `uncle joe`!

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Dec 25, 2022, 12:07 PM

> pervs, whoremongers, socialists or sociopaths

You're describing the GOP buddy. Which president paid off a #### star?

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Re: Who hates Dabo?***


Dec 25, 2022, 12:31 PM

OK groomer.

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Re: Who hates Dabo?***


Dec 25, 2022, 12:50 PM

I see you don't like the facts.

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Re: Who hates Dabo?***


Dec 25, 2022, 2:01 PM [ in reply to Re: Who hates Dabo?*** ]

actually if you check that allegation it was proven false. Look how many democrats went to Epstein Island.

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Re: Who hates Dabo?***


Dec 25, 2022, 2:12 PM [ in reply to Re: Who hates Dabo?*** ]

Remember it's easy to sit in the stands and in your easy chair and coach. None of us ever attended one practice so we only can guess how ready Cade was, Cade's own high school coach said we did the right thing by holding him long as we did. Truth is none of us know for sure so it's only opinion.

The media hates us because we are in the ACC and have beaten Alabama twice for national Championship. We are supposed to be some little school that everyone wants for homecoming. Dabo has talked about his faith forever.Probably why the networks cut off his post game networks.

As far as the NIL program, the NCAA better get a handle on it or college football is ruined.For people who claim we don't participate we sure have good recruiting classes.

Dabo said we have no roster room for the portal right now. He doesn't just kick off players. Remember, most of those in the portal are there because they can't get playing time or are in trouble.He never said he wouldn't use it.

They hate us cause they ain't us!!!

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Re: Who hates Dabo?***


Dec 25, 2022, 1:48 AM [ in reply to Who hates Dabo?*** ]

JK…Dabo may have 12 straight 10 win seasons, but Brad’s got 13…and Dabo is paid more?

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Dec 25, 2022, 4:29 AM [ in reply to Who hates Dabo?*** ]

Imagine that. JK, the biggest Dabo hater on this board makes a sarcastic JK post. You’re truly a miserable POS.

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The loss to USuC has those otherwise 'Tiger Posers'


Dec 24, 2022, 5:19 PM

over the years coming out with their little chests puffed out. Like Tobias what's his name, they are just feeble dweebs mouthing off. It's the same at work. No lie, the past two years a life long USuC fan said he was an Arkansas fan when they would win of course. Suddenly after Clemson's loss to the dirtpeckerz this guy is suddenly beaming with pride. Puffing his little chest out, talking all the usual junk. Of course I said it's cute how gamecocks finally come out of hiding. But the difference is I know Clemson is a yearly contender, what say you about the cawks? Shut him down nicely.
Which brings me to the point the board coots on TNet are the same. Go figure. Let'em enjoy the win. They know deep inside they are still the same ol coots. *shrugs*

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Re: The hate for Dabo is mind-bottling.


Dec 24, 2022, 5:19 PM

“boggling”

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Re: The hate for Dabo is mind-bottling.


Dec 24, 2022, 5:19 PM

Good post, could not agree more. Merry Christmas!

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I'm right there with you Smiling Tiger


Dec 24, 2022, 5:34 PM

I disagreed with Dabo starting DJ over Cade Klubnik for most of the season. BUT I support his desire to communicate his love for God and appreciate the hard work he has put in to elevate Clemson Football.

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They Just Are Sick Little People***


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Re: The hate for Dabo is mind-bottling.


Dec 24, 2022, 6:45 PM

Agreed. Dumb fans who like to complain. There is only one program in the country that has done more the past 10 years. And Clemson has beaten them twice for the natty.

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Yes.***


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"We," have been joined by a bunch of whineasz...


Dec 24, 2022, 7:02 PM

loudmouth Clemson rejects who think a PS4 or Xbox and Madden '15 qualifies them to run a top ten program with more success than the man who brought Clemson from relative obscurity to the top echelon of college football.

Did I mention they are whineasz, loudmouths and Clemson rejects yet?

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Re: The hate for Dabo is mind-bottling.


Dec 24, 2022, 8:30 PM

I like Dabo. I only had one problem with him. That problem was his management of DJ. It appears he made some kind of deal with DJ that kept us out of the playoffs. I can point out what I see as a serious mistake without being a hater. Dabo is great, but in handling DJ, Dabo royally screwed up.

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Dabo's been peeing in our boots and telling us it's raining


Dec 24, 2022, 9:05 PM

Most everybody agrees, including me, that CDS is the greatest coach in CU history, including CFH and CDF. Almost nobody disagrees with that. And yes, the two natty's and conference championships don't happen with out CDS. It is BECAUSE of all that success that many of us don't understand why we haven't gotten straight talk from Dabo about DJU. He pulls every other player off the field for lack of performance, so why the kid gloves with DJU?? And yes, for all the victories over the coots he's brought to CU, he prolly left one on the field this year. Closely following that is why, after all the recruiting success at the skill positions, have their been no major recruiting successes at WR and RB?

Just don't pee in our boots and tell us it's raining. Bottom line, that summarizes the current gripe with CDS.

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Re: Dabo's been peeing in our boots and telling us it's raining


Dec 25, 2022, 1:27 PM

Everyone wonders why, but he gets paid to run this program. People on these sites do not. Quit questioning everything. He he’s been great.nobody does everything right.

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Dec 26, 2022, 9:17 PM [ in reply to Dabo's been peeing in our boots and telling us it's raining ]

I guess you didn’t notice Dabs pulled DJ out for the Syracuse and the UNC games?

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Re: The hate for Dabo is mind-bottling.


Dec 25, 2022, 1:22 AM

I am an alumni and have been a Clemson fan for a long time. Dabo Swinney is the best thing that has ever happened to our university, not only for football, but in general. His prowess on the field is by far the best we have ever had, but it is the other things that make me a fan. Clemson is a squeaky clean program with the highest graduation rates we have ever known and among the highest in America. I hope the stupidity of a few fans does not make us do something really foolish.

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Re: The hate for Dabo is mind-bottling.


Dec 25, 2022, 7:45 AM

As Gene Stallings once said, no top tier program is clean. Dabo may be squeaky clean, but I am sure some donors somewhere awere not. ( With NIL It does not matter now)

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Re: The hate for Dabo is mind-bottling.


Dec 25, 2022, 8:41 AM [ in reply to Re: The hate for Dabo is mind-bottling. ]

Well said J Clarke

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Re: The hate for Dabo is mind-bottling.


Dec 25, 2022, 11:07 AM [ in reply to Re: The hate for Dabo is mind-bottling. ]

1972 Grad and agree...ESPN can try to take us off the map but Dabo will be stuck in their craw forever which is a lot longer for some of you than it is for me! By standards on today we are a relatively small university but we maintain a position that the TAMU`s, UGA`s OSU can only dream of...those schools have to buy a kids loyalty with cash...most of those places are well stocked with athletes who care little about the student part...they are really prep schools for the NFL and little more...that will not be Dabos or Clemsons legacy!

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My theory is it’s all based from fear


Dec 25, 2022, 1:39 AM

Fear that things are going to go back to the way they were when most of the more vocal fans were growing up and becoming fans of Clemson. The fear of once again being a run of the mill mid tier ACC program going 8-4 each season. I think a lot of people are scared that it all has been a flash in the pan and now are waiting for the wheels to fall off. That’s why everyone is so critical of every decision and statement. They are afraid if Dabo says or does just the right wrong thing all the recruits and all the players will leave and it’s over. There is no faith in the program.

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Re: The hate for Dabo is mind-bottling.


Dec 25, 2022, 7:48 AM

I have had my mind boggled, but never bottled.

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If you have paid attention on here over the last 15 years,


Dec 25, 2022, 7:51 PM

you have had your mind bottled, trust me.

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Re: If you have paid attention on here over the last 15 years,


Dec 25, 2022, 8:36 PM

I have not. I will correct my friends on the improper use of phrases. Mind bottling is "failure to correct friends on improper usage of phrases or sayings." On the other hand, mind boggling means to be confused or bewildered over an event otlr concept. The latter happens to me quite often.

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Dude, it's a joke. Some T-netter at some point, I can't


Dec 26, 2022, 10:52 AM

remember exactly who or when (it doesn't matter) improperly used the phrase "mind-bottling" when they should have used "mind-boggling". It was a long time ago, but it caught on, and it became part of the T-Net lexicon, and thus has been a running joke for years. Just like "take it with a grade of slaw" instead of "take it with a grain of salt", and many others. Sorry you missed it.

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The word “hate” is over the top - but we know exactly who


Dec 25, 2022, 7:57 AM

You are speaking of.
The jealousy jabber, the mental midget who pretends to love Clemson, but actions and words say otherwise.
Jabbing Dabo every chance he gets.
Critical of womens softball players.
Hates on medical charities.
Pretends that finishing (before bowl game), 7th with another ACC championship and orange bowl game is severely slipping.
Who pretends that the portal would solve every issue in the world, maybe even cancer.

JK and his minions of course.

Clearly he does this because of the critical comments about his alter ego - Brad Brownell.

Dabo - wins.
Brad beats bottom of the ACC expectations.

Not even a fair fight.

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Re: The hate for Dabo is mind-bottling.


Dec 25, 2022, 8:49 AM

Listen..I love the dude just as much as the next person but let’s not pretend he’s not beyond reproach. He gaffed the Watson/Stoudt situation…Tried to gaff the Lawrence/Bryant dual…and obviously swing and missed completely on the Klubnik/DJ battle.

Moving Trent Simpson to MLB before realizing he was best suited at Will/Nickel..Idiotically moving Ross to the slot…all of these decision signed off by him.

This man REFUSES to use the portal for any vital upgrades and pi$$es on your faces while convincing you it’s raining. Coach Swinney is paid $10m a year to WIN football games. He has said countless of times that “the fun is in the winning”…Now the second fans, who spend their hard earned money towards the program, complain about an easy 10 win ACC season and missing the playoffs because of his decision making, you all want to throw stones.

We aren’t the cat’s meow anymore and Coach Swinney’s unwillingness to adapt to the new landscape of college football is beyond irritating. In blunt terms, we want a football coach…not a $10m a year youth pastor.

I do appreciate his faith and how he’s installed it to the program…But opponents don’t care about that on Saturdays.

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Hate


Dec 25, 2022, 9:39 AM

Is mind boggling!

You only hate what you are jealous of!

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While I totally agree that dabo is responsible for all our


Dec 25, 2022, 11:06 AM

Success and is the best thing to happen to Clemson football ever, his unreasonable commitment to DJU in the usuck game deserves scrutiny.

I absolutely love the guy, but cannot understand why he doesn’t have the love for CK2 that he did for DJU.

All the other noise about recruiting and the portal is fair game but is just noise until it plays out.

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The contract


Dec 25, 2022, 11:46 AM

It's 115 million over 10 years and that's guaranteed money. Nobody on the board hates Dabo but when your average annual salary (it escalates each year) is more than most could ever dream of making in a lifetime then yes, there are expectations. Best is the standard, and his lawyers certainly did their best with this last deal. The board is for dissenting opinions and discussion about the team's performance. Just because he is arrogant and stubborn does not equate to hate. He's done a great job and I have yet to see a single post during his tenure that someone hated him.
Not that is was deserved, but there were actually idiots that threatened previous coaches (Coach Hat) with bodily harm (I have seen him threatened on the field after a win in the Valley) and openly declared that they despised them. May not have been the best fit at Clemson, but Coach Hat was a fine Christian man. Being threated over a football game is just ridiculous. That was an example of hate - no hate for Dabo.

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Re: The hate for Dabo is mind-bottling.


Dec 25, 2022, 12:26 PM

@Smiling Tiger Merry Christmas!

I would suggest just take it for what it is. We have had an influx of band wagon fans hit the scene in the last 5-7 years and adversity strikes they complain. I have learned through the years that there are some miserable people in this world and I choose to ignore them. Same with politics and the adversity that sometimes comes with my faith. If you have noticed some folks you hardly hear from come out of the woodwork to complain about Dabo’s faith even though it’s nothing new. Politics the same way. I never hear from one nameless person I have chosen to ignore because it’s constant complaining concerning politics and very little to do with Clemson. Just let it go and enjoy the men and women on this board that enjoy Clemson for better and for worse.

Have I personally agreed with every coaching hire or the choices at certain positions on the field? No but last I checked Dabo is the coach and does not call me to check in about decisions regarding the program.

As a program we are not where we want to be right now but are still a very solid program that is a couple of players away from getting back into the Final 4 discussion. I for one am thankful I do not pull for SC and watching their mediocre at best program makes me more and more proud I have been a lifelong Tiger even though me attending the University did not work out for reasons I have mentioned in past post.

Rant is over for the most part there is a great core of fans on here. We don’t always agree and there is nothing wrong with that. Just show mutual respect and keep conversing.

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Well said, and Merry Christmas to you as well!***


Dec 25, 2022, 7:48 PM



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Most people don't like being lied to


Dec 25, 2022, 1:38 PM

Especially when the lie is so obvious to everyone.

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Re: The hate for Dabo is mind-bottling.


Dec 25, 2022, 7:55 PM

I must have missed it. I heard some head shaking about some of Dabos recent comments but that’s not hate. When someone doesn’t agree with you it doesn’t mean they hate you and it’s bizarre some would think so. Overall Dabo is a well loved and respected coach. He has been frustrating at times with recent things like sticking with DJ etc but well loved none the less.

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Re: The hate for Dabo is mind-bottling.


Dec 25, 2022, 7:56 PM

I think it’s coots coming out the woodworks!!! If you are a Clemson fan and don’t like dabo or don’t respect dabo then you are not a true Clemson fan!!! Greatest head coach we have ever had and probably ever will have hands down!!!! Proof is in the pudding

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Re: The hate for Dabo is mind-bottling.


Dec 26, 2022, 7:11 AM

Nobody hates Dabo. He’s the 2nd best coach in college football next to the GOAT Saban.

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Re: The hate for Dabo is mind-bottling.


Dec 26, 2022, 6:52 PM

Tequila or Scotch?

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