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TNET: USA TODAY: "SEC needs Florida State, Clemson to close gap with Big Ten"
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Re: TNET: USA TODAY:
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I’d say the B1G is the top conference right now, I doubt anything happens before 2036
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Re: TNET: USA TODAY:
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Sep 4, 2025, 12:16 PM
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The Big 10 may have the best two teams but the SEC is still the best overall conference. They certainly aren't in danger at all of getting left behind by the Big 10.
The real distinction is the drop-off between the SEC/Big 10 and the ACC/Big 12.
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Re: TNET: USA TODAY:
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If the big 10 says to Clemson and FSU, we will help with your exit fee, they both would say no to the SEC and it's possible that they could take Clemson, FSU, and SMU making the Big 10 the big dog in college FB...
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Respectfully Disagree on Timing
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Sep 4, 2025, 12:22 PM
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IMHO the Clemson move (with or without FSU link) will be announced by Spring 2028 and will happen by the 2030 season. Either ESPN/SEC or Fox Sports/B1G could precipitate this move for more TV/streaming revenue.
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Re: Respectfully Disagree on Timing
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Sep 4, 2025, 12:46 PM
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I agree with socman2. It would grind Sankey if somehow osu, and Penn st, Clemson or fsu, and one sec in the semi-finals... or perhaps left out all together for a ND. Then have us and osu play for the natty. Bama gets left out, Oklahoma and Texas tank. Yeah, that'd start moving some needles. Last thing he wants is the B1G have another title shot. Jmho
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Re: TNET: USA TODAY:
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Sep 4, 2025, 3:54 PM
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SEC is better than the BIG10 and it’s not a bunch of cold weather Yankee schools.
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"What is elite one season could easily be Mississippi State the next." OUCH!
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Sep 4, 2025, 12:57 PM
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Talk about throwing one of your SEC membership schools under the BUS!
Truth be told, the SEC has about four strong schools every year. And they are not the SAME four every year, which leads to their argument that they are ALL elite. The reality is that ALL have ebb and flow. Even the once Mighty Crimson Pachyderms are now merely mortal. And the SEC didn't get what they thought they were getting with Oklahoma, at least so far. (Sorry, Brent.)
Clemson and FSU would certainly be good, if not great, additions in football. I would wager that both would finish in the upper half of the conference at least every year, once that non-SEC roadblock to recruiting is removed.
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I still think that's why when Dabo is asked why isn't he using the portal?
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Sep 4, 2025, 1:12 PM
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He says we've tried to feel needs, but if they won't come, they won't come, but have no problem signing with Ole Mrs.
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Fill not feel***
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Sep 4, 2025, 1:12 PM
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Sigh here we go again.
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Sep 4, 2025, 4:13 PM
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There isn’t a program in the country retaining talent like we do. Where are all your roster spots coming from?
Guys aren’t leaving en masse like some places. In facts hardly anyone leaves and again, we lose less than anyone. We don’t kick guys off the team to replace them them with unproven portal guys either.
With that said, we did pursue absolute needs, the very few there were, OL for example, but we missed until this year. We had some scholarships available and we used them to fill needs.
So tell me chief, what other way should we have used the portal and why? Who would you kick off the team just to use the magic portal?
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Re: Sigh here we go again.
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Sep 4, 2025, 4:40 PM
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The magic portal helped strengthen lsu’s defense. Sometimes you have to spend the money. FSU got a better qb. Dabo is not a portal player, he fills needs on a limited budget. His bad coaching hires, recruiting misses and lack of portal uses have prevented Clemson from regaining elite status again. This is supposed to be an elite level team this year. I hope so!
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How do you know its better than last year?
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Sep 4, 2025, 4:52 PM
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LSU had to sign, what. 18 guys… because they lost 23.
That’s why LSU has new players on the defense. Not because they dipped into the magic portal to get better. We have no idea about the guys they lost vs the guys they signed, but to sit here today and say they went into the magic portal only trying to get better is patently false. They filled holes from the mass exodus, period. Their defense didn’t beat us technically. They bumrushed us nearly every down, and I assume you know how that worked out.
Dabo has no unlimited budget.
We have a full roster, again, because we retain better than anyone. Where would you like to kick guys off the team just to say, “yay portal”? He isn’t signing more portal guys because there’s no room.
Why is this difficult to understand?
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Re: How do you know its better than last year?
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Sep 4, 2025, 5:22 PM
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I realize Clemson doesn’t have the same budget as some big 10 or sec teams. Players have to replaced due to graduation, transfer or dismissal. The portal offers potential player replacement and upgrade at a higher cost many times. Dabo chooses hs players more than portal guys! Hs take time to develop.
Clemson did not play like the better team. Especially on offense. LSU defense was better overall. The portal worked for them on Saturday. It’s magic when either a recruit or transfer contributes meaningful minutes! I expected more from Clemson’s experienced team.
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Re: How do you know its better than last year?
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By the way, that was an Amen to Mike4
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Re: "What is elite one season could easily be Mississippi State the next." OUCH!
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Sep 4, 2025, 1:24 PM
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Once FSU and Clemson enter the SEC they will both be getting more $$$$ for recruiting, NIL, coaching, development, facilities, etc. I think this is what really separates the conferences. Not exactly a great epiphany.
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Re: "What is elite one season could easily be Mississippi State the next." OUCH!
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Sep 4, 2025, 1:40 PM
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If Clemson and FSU leave, acc will tank, big time
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The ACC is toast, but in reality all conferences are going to
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Sep 4, 2025, 4:15 PM
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adds into about 4 super conferences with a whole new alignment. That is what’s coming.
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Re: TNET: USA TODAY: "SEC needs Florida State, Clemson to close gap with Big Ten"
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Sep 4, 2025, 1:41 PM
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I wonder if sec would drop some of the lesser schools...vandy/ miss st/ USuC.........🤣
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Re: TNET: USA TODAY: "SEC needs Florida State, Clemson to close gap with Big Ten"
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As someone who actually goes to games I'd be absolutely thrilled if we finally left the ACC. I've got no wish at all to go to BC/Stanford/Cal/SMU/Pitt/Syracuse/UVA/Wake Forest/Duke (wake and duke are a nice day trip but an awful football atmosphere) We don't even play NCST and GT every year....
Better home/away scheduling and more money would be about the only good thing to come out of all this realignment and we'd fit right in the SEC geographically. #### UT/UF/Auburn/Bama/UGA are closer than a crap ton of ACC schools. South Carolina game would be a league game so we'd still get the ND series and other OOC games in the future.
I think it comes down to a cold war between fox/abc- does ABC want to let fox plant their big 10 coverage right in their home territory? if it was up to ABC they'd lock us and FSU down for a lifetime on pennies on the dollar like we are in the ACC currently. But I don't think that SEC/ABC would like having massive "BIG 10" games in their territory. Ohio State @ Clemson is a massive draw, Michigan @ FSU is a massive draw. The big 10 is super super top heavy and they only have 1-2 big games a week. Clemson+FSU would bring more big matchups every week over there.
Regardless getting out of the ACC is a must.
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Well said!***
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Re: TNET: USA TODAY: "SEC needs Florida State, Clemson to close gap with Big Ten"
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There are 6 million people living in SC . SEC already has SCAR to bring in viewership in our state NC has 12 million residents with no representation in the SEC . In my opinion that will be the driving force when expansion comes around
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Re: TNET: USA TODAY: "SEC needs Florida State, Clemson to close gap with Big Ten"
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There are 6 million people living in SC . SEC already has SCAR to bring in viewership in our state NC has 12 million residents with no representation in the SEC . In my opinion that will be the driving force when expansion comes around
brands bring in the eyeballs. if media markets mattered the ACC would be lapping the SEC in money from TV deals. BC (boston) vs GT (atlanta) would run laps around Bama (tuscaloosa) vs Ole Miss (oxford) but markets do NOT matter, brands do.
Not to mention the state of north carolina is balkanized when it comes to football. App state / ECU / duke/ wake forest grads/fans DO NOT care about UNC/NCST football. In ohio/michigan all those directional schools are still fans of the big schools in state. that isn't the case in north carolina.
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Re: TNET: USA TODAY: "SEC needs Florida State, Clemson to close gap with Big Ten"
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Sep 4, 2025, 3:37 PM
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Those big cities you mentioned are not following the teams located there.
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Re: TNET: USA TODAY: "SEC needs Florida State, Clemson to close gap with Big Ten"
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Those big cities you mentioned are not following the teams located there.
Correct, most of North Carolina doesn't care about UNC/NCST football either, which is the point you were making about the "untapped" North Carolina market. NCST/UNC getting shellacked by Georgia doesn't magically make the whole state tune in. I was at the Bama @ UNC basketball game last year, despite Bama being ranked the UNC faithful really didn't show up to that either. (and this was before everyone knew UNC was an average at best team last year)
Heck, Charlotte has a ton of South Carolina/Clemson/Tennessee alums who care more about football than UNC.
Clemson has a regional fanbase that stretches into Atlanta/Charlotte so to say we're only tethered by the confines of the state of south carolina just isn't true. And for better or worse Clemson is starting to have a big contingent of grads all up and down the east coast. We have more kids from New Jersey and New york than Georgia, https://news.clemson.edu/meet-clemson-universitys-incoming-students-2025/ (heck we have more from new jersey than north carolina)
During my time at Clemson, I noticed pretty quick these northern kids take their newfound college football fandom back up north like missionaries and are converting their families as well LOL.
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Sorry. But you couldnt be more wrong
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Sep 4, 2025, 4:22 PM
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As most of you know, I am a 48 year veteran of the Broadcast-Media industry. As one who has negotiated dozens of media-rights deals, there are only two “currencies” that matter in these deals. Viewers and market size. In sports-rights, brands don’t always translate to a national audience. Some major brands like Notre Dame or Bama do. But there aren't many college brands that are strong enough to sway a network. Also, real power brands don’t sway decisions based on recent wins and losses. They hold strong long after the nattys are a memory. Michigan, Texas, Notre Dame, USC (the real one) etc.
Almost all rights deals are based on the size of the TV MARKET or what is called the DMA (Designated Market Area.) Every town in America belongs to one DMA. In short, a DMA represents the number of available TV households in that area. The DMA has ZERO relationship to the school’s brand.
In SC, there are 6 DMAs (but really only 4 that matter):
1. Greenville-Spartanburg-Asheville-Anderson (Clemson’s DMA)
2. Columbia
3. Charleston
4. Myrtle Beach-Florence
5. Savannah, GA (includes Hilton Head)
6. Augusta, GA (includes Aiken)
For any conference to crave adding Clemson, the conference and their affiliated network would have to determine if USuCk already adequately covers most of the DMAs’ available TV households, or if adding Clemson would add enough additional viewers to warrant the deal.
They’ll do a full outright research project to determine how many SC households they’d add by adding Clemson to the conference/network. If they determine it’s worth the payout, they’ll add them.
It’s as simple as that.
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No, its not as simple as that at all.
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Sep 4, 2025, 5:01 PM
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Brand matters more than anything. Brand attracts viewers. Viewers equal $$$.
Podunk ND could have a huge brand team that people view at high levels across the country. That’s what matters. Not how many people are in SC.
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Re: No, its not as simple as that at all.
Sep 4, 2025, 11:13 PM
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I spent 48 years dealing with this. But you go ahead and believe you know better than those of us who actually know what we’re taking about. It’s cute.
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Who & when did you do what for work? Currently Clemson is Top 25 most valuable
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I don't mean to disrespect your career experience, but who did you work for in what capacity and when? It seems like you're saying you retired. If you were the CEO of ESPN until last year, I'd find your opinion more credible than if you were a janitor at Raycom until last year or the CEO of ESPN until 10 years ago.
The college football world has changed dramatically recently and you seem to be espousing outdated economics. Nowadays, MANY games are broadcast (and streamed) NATIONALLY, so regional markets aren't important like the old days when people watched football via TV antennas, and stayed close to home for college & careers. Football-loving Clemson-fan eyeballs (wherever they may live in the country) are more valuable than football-is-irrelevant UVA fans, even though UVA is a bigger school in a more populous state. I don't claim to be an expert, but everything that I've read in recent years indicates that Clemson has become a very desirable property. For example, Clemson is Top 25 according to the following analysis.
https://247sports.com/longformarticle/ranking-college-footballs-most-valuable-programs-alabama-michigan-texas-georgia-ohio-state-oklahoma-178007658/#1794455
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Re: Who & when did you do what for work? Currently Clemson is Top 25 most valuable
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Razz, I was the Executive VP of Programming for iHeartMedia for over 20 years, and left the biz last year. Prior to that I he’ll President and VP positions for other major broadcast companies. I’ve created and executed radio and television rights for multiple college and MLB clubs my entire career - as recently as last march and continue to consult media companies in this capacity. It’s what I do. No offense taken. My point was if there’s no additional significant audience available, we’re not motivated to strike a deal. There are many factors that determine a teams rights-value. It is incredibly complicated and detailed. Happy to send you a sample agreement if you have time to read 200+ pages of legal mumbo.
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Re: Who & when did you do what for work? Currently Clemson is Top 25 most valuable
Sep 5, 2025, 1:02 PM
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Thanks for taking the time to reply!
Wow! So for the last 20 years, you were EVP of programming for iHeartMedia? Impressive! iHeart used to be my go-to favorite music-streaming service for home (PC) and car (smartphone). I was bummed that iHeartMedia seemed to give up on that streaming business, and so I switched to Pandora & Spotify. If you don't mind me asking (and it's not too confidential)... Was there too much competition and not enough traction and profit in that streaming space to continue pursuing it (since it wasn't a core part of iHeart's business)?
It's obviously a complex issue and valuation. Relatively small Clemson isn't a slam-dunk value proposition, but we're pretty valuable. I think we, and especially FSU, would be good targets for the B1G (TV eyeballs, footprint expansion, recruiting, etc.)
I've negotiated my share of inch-thick multi-million dollar license agreements (in technology, not media) so no thanks on the legalese reading offer!
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Re: Who & when did you do what for work? Currently Clemson is Top 25 most valuable
Sep 5, 2025, 10:32 PM
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Yeah man. Not sure what you mean by giving up on streaming. We were def not first in music streaming (Spotify #1 with 600M+ users, Apple #2, Amazon #3, iHeart #4), but are currently the fastest growing streaming service. But IHeart is still #1 in ad-enabled audio streaming… with literally 4x the reach of Spotify/Pandora’s free tiers. iHeart is also the #1 streaming service for podcasts. We bought Spreaker, Stuff Media and Triton Digital to catapult us to #1 in that category. What makes them so big is how they differ from the other podcast platforms. Most platforms like Spotify only stream their own products. Like Joe Rogan. They own that show and provide that show. But iHeart plays host to ALL shows on any platform. We may not “own” as many shows, but we stream more shows than anyone. — and I just I keep saying “we” like I still work there. Hahaha.
I also had a love/hate relationship to radio-rights organizations like Learfield. iHeart is the largest broadcast-rights holder of college football. But the politics of what radio station gets broadcast rights in a market is nauseating. Example: For years, iHeart held the rights to Gamecock sports in Columbia. But the market president knew the contract was coming up when he left iHeart to go work for Cumulus, so he allowed the contract to lapse, stole it and took it to Cumulus. Legend had it Learfield didn’t standup for iHeart and allowed the transfer to take place and stand. Tot his day, they won’t even talk to iHeart about taking back the broadcast rights in Columbia. That was back when local stations negotiated their own contracts. Now, corporate does it (iHeart Sports Network) and the local market radio stations take whatever corporate negotiates for them and tells them who they get. Frustrating for the local operators for sure, but necessary to keep relationships with conferences and with jerks like Learfield in order and “fair.”
I could go on and on but I’m old, tired and glad I’m out of that craziness. 🤣
I agree there is a lot of value that comes with Clemson - wherever they end up, it has to be better than the A-She-She….
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Re: Sorry. But you couldnt be more wrong
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Sorry, 1998 called they want their media strategy back.
Constantly chasing markets over brands is how the ACC got into the mess we're in.
Despite Being in a "poor" media market, Clemson is constantly a draw. As I said before if JUST media market mattered the ACC would outdraw the SEC hands down.... it doesn't... 1998 thinking into the 2010s is how this happens.
Clemson has "sexy" matchups with half the SEC and the top tier of the BIG10. Thats what matters especially now that the BIG10 partners CBS/NBC are unhappy with the deal. Clemson/FSU vs Ohio state/Michigan/oregon/penn state sells viewers and even the mid tier teams like Wisconsin/Washington/Nebraska sells for the 330/8pm slots that the big10 struggles to fill.
Clemson vs LSU despite being upstate south carolina vs Baton Rouge in media markets was one of the most watched games of the weekend. (just shy of ND vs Miami in a stand alone game on sunday night a far better TV slot early in the year, also outdrew UNC vs TCU which in a monday night stand alone game on labor day, despite the fact I keep hearing UNC magically brings in the NC market, spoiler it doesn't during football season)
I'm sure the MSA's mattered 20-30 years ago when cable subscriptions ran everything. They don't anymore and the MSA's dont matter nearly as much. Otherwise UCLA/BC would be massive draws over the likes of Ole miss or Oregon (who are solid programs but not blue bloods like texas/ND)
It comes down to A. Does the SEC/ABC want 2 marquee schools in their backyard getting poached or do they double down on their biggest strength in having a deep football first conference with legitimate geographic and regional ties?
B. Are the big 10 TV partners going to want better games every week enough to force the SEC/ABC's hand? On saturday night NBC got treated to Michigan vs New Mexico state. If Clemson was in the BIG10 they'd be on NBC OTA broadcast and brought in that massive 10+ million number.
https://x.com/TJAltimore/status/1749970673085096269/photo/1 Clemson is in the elite tier from 16-23' of being one of the most watched teams in the country and it's not even close compared to most of the BIG10/lower half of the SEC. I'm guessing if we extrapolated that data back to 2010-2025 it still rings true.
Does Clemson add to a grant of rights or take more away? I think it's pretty clear clemson ADDS value and matchups that the networks crave. Not to mention Clemson has fans/alums in charlotte/atlanta as well as in cities all up and down the east coast. Acting like the only folks that tune in to Clemson games are ONLY found in South Carolina is just antiquated thinking.
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What drives expansion is BRAND. Not the regional population.
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If conferences expanded today, you do know Clemson is the 2nd leading brand behind Notre Dame, right?
It doesn’t matter one bit about how many are in your state or what other teams are in the state. What matters is eyeballs on the TV.
Clemson gets eyeballs from coast to coast. That is the brand. That is what makes a conference lucrative, not location.
A team could be in Podunk ND and still be coveted if people watch them. USuC in no way blocks our brand.
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Source for this?
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In the ACC alone, I would assume FSU, UNC, and Miami are bigger brands than Clemson. Maybe even Duke because of their basketball history.
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Fingers crossed! We need to join the SEC!!***
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Re: Fingers crossed! We need to join the SEC!!***
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Its disgusting to say/think about but the ACC has constantly shot itself in the foot thanks to Swofford/Phillips it won't shock me if they add UCONN and make us play 9 games soon. Gross. Another northern basketball first school. I've been an ACC first type of guy for a long time but the past 5-6 years make it indefensible. Adding Cal/Stanford is the cherry on top of a long history of bad decisions. West Virginia should've been in here a long time ago (rivals/ some history with Louisville/Virginia Tech/Pitt/Miami would've helped our TV deal) but the over the top stuffy holier than thou, academics shot that down.
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Re: TNET: USA TODAY: "SEC needs Florida State, Clemson to close gap with Big Ten"
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People just don't seem to want to believe that you don't just leave and join somewhere else. You have to be invited. Yes we have a good football program, but we have some serious fit problems that the SEC might not want. Its great to say leave the ACC and just join the SEC, but that is far easier said than done.
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Re: TNET: USA TODAY: "SEC needs Florida State, Clemson to close gap with Big Ten"
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Sep 4, 2025, 6:01 PM
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What serious fit problems? Name a couple?
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Orange Blooded [2552]
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Re: TNET: USA TODAY: "SEC needs Florida State, Clemson to close gap with Big Ten"
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Sep 5, 2025, 6:50 AM
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Reasons like we have two SEC schools on either side of us. SEC is a saavy marketing organization now...we represent a school at this is in a market saturated with SEC schools. It is more likely they will want to get into Virginia or North Carloina where there are no SEC schools. Their last two expansions were to get into different states. The average size of an SEC school is 40,000 students....that relates to size of fan bases and viewers we are competetive in viewers, but maybe not enough in a saturated market. We know SC would not want us in the SEC, but what if both Georgia and SC don't want us in and lobby hard against us joining?
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National Champion [7162]
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.Clemson to close gap with Big Ten"
Sep 4, 2025, 3:50 PM
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Did the article even mention Big10? Do you ever have anyone proofread your stuff before you press “publish?”
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Re: TNET: USA TODAY: "SEC needs Florida State, Clemson to close gap with Big Ten"
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Sep 4, 2025, 4:44 PM
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I guess this Matt Hayes person thinks money grows on a SEC money tree and they have $200 million or so sitting around to pay the exit fees to the ACC.
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The exit fee is $165M today and decreases my $18M per year.
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Sep 4, 2025, 5:08 PM
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Expansion isn’t happening tomorrow and the ROI may very well be justified at any point, and obviously it will be easier by the time expansion rolls around.
$75M by 2030, but in my opinion it’s all moot anyway as super leagues seem to be a sure thing for the future and it will require a complete realignment of the whole country.
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Re: TNET: USA TODAY: "SEC needs Florida State, Clemson to close gap with Big Ten"
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Sep 4, 2025, 5:55 PM
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I guess this Matt Hayes person thinks money grows on a SEC money tree and they have $200 million or so sitting around to pay the exit fees to the ACC.
The article contends Sankey’s invite would be contingent on the school’s paying their own exit fees. No doubt that would include revenue not yet distributed to the schools from ESPN. The article to me is pure opinion without much basis of knowledge about what Sankey thinks.
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When ESPN calls Sankey and says....
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Sep 4, 2025, 8:20 PM
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...."Give FSU and Clemson a call. We want them in the SEC" Sankey will make the call and Clemson and FSU will pull out their checkbooks and write the check. Until ESPN makes that call (and I think it will be within 12 months) Sankey will not make the call.
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Clemson & FSU are like SEC schools, but a better fit & more valuable for the B1G
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Sep 5, 2025, 3:44 AM
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Football-ically, Clemson is a good fit for the SEC or B1G, but academically and regional-footprint-expansion-ically, Clemson is more desirable to the B1G.
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Game Changer [1764]
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Re: Clemson & FSU are like SEC schools, but a better fit & more valuable for the B1G
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Sep 5, 2025, 8:19 PM
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I agree. I hope we stay in the ACC, but I would rather go to the B1G than SEC.
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Game Changer [1764]
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Re: TNET: USA TODAY: "SEC needs Florida State, Clemson to close gap with Big Ten"
Sep 5, 2025, 8:18 PM
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It's fine to have people courting you, but I like the ACC, and I do not like the SEC or Sankey. Let's have a great year and help the ACC recover its swagger. First weekend, other than our game, was a good start.
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Re: TNET: USA TODAY: "SEC needs Florida State, Clemson to close gap with Big Ten"
Sep 6, 2025, 10:22 AM
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SEC fans would like to see you in with us. The LSU game should show you what kind of games and fan interest would come with membership. How would you like to see come to your place in the future Bama, Texas, Texas A&M, Oklahoma, Auburn, Georgia, Florida, Tennessee, Ole Miss and you already have South Carolina? Your season ticket sales would go through the roof. It's a no brainer on your part. What will happen? No one knows.
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