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Clemson Icon [26505]
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This has nothing to do with portal/NIL
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This roster is loaded with NFL talent especially the front four. This is COACHING….period. We are out-schemed on both sides of the ball. We are wasting our talent and Klubnick looks like a freshman. He’s lost…can’t handle the pressure. And our coaches are lost. Sad to watch
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Re: This has nothing to do with portal/NIL
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I agree 100%. Also, here's something that everybody keeps skipping around but too many white guys on the field. Too many white guys on the team. We are slow and weaker than other teams. The Rot runs deep all the way down to the strength and conditioning program and nutrition.
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no speed, not athletic at skill, secondary***
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Re: This has nothing to do with portal/NIL
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Sep 20, 2025, 10:40 PM
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I'm a white guy and where's the lie.
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Re: This has nothing to do with portal/NIL
Sep 21, 2025, 8:30 AM
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I’m a white woman and I agree 👍
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National Champion [7195]
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OC / DC have not impressed.***
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Sep 20, 2025, 7:48 PM
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Legend [6887]
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Re: OC / DC have not impressed.***
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Sep 21, 2025, 7:26 AM
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Maybe because they are handcuffed by their leader....why do yall think Dabo will tie one hand behind his back when it comes to NIL and TP , but you think Dabo is not messing with the coordinators? Dabo has been screwing with the offensive playcalling for a while(6yrs at least)...
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Orange Elite [5388]
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Re: This has nothing to do with portal/NIL
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Sep 20, 2025, 7:49 PM
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Anybody that doesn’t think that recruiting and transfer portal doesn’t play a role in all of this you’re blind. Now it’s not the number one reason but it’s definitely a big reason.
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Athletic Dir [1173]
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Common freaking sense tells you that
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Sep 20, 2025, 7:53 PM
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You're behind the 8 ball when you're replacing transfers with high schoolers while everyone else is using college....not to mention everyone else is replacing weaknesses with strength.
I think we have issues everywhere. Talent and coaching.
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Gridiron Giant [15608]
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What transfers?
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Sep 20, 2025, 9:41 PM
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Do you follow Clemson football bro!
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Re: Common freaking sense tells you that
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Sep 20, 2025, 10:24 PM
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Welp, QB2 ain't no wet behind the ears Freshman. Supposed possible Heisman front runner preseason. Coaching sux.
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Gridiron Giant [15608]
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Sir, when the plays work as designed and there are open options right in
Sep 20, 2025, 10:35 PM
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front of the QB, how is that the coaches fault?
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Paw Master [17143]
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Re: Sir, when the plays work as designed and there are open options right in
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Sep 20, 2025, 11:47 PM
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Apparently, he is so poorly coached he doesn't know what to do.
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Gridiron Giant [15608]
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You mean do it like he did when we were 11th on Odense and Cade
Sep 21, 2025, 2:30 PM
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became a Heisman front runner?
He has been coached. He doesn’t execute and that’s 100% on him at this point.
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Re: Common freaking sense tells you that
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Sep 20, 2025, 11:39 PM
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I keep wondering where the team that fought Texas so hard went? Where did that quarterback go? So much for "culture".
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We lost to Texas by 14. LOL.***
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Gridiron Giant [15608]
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The portal has nothing to do with where we are. Nothing at all.
Sep 20, 2025, 10:19 PM
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A) we don’t have guys transferring out, so we have no room.
B) Even if we did have guys transferring out, that doesn’t mean the portal has elite players all over the place that magically transform your team.
There’s zero evidence to support that notion.
And yes I’m aware there have been portal players who have flashed and been part of good teams, but the only reason they are there is because the new team had to replace guys who left the program due to lack of playing time.
The portal has moved the needle for literally nobody.
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Re: The portal has nothing to do with where we are. Nothing at all.
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Sep 20, 2025, 10:22 PM
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Kathleen give it a rest.
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Gridiron Giant [15608]
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LOL. Have anything to add to the discussion ?***
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Athletic Dir [1173]
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You need to go back and look at our transfer
Sep 20, 2025, 10:41 PM
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portal history. There were plenty transferring out. Not tons of starters but plenty off the 2 deep that went on to start at other programs. The only 2 we've brought in were last year. Too little too late.
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Orange Elite [5388]
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Re: The portal has nothing to do with where we are. Nothing at all.
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Sep 20, 2025, 10:45 PM
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A. Do you know why there’s no room? Because when we couldn’t fill those classes or had flips and filled those spots with low rated players that had offers form places like Furman. If you want me to name those players I can. There’s a bunch of dead weight on this team. Players that should have never gotten an offer.
B. I can give you examples from almost every team that has successful portal players. The WB that beat us today was a transfer and that’s one of hundreds that I could mention across all of CFB.
The portal has moved the needle for literally no one? We don’t have to look far at all to find teams that portal players changed their outcome. SC isn’t 9-3 last year without the portal. Not even close. They don’t have the year they had in 2022 had it not been for transfer QB and WR.
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CU Guru [1548]
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Re: The portal has nothing to do with where we are. Nothing at all.
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Sep 20, 2025, 10:51 PM
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J also bro… no need to argue or try to explain anything to that dude.
He’s nothing but a troll who loves to hear himself talk and wonders why nobody wants to answer him back. Maybe bc he doesn’t even read the response bc he’s waiting to talk instead of trying to really listen.
Dude has no clue about football or roster management.
When anyone in today’s college football says… “the portal has changed nothing for no one”… that tells you all you need to know about their knowledge and whether they’re worth having a conversation with.
This guy is not worth your time or breath bro. He refuses to see any other way than it’s entirely 1000% all Cade and literally nothing else is wrong.
I’ve seen… “if our 5 star QB played like a 5 star… we’re 4-0 period” so many times on here from him tonight that I’m tired of seeing it.
He’s one that refuses to blame the real culprit which is Dabo and will do or say anything to not put the blame on who deserves it most… no matter how many people try to tell him.
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Re: The portal has nothing to do with where we are. Nothing at all.
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Sep 20, 2025, 10:46 PM
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Quite literally our best player this year is Will Heldt, the only legit portal player we’ve ever picked up.
Your argument is stale. It is indisputable that you must utilize the portal this day and age.
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Athletic Dir [1173]
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Give me the bruiser from Missouri
Sep 21, 2025, 7:31 AM
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Who cam from Louisiana Monroe i believe
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Sep 20, 2025, 10:45 PM
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J… no matter how many times we try to tell people… they refuse to accept it.
They can’t accept that it’s a huge huge problem.
The only problem? Certainly not
The biggest problem? Nope
A big friggin problem nonetheless? You bet your @ss it is!
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Top TigerNet [30994]
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Re: This has nothing to do with portal/NIL
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Sep 20, 2025, 7:54 PM
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OC and DC. They suck.
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NFL Talent?........lol....nowhere close to what we had before.....
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Sep 20, 2025, 7:55 PM
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this has a LOT to do with portal or lack thereof............and yes coaching is terrible........development is awful........it's a lot of EVERYTHING, but to say it has "nothing" to do w/ portal/NIL is an ignorant statement.
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Clemson Icon [26505]
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THIS roster and us sucking so far has
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Sep 20, 2025, 9:29 PM
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nothing to do with the portal/NIL. That’s just an excuse for poor coaching and a team that has no fight. I haven’t seen a team like this since the Bowden days. There’s only a few “dawgs” on this team but on paper we’re loaded with them. Let that sink in
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Re: THIS roster and us sucking so far has
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Sep 20, 2025, 9:36 PM
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Totally agree on poor coaching, but I’m really starting to question how talented these guys really are. Is it just more rat poison that we all sucked down?
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Game Changer [2061]
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Re: THIS roster and us sucking so far has
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Sep 20, 2025, 10:48 PM
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They're not that talented. It's been obvious.
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Associate AD [1004]
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Re: THIS roster and us sucking so far has
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Sep 20, 2025, 9:47 PM
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Don’t be foolish. The best player on defense so far this season Heldt. The portal is a problem.
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Standout [233]
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Re: THIS roster and us sucking so far has
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Poor portal usage is poor coaching. In this era, players need to be scared that if they don’t earn their keep, coach will portal someone in to fight for the position. The current players have no fight because they have NIL and safe starting jobs
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Re: THIS roster and us sucking so far has
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Agree on this completely. Dabo thought he was doing something good by not using the portal. He basically handed highly rated HS recruits tenure. As long as they want to be at Clemson, pledge their loyalty to Clemson, they’ll be here. Unless another high school player is THAT much better. Last time I remember him doing that was TL taking over the starting job from Kelly Bryant. Instead of a culture of meritocracy, he fostered a culture of entitlement.
And what’s worse is when the players look at the coaching staff, they see the same thing. Loyalty to Clemson, I’m good.
I don’t think Dabo realizes what he’s done the past few years. When you surround yourself with yes men, you end up with a lot of blind spots.
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Gridiron Giant [15608]
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Simple question for you, Charmin.
Sep 20, 2025, 9:46 PM
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If we had a QB playing 80% of DW or TL, would we be 1-3 or 4-0?
You’re literally throwing slop at the wall without any football IQ whatsoever.
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Clemson Icon [25970]
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You've been posting what a few months now?
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Sep 20, 2025, 9:48 PM
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Go away.
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Gridiron Giant [15608]
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Are you crying Charmin?
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Sep 20, 2025, 10:02 PM
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I mean you abo have a right to get on here and b!tch like a menstruating woman, but you just really don’t have a clue what you’re talking about.
I mean that’s not personal at all, other than you’re as soft as Charmin, but you have embarrassingly low football IQ.
Can you wipe the tears and just answer the question?
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Standout [233]
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Re: Are you crying Charmin?
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Sep 20, 2025, 11:00 PM
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I like that your two counters are: a general speculation if we had a player that was “80%” of Deshaun or Trevor how would we do, which is such an incredibly vague and nebulous standard; and then, your second criticism, is saying the person you disagree with is a “menstruating woman.” I’m sure your wife would love to see that, your ex wife’s divorce decision would be confirmed, or, if you’ve never been married, you understand why women wouldn’t want to be with someone you views someone disagreeing with them as “menstruating women”. You dumba$$
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Gridiron Giant [15608]
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Associate AD [1004]
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Re: Neither the NIL or the portal have anything to do with anything.
Sep 20, 2025, 9:48 PM
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Multiple championship teams have been built around transfer portal.
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Gridiron Giant [15608]
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The elite have remained the elite, an nobody has popped on the scene because of
Sep 20, 2025, 10:14 PM
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transfers.
Again, when you lose 5, 10, even 20+ players to the portal then you are forced to sign nor out of the portal. That doesn’t mean you’re getting better and in fact may mean the sum is less overall talent.
I’ve seen some championship teams with petal guys, but that’s because they had to sign them. It may net out better and might not. Just because a guy is in the portal it doesn’t mean he’s some sort of elite talent that’s replacing bad players. He’s transferring more than likely because he’s not not happy with playing time. That doesn’t mean he’s a better option than the guy who he’s replacing.
I’ve seen some transfer guys pop, but again, the elite have remained the elite, and nobody has moved into the elite due to the portal. Nobody. I can’t even think of a team who has become more relevant due to the portal.
Who are your championship teams that were built with the portal?
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Athletic Dir [1173]
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The elite used the transfer portal sparingly
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Sep 21, 2025, 7:20 AM
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And remained elite. We didn't use it at all and dropped like a rock. Again, it's not the only problem but it's part of the problem.
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Sep 20, 2025, 9:34 PM
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Too many former players as coaches with no coaching experience when hired. It's finally catching up with Dabo. House needs to be cleaned.
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Re: This has nothing to do with portal/NIL
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We should definitely be playing better. And I agree with a lot that you say . But our recruiting has slipped over the past few years. I don’t think we are as talented as some people think we are.
Also think our strength and conditioning has gone downhill.
This program has multiple issues. Not just one. But agree Coaching is definitely a big issue. And if you don’t think that the portal could’ve helped us more, I just don’t know what to say to you. Look, we don’t need to use it like some teams, but use it like Alabama and Georgia. Use it to fill critical holes like 5 to 7 kids a year.
If you are not going to use the portal like we haven’t up until last year… YOU BETTER BE #### GOOD AT RECRUITING HIGH SCHOOL KIDS. ELITE. AND WE ARE NOT. We are literally playing the modern college game with one hand tied behind our back. For what reason? CDS THINK HE HAS IT ALL FIGURED OUT AND GUYS LIKE DAY, SMART, ETC. ALL THOSE COACHES DON’T GET IT. Sorry for the caps didn’t mean to do that
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Gridiron Giant [15608]
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Okay Ill play your portal game.
Sep 20, 2025, 9:53 PM
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1. The portal has transformed nobody. When a team loses players they’re forced to sign players out of the portal. They could be worse than the players who left. It’s a wild misnomer that the portal is transforming anyone. Not one single team can say they’ve become better because they had no choice but to sign portal guys.
2. We have the best talent retention in the country. Are you suggesting we kick guys off the team to make room for portal guys, who are normally leaving their teams because of a lack of playing time?
Again, it doesn’t matter who you have played where, unless the QB executes plays right in front of his it’s all for naught.
The clear and obvious issue facing our program in the last 4 years has been that lack of a great QB. Period. It simply can’t be disputed.
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Orange Beast [6423]
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Re: Okay Ill play your portal game.
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Then why all the bad play from the offensive and defensive line????????
Many teams, Alabama, Georgia, Ohio Ohio State have benefited from portal players. Some of those players have helped them win national championships. Keon Coleman single-handedly beat us a few years ago. Who said anything about kicking anybody off??!? Huh??? Replace the players that leave with better players.
No one is freaking disputing that the quarterback play is subpar. But to ignore all the other issues is beyond beyond simple minded. Look at the the underwhelming performance of other position groups.
It’s that simple.
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Clemson Icon [25970]
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Don't argue with a fool, it's a waste of time.
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Gridiron Giant [15608]
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Oooh Charmin, youre upset because I called you out for a lack
Sep 20, 2025, 10:39 PM
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of football IQ. Otherwise you have nothing but, well being as soft as Charmin.
Of you can prove me wrong, I’ll certainly admit it. But calling me a fool because you have no coherent rebuttal isn’t working or fooling anyone .
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Standout [233]
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Re: Oooh Charmin, youre upset because I called you out for a lack
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Our record proves you wrong, idiot. You are defending an obviously broken system at Clemson
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Gridiron Giant [15608]
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Yet again, the elephant in the room is the QB
Sep 20, 2025, 10:24 PM
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The most important position on the field.
Unless you have that it doesn’t matter who transfers and who comes in.
Unless you’re taking about signing an elite QB from the portal, it literally can’t fix the elephant in the room.
What simple is - you cannot be great until you have a great QB.
Just for kicks and giggles tho, can you name the players you’d lie to replace with a hit or miss transfer, and how would these players change the most important position on the field?
It’s fun to speculate going to Walmart to get elite guys off the shelf, but that’s not the case in the portal.
Name two teams who are great and don’t have a great QB.
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Re: Okay Ill play your portal game.
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Indiana and Arizona St are literally examples of teams “coming on the scene” out of nowhere bc of the portal just last season.
This fool just said nobody has come on the scene bc of the portal. I just gave you 2 historically underachieving programs that made the playoffs last year.
You’re entire argument is crushed by this one observation alone.
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Gridiron Giant [15608]
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Out of everything you said there -
Sep 20, 2025, 9:44 PM
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If the QB plays better than we are 4-0.
Simple as that, and it’s fully accurate.
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Rival Killer [2899]
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Re: Out of everything you said there -
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I don’t think today’s loss can be blamed on Cade. The defense got absolutely gashed today. I know we only scored 21 but the defense allowed long drive after long drive. Something on that side of the ball is waaaay off.
I may be wrong but I think we’ve gone 4-0 on coin toss this season, deferred every time, and each time have allowed long drives or scoring drives to start the game. There’s no attack mentality on defense. We need to be ready to play at the opening kickoff!
Hopefully a bye week will allow some retooling but I’m just hoping for a Mayo Bowl berth at this point.
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Re: Out of everything you said there -
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We definitely look way slower than other teams out there.
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Re: Out of everything you said there -
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Exactly
To say the quarterback is, the only issue is just so beyond the pale. Definitely a big issue, but they are many many big issues going on.
The drop off on defense is very noticeable since BV left.
Strength and conditioning is an issue
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Gridiron Giant [15608]
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I didnt say hes the only issue. There a couple.
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But without a great QB you simply cannot be great.
Other than the defense getting gashed much of the day, there really is nothing else to pin it on…
Other than the Senior QB missing game changing plays time and time again.
If he plays great we hit those plays.
Same with GT, and especially the same for LSU.
Again, if we had 80% of a DW or TL, then we’re 4-0 and all this handwringing isn’t happening.
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CU Guru [1548]
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Re: I didnt say hes the only issue. There a couple.
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You have absolutely stated literally 100 times on this board for a couple weeks that it’s Cade and Cade slimes fault we’re losing.
Backpedaling? Yep bc you realize how ridiculous you sound after today
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Rival Killer [2899]
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Re: I didnt say hes the only issue. There a couple.
Sep 20, 2025, 11:04 PM
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Randall’s fumble was the dagger that finished off any hope of a W. Sad because Adam Randall was one of a very few players who really performed well and with heart today. Klubnik played a pretty good game I thought.
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Game Day Hero [4552]
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Re: This has nothing to do with portal/NIL
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Sep 20, 2025, 10:43 PM
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The players aren't as advertised.
H3ll , I watched a RB run over Peter Woods
1st rounder. Not
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Game Changer [2061]
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Re: This has nothing to do with portal/NIL
Sep 20, 2025, 10:45 PM
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No it's talent.
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I dont know the answers
Sep 21, 2025, 7:35 AM
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but I agree with you on coaching right now.
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Clemson Sports Icon [54051]
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I agree. It is sweet how the Dabo apologists keep trying to blame NIL
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for players not playing hard and for us losing. But Dabo is not a victim here.
Plenty of teams that supposedly pay players more than we do are doing just fine. Money doesn’t seem to ruin those teams.
This is a coaching problem, just like it has been for five plus years.
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Asst Coach [873]
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Re: I agree. It is sweet how the Dabo apologists keep trying to blame NIL
Sep 21, 2025, 9:06 AM
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Are you saying the “friends and family plan” ain’t working?
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Head Coach [984]
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Re: This has nothing to do with portal/NIL
Sep 21, 2025, 8:07 AM
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Even if it were about the talent on the roster, it still boils down to Dabo. He hires the coaches that evaluate the players to recruit, he sets the NIL/portal philosophy, and he does some evaluation himself. So, no matter how you slice it, buck stops at Dabo. Abject failure on all counts.
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CU Medallion [20905]
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Not much from the DBs yesterday. LBs are OK hitting the line but not good
Sep 21, 2025, 8:08 AM
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in coverage. And something is wrong on the DL: either effort, scheme, or technique. Hard to believe where we are versus talent and last year.
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Tiger Cub [11]
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Re: This has nothing to do with portal/NIL
Sep 21, 2025, 8:08 AM
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CU has plenty of talent,but I don't see the fire the tiger defense is known for. I am disappointed with them for sure. I was really excited when they hired Allen, but something is missing. Now on offense riley is in way over his head. He has no clue what to do. His schemes are predictable. The offense never seems to get in any kind of groove. The few times they do they can look good. I think the pressure is getting to the whole team. They don't seem to be loosening up and enjoying the thing they love. As far as Cabe goes he's feeling the pressure and I put all that on Riley, he's not much more than a kid himself. One year at TCU got him here. We all know how that season ended.
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