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Twice now, Clemson has made Big hires for new Coordinators
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Oct 16, 2025, 4:57 AM
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but did not allow them to assemble their own staff. That just doesn't make sense to me.
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It would eliminate many unnecessary obstacles..
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Oct 16, 2025, 6:05 AM
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allow a smoother transition, and peak instruction by staff who are already well versed in the system/scheme. It may not be the norm but it seems irrational not to allow it, is f winning is the #1 goal
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Game Changer [1720]
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This is a part that isn't thought about too much. The staff has to learn the
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incoming system before the players do. They have to learn a completely new vocabulary, scheme, steps, positions, responsibilities, etc. They have to learn it to a point that it's second nature and have to understand the "whys" to be able to explain it to the players.
This takes months, not weeks. Sometimes it takes a season before the light comes on for all of the coaches.
Having a core group of assistants come with the DC or OC would have been a big step toward being able to quickly implement.
I help with a middle school team. We've had three new varsity staffs in three years, so we've had three different offensive AND defensive systems in that time. Our schemes are very simple, but it takes a LONG time before a coach can seamlessly teach and answer players' questions. I can't imagine how long it takes to absorb a college level system!
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Orange Blooded [2322]
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Re: This is a part that isn't thought about too much. The staff has to learn the
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Oct 16, 2025, 8:40 AM
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This is a prime example of how things are moving way too fast in college football. Getting rid of coordinators, position coaches etc. that have to learn schemes very quickly. The caveat to that is the player revolving door. The time to coach a player has been reduced to weeks and days. Then the process starts all over in a few months.
It's a strange world. You have to recruit/pick up transfers that are good, coachable and can learn quickly. But not too good, then they'll leave. The team can't function as a unit. The coaches get blamed, rinse repeat.
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Re: This is a part that isn't thought about too much. The staff has to learn the
Oct 16, 2025, 5:44 PM
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Thats where seasoned/experienced coaches
excell with raw recruits/transfer players,
these seasoned/experienced coaches have
"come-thru-the-Fire" so to speak. They
have sacrificed and work their way up
along the way learning, experiencing ups
and downs hoping thru their hard work
and determination it will payoff big time
for them someday.That's the kind of coaches
we would like to see at Clemson.
Unfortunately for the most part we
don't see those type of coaches today
at Clemson. During Championship runs/years
those coaches were there and the
results were outstanding!!!
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But youre hiring someone based on the O/D youve seen them run.
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Oct 16, 2025, 6:49 AM
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You wouldn’t hire a heart surgeon that only performed open heart surgeries the old school way by hand when your hospital only uses robotics.
The way it sounds Dabo should just use ChapGPT to run his scheme.
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Happens often in business, industry and is perfectly sensible to many.
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Oct 16, 2025, 6:52 AM
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theChad, BV, ScElliott hired no one, that's up to the man in charge who not only has to review them, but may have to fire them as well.
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Re: Twice now, Clemson has made Big hires for new Coordinators
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Oct 16, 2025, 8:31 AM
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With the limit of 11 on field coaches being removed, I'd think that if a coordinator wanted to bring in a couple we could find room. Perhaps it was discussed between Allen and Dabo and for whatever reasons they decided not to. Just because we got Allen doesn't mean his assistants would want to come as well. At the time Penn State was just coming out of the playoffs so maybe the assistants wanted to stay thinking it was going to be great this year. I'd bet they might be regretting that decision now.
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Re: Twice now, Clemson has made Big hires for new Coordinators
Oct 16, 2025, 9:13 AM
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It didn't seem to bother Coach Venables and if the defense continues to play as well as they did Saturday, Coach Allen's guys may set records.
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Re: Twice now, Clemson has made Big hires for new Coordinators
Oct 16, 2025, 9:50 AM
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The only real coaching change I want to see is the hiring of a very qualified quaterbacks coach instead of it being a time split for the OC.
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Re: Twice now, Clemson has made Big hires for new Coordinators
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Where would Dabo's buddies and family go to coach if the coordinators put together their own staff?
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Re: Twice now, Clemson has made Big hires for new Coordinators
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Oct 16, 2025, 10:13 AM
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the sushine pumpers that thinks DABO does no wrong dont want to admit this but yes this is the problem.
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Re: Twice now, Clemson has made Big hires for new Coordinators
Oct 16, 2025, 4:38 PM
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No, we just think he is "righter" than you!
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That's one reason I'm not on the "fire Riley" bus...
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Oct 16, 2025, 10:18 AM
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I think him, Luke, Allen make a good foundation. Dabo needs to let them bring in whoever they want and use the portal / recruit who they want.
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Re: Twice now, Clemson has made Big hires for new Coordinators
Oct 16, 2025, 10:46 AM
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What major program let their coordinators choose staff?
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Re: Twice now, Clemson has made Big hires for new Coordinators***
Oct 16, 2025, 4:22 PM
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Re: Twice now, Clemson has made Big hires for new Coordinators
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How do you know that? And how do you know that nay of the position coaches wanted to to come. As you may or may not know, quite often the position coaches contracts are for multiple years and I guess may also have buy-outs if they leave.
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That's not how it works anywhere***
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