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Legend [16263]
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Suggested ACC plan for UMD's $50 Mil...
Jul 3, 2013, 1:36 PM
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Pay off Wake Forest to join the AAC or Sun Belt. Then pay the Big 12 for WVa's GOR. The B12 is already making concessions to accommodate the scheduling and travel dilemmas it invited upon itself by going so far east. Let's encourage this last little tweak and everyone be the better for it down the road.
Except Wake fans I reckon, and maybe Wake's AD. Could it be worth it to them though to collect a fat paycheck or two without the burden of having to pump the funds back into their football program like they'll be obligated to do in the ACC to keep up going forward? It's a whole new ballgame in the unfolding major college football landscape. It could conceivably be a deal worth taking.
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110%er [6781]
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I know Wake is not big time
Jul 3, 2013, 1:47 PM
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but every conference has to have a scrub to beat up on.
ACC - Wake and Duke
Big 12 - Baylor and Iowa St
Big 10 - Northwestern and Minnesota
Pac 12 - Utah and Washington State
SEC - South Carolina and Kentucky
Besides I like Wake away games. I park across the street from the stadium
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Re: I know Wake is not big time
Jul 3, 2013, 2:01 PM
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Wow, Clemson has an all time losing record against 1 SEC scrub and lost 4 in a row to the other.
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Legend [19202]
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Wow. Clemson has a all time winning record against the
Jul 3, 2013, 2:02 PM
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mighty Cooters! GO TIGERS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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110%er [6781]
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Orange Blooded [4787]
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check out y'alls atr against the "acc scrubs".
Jul 4, 2013, 6:08 AM
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i wouldn't even talk if i were in y'alls shoes.
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Orange Blooded [2245]
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Re: Suggested ACC plan for UMD's $50 Mil...
Jul 3, 2013, 1:49 PM
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you got my vote.
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Honestly, I think I'd try to send BC packing before Wake
Jul 3, 2013, 1:51 PM
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It's an awesome trip but BC is a terribly poor fit for the ACC.
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Legend [16263]
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Two years ago I would have agreed with you. But with the
Jul 3, 2013, 1:59 PM
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league having made the determination since that the length of the east coast is their goal, plus a target for larger east coast TV markets being a critical element of the league's long-term financial strategy, the line is set. NC possesses four programs now in a 14-team and is the oddity.
Repositioning Wake would have little to no impact on league fortunes, the opposite in fact if it was West Va. that was assuming their spot.
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All-TigerNet [13038]
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I admit that this is about 99% irrational, but i cannot
Jul 3, 2013, 1:56 PM
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stand WVU and i don't want them anywhere near our conference.
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Legend [16263]
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That's the passion I'm looking for though. I loved to hate
Jul 3, 2013, 2:02 PM
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Maryland and now we won't have that to look forward to. The league could use another program that brings out the passion in people, whichever side it's on.
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CU Medallion [64593]
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Have you ever encountered Syracuse fans....
Jul 3, 2013, 2:05 PM
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As bas as West Virginia, Maryland, NC State and Georgia fans are, Syracuse fans, at least in my experience, are worse.
Unless there have been some drastic changes since the last time I encountered them, this will be an easy group to dislike.
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Legend [16263]
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Awesome. I look forward to it. I hope they travel well.***
Jul 3, 2013, 2:07 PM
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Letterman [255]
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I agree. Wake brings nothing good to this conference. They
Jul 3, 2013, 2:03 PM
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have a TV market that is already covered by UNC & NCST. They have no fans, a few students, their sports stink,their facilities aren’t up to BCS standards & their academics are middle of the pack in the ACC. So, show them the money. I figure since they sold out once when they moved from Wake Forest to Winston they would probably be willing to do it again.
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Their academics are middle of the pack in the ACC ?!?!?!
Jul 3, 2013, 2:10 PM
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According to US News, from an academic standpoint, at 27 Wake currently ranks third in the ACC behind only Duke and UVa.
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Letterman [255]
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US News is Junk. You can't tell me that Wake is above GT,
Jul 3, 2013, 2:45 PM
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Pitt or UNC. I'm not saying they are bad, but they are basically just Furman or Davidson in a BCS conference.
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CU Medallion [64593]
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Here are the US News rankings
Jul 3, 2013, 3:03 PM
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8. Duke
24. Virginia
27. Wake Forest
30. North Carolina
31. Boston College
36. Georgia Tech
44. Miami
58. Syracuse
58. Maryland
58. Pittsburgh
68. Clemson
72. Virginia Tech
97. Florida State
106. North Carolina State
If you prefer to use Princeton Review, Wake still ranks in the top four.
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Letterman [255]
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So we should keep them for their for their academics? The
Jul 3, 2013, 11:09 PM
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Difference between 27 & 36 is minimal which in my book still puts them in the middle of the pack. However, you totally missed my other points about the real issues with their athletics and how they create a drag on the pocketbook of the everyone else in the conference.
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Can we get rid of Duke also & add UConn***
Jul 3, 2013, 2:06 PM
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Legend [19202]
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I rather add a Southern School like UCF over
Jul 3, 2013, 2:09 PM
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UConn.
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I suppose this is a joke, and while the league still needs a
Jul 3, 2013, 2:11 PM
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football patsy or two as someone noted above and this would be an even swap, Duke is just too much a major contributor to the league's now premier basketball identity. UConn's program will struggle now that Calhoun has retired and the better Big East basketball programs have all left.
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Wake needs a new AD. ******
Jul 3, 2013, 2:48 PM
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UCF
Jul 3, 2013, 11:26 PM
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They are a sleeping giant. Huge school football crazy state. Big city no pro team.
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Over West Va?***
Jul 3, 2013, 11:31 PM
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Legend [16263]
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So to bolster the case, Wake ranks 99th in the Director's
Jul 3, 2013, 11:30 PM
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Cup standings, which spans the success of 20 sports (10M, 10W). Now, I don't wanna be a Wake basher... Don't wanna do it, but... a thousand points of light.
http://espn.go.com/blog/acc/post/_/id/57268/north-carolina-tops-acc-in-directors-cup
So, put West Va in the Coastal with Va.Tech (their renewed rivalry plans today for a 2-year home/away sparked the thought) and move Ga. Tech over to the Atlantic where they would join us (natural), FSU, NC State, Louisville, BC, and Syracuse, with the Coastal fielding West Va, Va Tech, Miami, UNC, Pitt, UVA and Duke.
After that, put a fork in it and let's play ball.
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Make it a signing bonus for ND.
Jul 4, 2013, 6:41 AM
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Screw WV jr college I want NoterDame. They have the star power, get the face time on ESPiN, give us SOS because of their popularity with the polls(for no apparent reason) and are more marketable than anyone else we out side the SEC.
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Legend [16263]
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I'm pretty content with ND in the position they are in. The
Jul 4, 2013, 9:59 AM
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5 game annual rotating schedule already delivers a lot of this exposure (interesting that they'll face all ACC teams in play more often than the rest of the league members will, 3 years vs. 6 for some), plus, I believe there's an added benefit of having ND's home games broadcast nationally on NBC instead of all of our games airing only on ESPN. NBC's college football programming is scant so 2-3 times / year the ACC will be heavily featured and promoted nationally over the air ahead of a league team visiting South Bend. That's not a bad deal at all. In the long run, this could also help set up NBC as a potential bidder for the league's primary rights when it comes back around in 12 years.
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