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STILL The Greatest ACC Basketball Player I Ever Saw(c/p)
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STILL The Greatest ACC Basketball Player I Ever Saw(c/p)


Oct 5, 2012, 3:28 PM

and since seeing my first ACC basketball game in Fike Field House in 1957, I've seen a ton of 'em come through the league----DT was the best--excuse the nostalgia.



Published Fri, Oct 05, 2012 12:00 AM
Modified Fri, Oct 05, 2012 12:02 PM
DeCock: Thompson's legacy resonates in words of those who admire him

By Luke DeCock - staff columnist

As David Thompson joins the inaugural class in N.C. State’s Hall of Fame on Friday, almost 39 years after his sky-walking ways led the Wolfpack to a national championship, the basketball star from Shelby still rises far, far above his peers.

He changed the way the game was played, taking it off the floor and “above the rim,” a phrase coined to describe Thompson’s game. Despite his relatively diminutive stature, he created the modern small forward or “3” position, a player equally comfortable inside or outside, the prototype for the game Michael Jordan, who idolized Thompson, would one day play.

And yet there’s an entire generation of basketball fans and players who never saw Thompson play. His greatest exploits, in college and the 1976 American Basketball Association dunk contest with Julius Erving, predated the saturation TV coverage basketball gets today. And his NBA career fizzled because of injuries and drug abuse just as that league was beginning its climb to transcendent popularity.

“It’s obviously a great honor, going in the first (Hall of Fame) class,” Thompson said. “There will never be another first class. When you look upon all the greats in the history of N.C. State, there are a lot of people I respect and admire.”

It’s an affirmation of just how good Thompson was, that his name and legacy still resonate in these words, from those who knew him best and those who admired him from afar.

How would you describe Thompson’s game to someone who never saw him play?

“I don’t know if they could understand it. You almost had to experience being in the league with him, being on the team with him, watching him dominate people – the things he did, not just during the season, but the pickup games in Carmichael Gym. He was just truly in a class by himself.” Monte Towe

“If you saw him when he was 20 years old, you’d be absolutely amazed at what he could do. His jumping ability was so phenomenal, but he developed his whole game. The ‘Skywalker’ nickname wasn’t just it. He was a defensive player. He shot the ball from outside. He could put it on the floor. He was our go-to guy, no question about that. He had all the confidence in the world out there in crunch time: ‘Get me the ball.’ And he’d do it for us.” Tim Stoddard

“Of course there was his jumping ability. But his jump shot was the biggest thing. He was a great jump-shooter. That’s what he did most of the time. I know you had the alley-oop passes and all that, but he was a great, great jump-shooter.” Charlie Scott

“He did it without any fanfare. He just got the ball and went to work and you went ‘aah,’ ‘ooh,’ ‘wow.’ There wasn’t any drum roll or cymbals. He had a classy way of pulling your heart out while it was still beating. You admired him so, but there wasn’t much you could do about it.” Bucky Waters

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How important was Thompson to winning the 1974 national championship?

“It was six against five. ‘DT’ counted as two.” Phil Spence

“Winning meant everything to him. It just so happened that winning sometimes meant he had to score 40 points.” Towe

“From Day One, from the time we got together with him, I don’t think there was ever a time when we didn’t think we were going to win. It was going to be a battle. At some point, you were going to have to find a way to beat us.” Stoddard

“When they beat UCLA, it was a time when UCLA really thought of being unbeatable. I would think that his ability at that time, what N.C. State did, was really one of the great things of that time. He was the central point of that story.” Scott

“Honestly, we had a great team: 30-1, national champions. It helped that I was a leader and key player on that team, ACC Player of the Year, national player of the year. You still see clips from that team, like my block of Bill Walton.” Thompson

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Did anyone realize at the time Thompson was changing the game to the extent that he did?

“He was the original high-flyer. Now there’s guys who are a little bit bigger, get a little bit higher. Taking the dunk out of basketball, not getting to watch David Thompson dunk a basketball, was one of the biggest tragedies ever in college basketball.” Towe

“I thought I was a pretty good dunker. DT, he put all that stuff to shame. He sure did.” Spence

“Growing up on Long Island, our crew of guys playing ball at the park would always try to imitate certain people. None of us could imitate David Thompson. He was doing things I don’t think any of us ever recalled seeing before.” Matt Doherty

“He kept (the ABA) alive. We went from 11 teams to seven and we were about to go under. It was the great play of Julius (Erving) and David and (Dan) Issel and Artis Gilmore. We had great players, and if we could just stay alive past the (1976) All-Star Game, we could get a merger going. We just needed to keep our great players out front. Thompson was very important to the NBA’s ultimate decision to take four teams.” Carl Scheer

“I definitely see a lot of his game nowadays watching basketball. The evolution of the small-forward position, not only being able to knock it down from outside but to get the basketball and finish above the rim, he definitely was a pioneer in basketball in starting all that.” Julius Hodge

“Me and Julius (Erving), we really brought the high-flying into the game at the 1976 All-Star Game. The 360s, the windmills, the tomahawks, all the things guys are doing now, those are all things we started. You’re seeing guys still doing that today, spectacular players. We started the alley-oop, way back in the ’70s.” Thompson

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Is it possible for fans and players today to truly appreciate how good Thompson was?

“He was just one of a kind. It’s like a piece of art. People who watched him play, they’ll never see another one like him.” Towe

“I think it’s something that takes time, for the young players to truly appreciate what Mr. Thompson was able to bring to N.C. State. Even for me, my first year, I maybe wasn’t as enlightened as I am now. As time grew, I definitely became in tune with the legend. Even now, we just had an alumni dinner a couple weeks ago. When I saw him, I saw still just a little kid who wanted to ask for his autograph and take a picture with him.” Hodge

“Sometimes, you talk about guys who played in the ’70s or earlier who may have been great players, but their games wouldn’t be relevant, as relevant, today. I do believe David Thompson would be relevant today. You could take the same David Thompson, freeze him from 1974, drop him into 2012, I still think he’d be a great player.” Doherty

“Whether you were watching, coaching or sitting at home, you were on the edge of your seat. You were going to see something you never saw before.” Waters

“It’s amazing. Even though the kids are really young now, they know my name, know what I did. That shows a lot of class, a lot of respect.” Thompson

Read more here: http://www.newsobserver.com/2012/10/05/2390935/decock-thompsons-legacy-resonates.html#storylink=cpy

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Re: STILL The Greatest ACC Basketball Player I Ever Saw(c/p)


Oct 5, 2012, 3:32 PM

yep. no dunk or three point shot then yet he still put on a show. I have always believed he could jump sut about as high as he felt he needed to. I think they said his verticle leap was 46 or 48". whatever it was he was an amazing player.

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Re: STILL The Greatest ACC Basketball Player I Ever Saw(c/p)


Oct 5, 2012, 3:41 PM

One of the first memories I have of him was when he hit his head on the backboard in a game against Pitt.

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Re: STILL The Greatest ACC Basketball Player I Ever Saw(c/p)


Oct 5, 2012, 4:39 PM

Hit Phil spence in the back of his head with his knee. spence was 6'8".

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yep......


Oct 5, 2012, 5:13 PM

DT basically "tripped" over Spence's shoulders and took a hard crash to the floor--and lay there for what seemed an interminable amount of time.

His return to the floor, head bandaged, was one of the most incredible things I've ever seen in collegiate basketball

One of my biggest thrill as an undergrad, was getting to see DT play as senior....sat about 3 rows from the floor. And remarkably, the Tigers won.

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Re: STILL The Greatest ACC Basketball Player I Ever Saw(c/p)


Oct 5, 2012, 3:42 PM

I sure agree!! IMHO he was the best of the best..MJ was outstanding but DT was unbelievable

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Re: STILL The Greatest ACC Basketball Player I Ever Saw(c/p)


Oct 5, 2012, 4:29 PM

Totally agree, David Thompson was 'rare air' indeed. He was a true game changer. I think of the players like Pete Maravich and Michael Jordan, that you mentioned, as amazingly gifted players in their own right...and wonder what others, like Lenny Bias, might have done --- but David Thompson just captivated me with his ability like nobody else ever has!

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Re: STILL The Greatest ACC Basketball Player I Ever Saw(c/p)


Oct 5, 2012, 4:31 PM

Len Bias was up there as well.

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He was a great player for sure, but..............


Oct 5, 2012, 4:33 PM

I think this guy was the best I've ever seen, certainly in my years at Clemson......
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pete_Maravich

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Tree Rollins was a little before my time ... Ralph Sampson


Oct 5, 2012, 5:07 PM

was the dominant player I remember from my youth.

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Re: STILL The Greatest ACC Basketball Player I Ever Saw(c/p)


Oct 5, 2012, 5:16 PM

i think skip wise only played one year
first fros to make all acc

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Re: STILL The Greatest ACC Basketball Player I Ever Saw(c/p)


Oct 5, 2012, 6:41 PM

Yep and he was freshman the same year s Phil Ford !!

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Re: STILL The Greatest ACC Basketball Player I Ever Saw(c/p)


Oct 5, 2012, 5:20 PM

I know a guy who payed against Thompson in high school. His coach told him not to let Thompson score. My friend fouled out in the first quarter.

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Re: STILL The Greatest ACC Basketball Player I Ever Saw(c/p)


Oct 5, 2012, 6:35 PM

I saw David Thompson play, I saw Lenny Bias play, I saw Skip Wise play and got to see Mike play...Skip was the best.....what a waste

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I lived in Raleigh durirng the time David Thompson was NCSU


Oct 5, 2012, 6:54 PM

and I saw him play many games, along with Mike Giminski, Michael Jordan, Monte Towe, Phil Ford, Tree Rollins and a bunch of others from the era. As I remember, Thompson's vertical leap was 44", but it may have improved later. He certainly was also a good outside jump shooter.

The State team had very little discipline early in his career and they would always get out of the system and lose control on the fast break when they got behind in the score. It cost them a lot of games they would otherwise have won if they had played with more discipline.

David Thompson did appear to be the best in the league, but only because Dean Smith kept Michael Jordan playing within the system and rarely let him do what he was capable of doing.

Since first watching the two of them play head-to-head, I've always said that David Thompson was the best player I've ever seen in college basketball, but only because Jordan wasn't allowed to put on the show that Thompson was allowed to do. Jordan may have actually been a better player, even then.

Thompson never reached his full potential - drugs and women were too important to him...... a sad thing to watch.

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Re: I lived in Raleigh durirng the time David Thompson was NCSU


Oct 13, 2012, 10:08 AM

'The State team had very little discipline early in his career and they would always get out of the system and lose control on the fast break when they got behind in the score. It cost them a lot of games they would otherwise have won if they had played with more discipline.'

Really? Little discipline early in his career...cost them a lot of games... Dude, you have no credibility. Lets step back in time. As a frosh DT did not play, freshmen were not allowed. As a soph State was undefeated, not just conference games, for the season. As a Jr, State lost one game to power UCLA then went on to win the Natty. As a sr, State did lose a few games but without T Burleson who made a huge difference in the prior season. So to say they lost a lot of games early in his career is totally off base.

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As kids my brother and I would go to chapel hill, state and


Oct 13, 2012, 11:02 AM

Duke for basketball camps back to back each summer. He went to states camp while Thompson was there and saw one legend about him verified. Thompson grabbed a roll of quarters off the top of the backboard.

I am thirteen years younger so I saw a whole different generation of players. However at all the camps I went to only Valvano spent time with campers while k and smith gave a little pep talk here and there. Valvano came by my room periodically one year and single handedly wiped out a box of brownies my mother sent. When I came back the next year he asked if I had some of those brownies! What a great personality he was.

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Oct 13, 2012, 11:04 AM [ in reply to Re: I lived in Raleigh durirng the time David Thompson was NCSU ]

You're right - that wasn't accurate. Memory does play tricks on one over time. My impression is of State's team during the 70's - not so much the inability to control the fast break with David Thompson, but rather without him. Other than those 2 years, State lost plenty of games.

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