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South Carolina: 2 probations and 39% graduation rate. That
Dec 4, 2012, 9:06 PM
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is amazing. They must not even pretend to care if their football players graduate.
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And can you imagine sending your kid to live at the
Dec 4, 2012, 9:08 PM
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off-campus hotel and only a 39% chance of them graduating because they probably rarely see campus. Then they play in the only off-campus stadium in the ACC. Sure is a unique college experience.
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Re: And can you imagine sending your kid to live at the
Dec 4, 2012, 9:13 PM
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SEC football student/athletes only attend college for three yrs. It's in their scholarship papers.
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Re: South Carolina: 2 probations and 39% graduation rate. That
Dec 4, 2012, 9:17 PM
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I am probably going to catch h*** for this, but I really don't give a crap about the graduation rates for our players. I want to see a good product on the field on Saturdays. If a player takes advantage of his opportunity to get a degree and better himself more power to him. If not and he just wants to knock heads for 3 years more power to him.
This sounds like a sour grapes type of post for getting beat by those #### again
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That be the case let's end the hypocrisy of scholar
Dec 4, 2012, 9:20 PM
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athletics and lets just pay players to play. If there is a thing called a "scholar-ship" then graduation is important.
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39% > 20% 1 for 5 is 20% right***
Dec 4, 2012, 9:24 PM
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110%er [6851]
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My post is to the one immediately above mine. So I don't
Dec 4, 2012, 9:29 PM
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understand how your post applies to what I said.
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The NFL needs to get a minor league then, but I'm still
Dec 4, 2012, 9:25 PM
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going to watch Clemson because the show of college football is unbeatable. I like how baseball is attracting more kids despite the option to go pro right away. The recruiting games that go on there with kids going pro right out of high school or not can really level the playing field. Suddenly three star kids that really want to be in school and compete on the field are a hot commodity.
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That is really selfish...
Dec 4, 2012, 9:24 PM
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sounds like you only care about a player if he can play football and not what happens in his future. Would you want your soon to playfootball on the college level, not get to the NFL and not have a degree to fall back on? I sure hope that is not what you would want.
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Re: South Carolina: 2 probations and 39% graduation rate. That
Dec 4, 2012, 9:47 PM
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You are going to catch hell! I would give back any of my college degrees in order to sign a contract for a few million dollars. It's one thing to drop out and go dig a ditch, but to make hundreds of thousands of dollars or millions of dollars without a degree is o.k.
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I haven't met any s.carolina fans that care about this stuff
Dec 4, 2012, 9:31 PM
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I'm sure there must be some, but I don't know any. I'm not saying it's all that matters, it's not, but it's pretty important, isn't it?
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losers talk about graduation rates and how good our kids are
Dec 4, 2012, 9:37 PM
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why can't you do both win and graduate players ...alums and fans both happy..
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Re: Quit making us look like idiots - That grad % is wrong.
Dec 4, 2012, 9:47 PM
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Isn't it funny that a university submits an mathematical error though. The error itself show utter stupidity!
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Re: And can you imagine sending your kid to live at the
Dec 4, 2012, 9:51 PM
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Clemson81to85, the link you posted was posted on that website in 2011, when Hyman was still their AD...
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Re: South Carolina: Human traffickers
Dec 4, 2012, 11:13 PM
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Take a guess how many players went missing from the SCaR scholarship roster before 4 years of eligibility were completed (from 7/08 to present)?
10 to 20 would not be surprising. 30 to 40 would raise some eyebrows. 50 would be shocking! Well according to one their own web sites....64 players since 7/22/08 have prematurely exited the SCaR roster.
And that does not include 17 commits that did not qualify in that same period.
My point is, as much as I hate losing to the #####, my opinion is that they are winning on the backs of the used and abused recruits they con into trusting the OBC. Then to add insult to injury the few players that do stay can only hope for a 50/50 chance of even graduating.
So it may take awhile before the pendulum swings back our way, but when it does, not only will the football victory be sweet but we can hold our heads high knowing that the majority of our players will also be victorious in life.
For those that doubt the data: 08/26/12 - Removed Sheldon Royster, transferring 08/10/12 - Removed Cadarious Sanders, transferring 08/07/12 - Removed Tanner McEvoy, transferring 07/17/12 - Removed Edward Muldrow, transferring 06/30/12 - Removed Joe Harris, did not qualify 06/22/12 - Removed Kenny Davis, removed from scholarship 06/15/12 - Removed Corey Simmons, transferring 05/22/12 - Removed Lamar Scruggs, transferred 04/13/12 - Removed Matt Coffee, medical 03/07/12 - Removed Angelo Watley, dismissed 12/15/11 - Removed Martay Mattox, transferring 12/15/11 - Removed Corey Addison, transferring 12/15/11 - Removed Eric Baker, early graduate 10/11/11 - Removed Stephen Garcia, dismissed 07/25/11 - Removed Ryan Broadhead 07/22/11 - Removed Mike Triglia 07/15/11 - Removed Alonzo Winfield 07/12/11 - Removed Bryce Sherman, removed from scholarship 02/07/11 - Removed Tramell Williams, transferring 02/02/11 - Removed Jordan Montgomery, will not sign 02/02/11 - Removed Lorenzo Mauldin, will not sign 01/24/11 - Removed DeMario Bennett, transferred 01/24/11 - Removed Brandan Davis, early graduate 01/24/11 - Removed Cedrick Snead, early graduate 09/22/10 - Removed Jarvis Giles, quit team 09/15/10 - Removed Weslye Saunders, dismissed 08/31/10 - Removed Quintin Richardson, transferred 08/05/10 - Removed Stephen Flint, quit team 07/30/10 - Removed Jay Spearman, medical 07/28/10 - Removed Ronald Byrd, transferring 07/28/10 - Removed Zac Brindise, transferring 07/21/10 - Removed Nick Allison, quit team 07/10/10 - Removed Jarrett Burns, transfer 03/31/10 - Removed Addison Williams, medical 03/31/10 - Aramis Hillary, transferred 01/22/10 - Removed Matt Clements, quit team 01/22/10 - Removed Reid McCollum, quit team 01/12/10 - Removed early graduate (Kevin Young) 01/12/10 - Removed early graduate (Seaver Brown) 01/12/10 - Removed early graduate (Pierre Andrews) 10/15/09 - Removed Heath Batchelor, left team 10/12/09 - Removed Darantzy Brunson, left team 08/21/09 - Removed Joe Hills, transferred 08/18/09 - Removed Leon Mackey, clearinghouse 08/09/09 - Removed Matt Coffee, greyshirting 08/09/09 - Removed Ben Axon, not admitted 07/31/09 - Removed Chris Payne, did not qualify 02/28/09 - Removed Nick Prochak, medical hardship 01/09/09 - Removed Jonathan Davis, offer withdrawn 01/09/09 - Removed Chris Smelley, transferring 12/17/08 - Removed Jamire Williams, left team 12/12/08 - Removed Chris Hail, dismissed 12/12/08 - Removed Donte'e Nicholls, dismissed 11/12/08 - Removed Mark Barnes, transferring 11/08/08 - Removed early graduate (Gerrod Sinclair) 11/08/08 - Removed early graduate (Tommy Beecher) 11/08/08 - Removed early graduate (Freddie Brown) 11/08/08 - Removed early graduate (Taylor Rank) 10/25/08 - Removed Clark Gaston, quit team 08/31/08 - Removed Ryan Doerr, quit team 07/29/08 - Removed Damien Wright, transferred 07/22/08 - Removed Vandaral Shackleford, transferred 07/22/08 - Removed Gurminder Thind, medical hardship 07/22/08 - Removed Kenrick Ellis, transferred
05/28/12 - Removed Carlos Hood, did not qualify 05/28/12 - Removed Jhaustin Thomas, did not qualify 07/05/11 - Removed Jerell Adams, did not qualify 07/05/11 - Removed Quincy McKinney, did not qualify 07/05/11 - Removed Ronnie Martin, did not qualify 07/15/10 - Removed Brison Williams, did not qualify 07/15/10 - Removed Du'Von Millsap, did not qualify 07/15/10 - Removed Javon Bell, did not qualify 07/15/10 - Removed Kelcy Quarles, did not qualify 07/15/10 - Removed Brandon Golson, did not qualify 02/03/10 - Removed Chris Payne, will not qualify 12/10/08 - Removed Charles Holmes, will not qualify 12/10/08 - Removed Duane Chisolm, will not qualify 08/24/08 - Removed Darrell Simmons, did not qualify 07/31/08 - Removed Elliot Williams, did not qualify 07/23/08 - Removed Chaz Sutton, did not qualify 07/23/08 - Removed Ronald Byrd, did not qualify
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