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According to the rules... it WAS NOT a foul
Feb 11, 2015, 4:51 PM
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Section 1. Personal Fouls
Art. 1. A player shall not hold, displace, push, charge, trip or impede the progress of an opponent by extending arm(s), shoulder(s), hip(s) or knee(s) or by bending his own body into other than a normal position or by using any unreasonably rough tactics.
Art. 2. A player shall not contact an opponent with his hand unless such contact is only with the opponent’s hand while it is on the ball and is incidental to an attempt to play the ball.
Art. 3. A player shall not use his hand(s) on an opponent to inhibit the freedom of movement of the opponent in any way.
Art. 4. The following acts constitute a foul when committed against a player with the ball: a. Keeping a hand or forearm on an opponent; b. Putting two hands on an opponent. c. Continually jabbing an opponent by extending an arm(s) and placing a hand or forearm on the opponent; d. Using an arm bar to impede the progress of a dribbler.
Art. 5. A player shall not extend the arm(s) fully or partially other than vertically so that freedom of movement of an opponent is hindered when contact with the arm(s) occurs.
Art. 6. A player shall not use the forearm and/or hand to prevent an opponent from attacking the ball during a dribble or when trying for goal.
Art. 7. A player may hold his hand(s) and arm(s) in front of his own face or body for protection and to absorb force from an imminent charge by an opponent.
Art. 8. Contact caused by a defensive player approaching a player with the ball from behind is pushing; contact caused by the momentum of a player who has tried for goal is charging.
Art. 9. A dribbler shall neither charge into nor contact an opponent in the dribbler’s path nor attempt to dribble between two opponents or between an opponent and a boundary, unless the space is sufficient to provide a reasonable chance for the dribbler to pass through without contact.
Art. 10. When a dribbler passes an opponent sufficiently to have his head and shoulders beyond the front of the opponent’s torso, the greater responsibility for subsequent contact shall be that of the opponent.
Art. 11. When a dribbler has obtained a straight-line path, the dribbler may not be bumped, pushed or otherwise crowded out of that path. When an opponent is able to legally obtain a guarding position in that path, the dribbler shall avoid contact by changing direction or ending the dribble.
Art. 12. The player intending to become the dribbler shall not be permitted additional rights to start a dribble or to execute a jump try for goal, pivot or fake.
Art. 13. A secondary defender as defined in Rule 4-35 cannot establish initial legal guarding position in the restricted area for the purpose of drawing a player control foul/charge when defending a player who is in control of the ball (i.e., dribbling or shooting) or who has released the ball for a pass or try. When illegal contact occurs within this Restricted Area, such contact shall be called a blocking foul, unless the contact is a flagrant foul. a. When illegal contact occurs by the offensive player leading with a foot or unnatural, extended knee, or warding off with the arm, such contact shall be called a player-control foul. b. When a player in control of the ball stops continuous movement toward the basket and then initiates illegal contact with a secondary defender in the restricted area, this is a player control foul.
Art. 14. Illegal contact caused by the swinging of the elbow(s) that: a. Results from total body movement is a common or flagrant 1 personal foul b. Is excessive per Rule 4-18.7 is a flagrant 2 foul. c. Occurs above or below the shoulders of an opponent is a common, flagrant 1 or flagrant 2 personal foul.
Art. 15. Illegal (not incidental) contact with an elbow that does not involve the swinging of the elbow shall be considered a foul.
Art. 16. A player shall adhere to the rules pertaining to illegal contact, including but not limited to, guarding as in Rule 4-17, rebounding as in Rule 4-29, screening as in Rule 4-34 and verticality as in Rule 4-38.
Art. 17. A player shall not contact an opponent in a flagrant, excessive, severe or extreme manner while the ball is live (includes fighting).
Art. 18. All of the above is null and void when the Clemson Tigers are playing. Fouls will be called at the discretion, or lack thereof, of the officials.
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Wellllllll...that clears it up!***
Feb 11, 2015, 5:04 PM
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Re: According to the rules... it WAS NOT a foul
Feb 11, 2015, 5:06 PM
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Yep, we were all wrong but rules are rules.
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CU Guru [1571]
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you left Ar). 19 off of the list It is as follows:
Feb 11, 2015, 5:11 PM
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All above rules are null and void if Norte Dame is playing Clemson, or any team that is playing Clemson.
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Nope,
Feb 11, 2015, 5:19 PM
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Article 18, Item a - This is, likewise, applicable to Clemson football, Clemson baseball, Clemson rowing, Clemson curling, Clemson golf, Clemson softball (future addition), Clemson tailgating activities, and Clemson non-competitive athletic event watching.
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obviously he's not reading the rules***
Feb 11, 2015, 5:19 PM
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Literally.***
Feb 11, 2015, 5:20 PM
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or rather
Feb 11, 2015, 5:24 PM
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illiterately
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And Article 18 Shall Only Be Referenced
Feb 11, 2015, 8:17 PM
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Or complained about on a Clemson sports message board.
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Sorry got bored with the post after ART 1) should
Feb 11, 2015, 5:26 PM
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have inserted ART 18) as ART)2 and I would have not missed it.
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from the looks of your post
Feb 11, 2015, 7:47 PM
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you didnt miss it
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Re: According to the rules... it WAS NOT a foul
Feb 11, 2015, 5:32 PM
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Obviously by the rules and otherwise it was a foul.
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What are these "rules" of which you speak, and why
Feb 11, 2015, 5:46 PM
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haven't referees been informed of them?
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Re: What are these "rules" of which you speak, and why
Feb 11, 2015, 7:01 PM
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Can't ask Doug Rhoads--he's retired....
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BTW, the replay ofishul in the boof
Feb 11, 2015, 7:03 PM
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is still reviewing the play to see if it were really clipping on ND....
963 commercials later we're still waiting....
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Re: According to the rules... it WAS NOT a foul
Feb 11, 2015, 8:48 PM
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and clemson is going to the big 12, correct
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Re: According to the rules... it WAS NOT a foul
Feb 11, 2015, 7:52 PM
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Thinking Art. # 18 cleared it up for us. There is absolutely no way that Rod Hall was not impeded in his movement by the ND player's hand. Stop the video and look at it.
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Re: According to the rules... it WAS NOT a foul
Feb 12, 2015, 1:43 AM
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Art. 18. All of the above is null and void when the Clemson Tigers are playing. Fouls will be called at the discretion, or lack thereof, of the officials. a. If a foul is deemed to have been committed, it will be called against Landry Nnoko, or the next tallest player from Clemson on the floor at the time. (Replaces 18.a. from 2006-2010, see Trevor Booker rule).
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