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Why do liberals now want to censor debate?
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Why do liberals now want to censor debate?

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Sep 12, 2025, 10:32 PM
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Until recently, liberals encouraged open and heated debate. False information was exposed by debate and presentation of facts. Now liberals seek to censor, silence, and shut down opposing views.
Why the change?

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Re: Why do liberals now want to censor debate?

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Sep 12, 2025, 10:38 PM
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Liberals are intolerant of what they see as hate speech that they see as not worth debate. They see it as having a. Debate with Hitler about whether the Jews should be gassed. They see certain things as not worth debate.

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Re: Why do liberals now want to censor debate?


Sep 12, 2025, 10:46 PM
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Not worth debate or incapable of defending?

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Sep 12, 2025, 10:50 PM
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Not really . It is below debate is how they would view it. Like I said, debating Hitler on why we shouldn't exterminate millions of Jews is not something to debate. Thats how extreme.libs view so many issues.

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Re: Why do liberals now want to censor debate?

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Sep 12, 2025, 10:54 PM
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I think Charlie Kirk is an example of someone they couldn't effectively debate so the censored him.

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Re: Why do liberals now want to censor debate?

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Sep 12, 2025, 11:20 PM
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They? Seek help if you think it is that deep. It is.some.22.year old.

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Re: Why do liberals now want to censor debate?


Sep 13, 2025, 12:48 AM [ in reply to Re: Why do liberals now want to censor debate? ]
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It’s surprising to me that you really think a lot of people who weren’t in the cult actually know who he was. I had no idea until he was murdered this week. I MAY have heard his name in the last year but I’m not sure. I have since watched some videos and I have to say I would be offended by some of the racist stuff he said if it pertained to me.

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Re: Why do liberals now want to censor debate?


Sep 13, 2025, 6:51 AM
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He was very popular amongst young people

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Re: Why do liberals now want to censor debate?


Sep 13, 2025, 7:27 AM [ in reply to Re: Why do liberals now want to censor debate? ]
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A lot of people knew who he was. He drew huge crowd every campus he went to.
He is just an example. I am about as right wing as they come, but I have absolutely zero desire to censor voices that oppose me.

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Re: Why do liberals now want to censor debate?


Sep 13, 2025, 1:47 PM [ in reply to Re: Why do liberals now want to censor debate? ]
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People on the left showed up to prostest.at every public event he had so just because you don't know who he was doesn't mean a lot of other people didn't

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Couldn't effectively debate him?


Sep 13, 2025, 8:23 AM [ in reply to Re: Why do liberals now want to censor debate? ]
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https://youtu.be/rQqMcWuUDeg

He was routine and easily beaten in debates. The problem is him being wrong didn't matter to his supporters.

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Re: Couldn't effectively debate him?


Sep 13, 2025, 9:00 AM
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Why the need to silence him then?

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Who silenced him?***


Sep 13, 2025, 9:22 AM
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Re: Who silenced him?***


Sep 13, 2025, 9:39 AM
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Shooter

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Re: Who silenced him?***


Sep 13, 2025, 10:09 AM
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Because the shooter was mentally ill. He felt Charlie was spreading hate etc etc, so as the mentally ill person he was, the shooter decided murder was a better solution. It's pretty straightforward .

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The kid raised in a MAGA household?

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Sep 13, 2025, 1:10 PM [ in reply to Re: Who silenced him?*** ]
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I mean you’re acting like the Democrats silenced him.

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Re: The kid raised in a MAGA household?


Sep 13, 2025, 1:11 PM
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raised in a MAGA household-went to college and became a hater

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Re: The kid raised in a MAGA household?


Sep 13, 2025, 1:38 PM
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I don’t think he was old enough to be raised in a MAGA household. He 9 years old?

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You think one semester before he dropped out


Sep 13, 2025, 3:47 PM [ in reply to Re: The kid raised in a MAGA household? ]
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completely changed him?

Or his toxic 18 years of being raised in a MAGA household is the bigger indicator of his character.

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Re: You think one semester before he dropped out


Sep 13, 2025, 6:35 PM
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How long MAGA been around?

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Since Reagan***


Sep 13, 2025, 8:13 PM
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Re: The kid raised in a MAGA household?


Sep 13, 2025, 1:37 PM [ in reply to The kid raised in a MAGA household? ]
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How many Democrats celebrated it?

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Re: Who silenced him?***


Sep 13, 2025, 1:39 PM [ in reply to Who silenced him?*** ]
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who silenced him? One of your "ANTI-fascists' pals

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Re: Couldn't effectively debate him?


Sep 13, 2025, 1:40 PM [ in reply to Couldn't effectively debate him? ]
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So the fact a human fetus and a Dolphin fetus look the same changes fact that a human fetus is a human? What does fetus mean in Latin?

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Somebody needs to hold his hand and tell him.***


Sep 13, 2025, 9:12 AM [ in reply to Re: Why do liberals now want to censor debate? ]
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The libs of Tnet also changed fascist to something far right

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Sep 12, 2025, 10:41 PM
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nutjobs call less far right nutjobs. And none of them have called a conservative a fascist, ever…all of a sudden.

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This is just "The Fairness Doctrine" debate

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Sep 13, 2025, 7:57 AM
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Is it more harmful or helpful to platform extreme views? Do you need to give a flat earther equal time? One side will say it's important to dismantle their arguments, the other says it gives those idiots a sense of legitmacy and we shouldn't give them the time of day.

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Re: This is just "The Fairness Doctrine" debate


Sep 13, 2025, 9:02 AM
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What did Charlie actually say that was "nut job"?

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Honestly, because Republicans have shown they can't decipher false information


Sep 13, 2025, 8:06 AM
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so facts and logical debate don't work anymore.

The first amendment is an amazing ideal, but Republicans have spent the last 40 years arguing against education and facts. It turns out the First Amendment doesn't work in a society where the most educated are the least trusted.

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Re: Honestly, because Republicans have shown they can't decipher false information


Sep 13, 2025, 9:05 AM
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Seems to me that the Dems argue against facts as well. ##### equals man is a fact. Men can't birth babies is a fact. Climate change is a fact but it's cause is debatable.

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You've, unkowingly, just made his point

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Sep 13, 2025, 9:16 AM
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(and to be clear, I don't agree with him on everything, nor entirely on the issue of the value of debate between the left and right)

But, your jab at gender and biological sex entirely misses the immense amount of research and studies that have been done into how those two terms actually differ. And though the subject is far from new, you've taken a reductionist view that the difference has been invented recently because YOU hadn't been exposed to the difference.

That plays directly into the point he was making on education and the willingness to examine personal views within the context of new information.

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Re: You've, unkowingly, just made his point


Sep 13, 2025, 9:43 AM
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I have been exposed to the differences. It takes a male and a female to have a kid. No matter what you call them, a male and a female are necessary to have a baby. You can take two people with a ###### and no matter what you call them, or how many different ways they try, neither one is getting pregnant.

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Biologically, absoultely

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Sep 13, 2025, 9:52 AM
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But again, look at the vast research done on the study of gender and you'll find it is a social construct that has differed from biological sex. And yet, you continue to conflate the two.

So, when you say something like "only women can give birth", any discussion/debate of that point would require a distinction of whether you are using the term "woman" in a biological or gender context. And that nuance, though backed by the research done into the areas where the two differ, will be mocked by many. Even though years of studying have been put into understanding individuals for who the two do not align, and even though that research has, time and again, shown that the best path forward for those individuals' mental health is having their external presentation match their internal perceived gender, folks who are unable or unwilling to take in and understand that new information will continue to belittle and mock.

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Re: Biologically, absoultely

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Sep 13, 2025, 10:15 AM
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You are what your DNA says you are. I can wish I was a dog. I can want to be a dog. My DNA says I am a Male of Cherokee, Creek, Catawba, and Irish descent.
I can Identify as a Seminole. I can want to be a Seminole. I can think I am a Seminole. I still won't be a Seminole.

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Re: Biologically, absoultely


Sep 13, 2025, 10:18 AM
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I agree, but outside of sports and bathrooms and practical things like that, why did Charlie care so much to go after them as human beings?

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Re: Biologically, absoultely


Sep 13, 2025, 10:22 AM
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Charlie didn't attack them as human beings. He attacked their attempt to force other people to affirm their delusion.

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Re: Biologically, absoultely


Sep 13, 2025, 10:24 AM
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In the minds of those trans people.thatbis being attacked and Charlie was the delusional. The truth is, he was delusional.

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Sep 13, 2025, 10:30 AM
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Charlie did not attack trans people. He attacked their attempt to make him accept their delusion. I don't care what you think you are. Don't expect me to call Steve Sheila.

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Sep 13, 2025, 10:33 AM
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Yes, but in their.minds he isntryjng to.make them accept his delusion. The truth is, in all reality, he is probablynthe delusional one.

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Re: Biologically, absoultely


Sep 13, 2025, 12:40 PM
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So you are saying human history prior to the advent of the 21st century was delusional? It’s just recently that humans became confused about sexuality. Homosexuality has existed for a very long time, but until recently, the homosexuals understood what sex they were.

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Sep 13, 2025, 1:37 PM
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It is recently that humans came "confused". It is the same as it has always been. Youre confused.

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Sep 13, 2025, 1:56 PM
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It is not recently is what that should say. It is the same as it has always been.

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Re: Biologically, absoultely

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Sep 13, 2025, 1:56 PM [ in reply to Re: Biologically, absoultely ]
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So when a delusional person demands society affirm their delusion under penalty of law for not doing so and someone protests that makes the person objecting the delusional one? Oh please. Trans people have been around forever and nobody cared. It was only when they demanded we all pretend they are the opposite sex or the left decided to try to indoctrinate kids into believing they were trans as well that people got tired of their BS. Similarly nobody cared if Bob thought he was a woman and ran in a race with the men. Only when Bob demanded to be allowed to compete with women did Bob's mental issues infringe on the rights of others. Pretending CK hated trans people because he took exception to the issues noted above is making you look clueless about what youre talking about. May wanna stop listening to what the lying kook wing of the board is telling you about him and go watch/listen for yourself.

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Sep 13, 2025, 2:38 PM [ in reply to Re: Biologically, absoultely ]
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Until recently, transgenderism was considered mental illness. Now everyone has become confused.

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Re: Biologically, absoultely


Sep 13, 2025, 2:41 PM
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Yes you are confused. They have always been here and it is natural. It is not normal, but it is natural. It is who they are.

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Re: Biologically, absoultely


Sep 13, 2025, 3:20 PM
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Natural but not normal? I can agree with that.

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Sep 13, 2025, 3:50 PM
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Normal is the majority. They are not the norm of the majority. They are natural though and just different. Kind of like a white person in Japan.

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Re: Biologically, absoultely


Sep 13, 2025, 6:34 PM
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More like a person born with a mental defect.

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Re: Biologically, absoultely


Sep 13, 2025, 6:39 PM
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Youre talking about yourself who believes in that imaginary man in the sky telling you that it is wrong? That is way more wacko.

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Re: Biologically, absoultely


Sep 13, 2025, 7:55 PM
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God condemning it is one reason I believe as I believe. The other reason is the laws of procreation dictate my position as the only logical belief.

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Re: Biologically, absoultely


Sep 13, 2025, 8:10 PM
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Exactly. Thats why you are definitely more delusional. Kind of like those Muslims thinking they are getting virgins. You are actually the delusional one. The trans are just part of nature.

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Re: Biologically, absoultely


Sep 13, 2025, 8:52 PM
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Two biological men banging will never make a kid. Anyone thinking otherwise is delusional.

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Re: Biologically, absoultely


Sep 13, 2025, 8:54 PM
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They dont need ro make a kid. That is irrelevant. They are other way animals as well. It is part of nature. No matter what you think your imaginary friend in the sky believes.

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Re: Biologically, absoultely


Sep 13, 2025, 9:00 PM
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Regardless of what my friend believes, Adam and Steve is stupid.
Doesn’t take a rocket scientist to figure out how parts between legs fit and don’t fit.

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Sep 13, 2025, 9:12 PM
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It doesnt, but it take someone really delusional to think it matters either way. It is how they are born. It doesn't matter what your man made religion tells you. These Trans people come that way and are part of nature. Maybe it some sort of defect? Who knows? It is part of nature though.

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Sep 13, 2025, 10:27 PM
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Psychosis is part of nature and psychopaths are born that way. I fail to see your point as valid.

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What's really wild is that if Trump came out and suddenly supported


Sep 13, 2025, 8:15 PM [ in reply to Re: Biologically, absoultely ]
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transgender kids, you would be all for them.

That's the problem, none of your beliefs are actually sincere.

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Sep 13, 2025, 8:49 PM
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I disagree with Trump on quite a bit.
Rand Paul and Ron Paul are much more my speed.

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So you are still unwilling/unable to note the distinction

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Sep 13, 2025, 10:26 AM [ in reply to Re: Biologically, absoultely ]
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Biological sex and gender are not the same thing. Your DNA does not determine your gender identity, the two correlate for the majority of individuals, but they do not align perfectly.

So we've seen why a discussion of this sort can be fruitless.

Again, you are unwilling or unable to understand the distinction between gender and biological sex even though the research by experts has shown it time and again.

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Re: So you are still unwilling/unable to note the distinction


Sep 13, 2025, 10:37 AM
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DNA determines your sex. It is really pointless what you identify as because your parts at birth determine your child bearing ability.

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You and Catahoula give these Republican guys far too much credit


Sep 13, 2025, 4:14 PM [ in reply to So you are still unwilling/unable to note the distinction ]
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what he's posting isn't some fringe position. It's literally the predominant position of Republicans.

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Ask King Bammy***


Sep 13, 2025, 9:47 AM
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Painting with quite the broad brush.


Sep 13, 2025, 10:40 AM
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This guy was not affiliated with either party and had not ever voted.

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Re: Painting with quite the broad brush.


Sep 13, 2025, 10:25 PM
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But he was queer and in a relationship with a transvestite.
Definitely not your typical Republican.

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Suicidal empathy***


Sep 13, 2025, 9:29 PM
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And how did you feel after the political assassintion of Melissa Hortman?****


Sep 14, 2025, 12:23 PM
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