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So apparently the door to the BIG is closed for Clemson
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So apparently the door to the BIG is closed for Clemson


Nov 22, 2023, 8:55 PM
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Per social media geniuses it’s now a packaged deal of FSU/UNC. So does that mean we are SEC bound or stuck in ACC purgatory forever?!?!?

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Re: So apparently the door to the BIG is closed for Clemson


Nov 22, 2023, 8:58 PM
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Why UNC over Clemson? Don't they want the Clemson national brand and state of SC?

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Nov 22, 2023, 11:11 PM
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UNC has AAU membership. But, I don't think anything we hear outside of official announcements can be taken for anything more than speculation.

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Re: So apparently the door to the BIG is closed for Clemson

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Nov 23, 2023, 7:45 PM [ in reply to Re: So apparently the door to the BIG is closed for Clemson ]
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Sssshhhhh! No Big for me. Makes not sense. Let UNC fall on that grenade.

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If that were to happen and we dont get in the SEC

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Nov 22, 2023, 9:03 PM
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Neff would be an absolute failure. And based on his comments yesterday, I believe they have something.

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Re: If that were to happen and we dont get in the SEC


Nov 22, 2023, 9:05 PM
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Yeah, always thought FSU and Clemson were the package deal to keep the rivalry in the same conference? I guess this is what tweet this came from...

https://x.com/Genetics56/status/1727384320644465057?s=20

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Nov 22, 2023, 9:07 PM
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Yep and his follow up tweet was the one talking about it’s FSU/UNC pretty much a done deal 🤷‍♂️🤷‍♂️

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Re: If that were to happen and we dont get in the SEC


Nov 22, 2023, 9:09 PM [ in reply to Re: If that were to happen and we dont get in the SEC ]
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The way Hood and others have reported it I thought we were a packaged deal with FSU as well. Just gotta wait to see what happens that same person has tweeted it’s Clemson/FSU many many times.

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Re: If that were to happen and we dont get in the SEC

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Nov 22, 2023, 9:10 PM [ in reply to Re: If that were to happen and we dont get in the SEC ]
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They want the North Carolina TV market. Plus UNC is probably a bigger national brand. You can’t think of football success as the determining factor. It means little.

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^^^^^^^^^^^^

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Nov 22, 2023, 9:16 PM
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As much as we hate to admit it UNC is in a stronger position. They are a national brand. They also have a LOT of money and access to even more money. Ever heard of Air Jordan? Other than not doing football in long time, they have a lot of success in a lot of other sports. Second biggest sport - Basketball and a bunch of others

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Re: ^^^^^^^^^^^^

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Nov 23, 2023, 8:43 AM
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Horrible analysis.

You mention success in other sports. Those sports don’t make money.

A potential move by UNC to big ten is not based on how much money UNC has (air Jordan) or how much second tier sports generate. It’s based on how much revenue football can generate. Period.

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The only sports that matter are football and mens basketball


Nov 23, 2023, 8:50 PM
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And Men’s Basketball is a distant afterthought. Other sports are irrelevant.

There is a reason Stanford…perennial winner of the Director’s Cup, one of the finest academic institutions in the world and in the heart of Silicon Valley…was not selected by the Big Ten.

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Football is king. TV is driven by marketability not location***


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Nov 22, 2023, 11:35 PM [ in reply to Re: If that were to happen and we dont get in the SEC ]
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Really? Football is the driving force behind all of the realignment. It pays the bills for the many non-revenue sports and is second only to the NFL in TV and streaming ratings.

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Nov 22, 2023, 10:12 PM [ in reply to Re: If that were to happen and we dont get in the SEC ]
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FSU is not an AAU university.

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Nov 22, 2023, 10:21 PM
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Neither is Nebraska. Oregon is but not sure how they are AAU or how much longer they'll be in it. Oregon doesn't have medical school and unbelievably don't even have a college of engineering.

AAU is a crock anyways.

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Nebraska was when they joined the B1G.***

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Nov 22, 2023, 11:10 PM
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Re: If that were to happen and we dont get in the SEC


Nov 23, 2023, 4:10 PM [ in reply to Re: If that were to happen and we dont get in the SEC ]
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Lived in Eugene for about 4 years nack in the 90's. Don't know if they are still "big" on it or not but a good friend of mine talked about their physics and genetics program. Granted, we were in 6th grade and he also wanted to be the first person to create a real-life Mr. Data (Star Trek, for you non-nerds)

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Nov 22, 2023, 11:16 PM [ in reply to Re: If that were to happen and we dont get in the SEC ]
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The poster sounds as though he is on the same level as Swaim.

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Re: So apparently the door to the BIG is closed for Clemson


Nov 22, 2023, 9:08 PM
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Probably because of academic requirements

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Re: So apparently the door to the BIG is closed for Clemson


Nov 25, 2023, 11:05 AM
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What requirements? Admission? Test Scores? 4 year Graduation? Clemson is well ahead of Iowa, Michigan State and Nebraska.

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Re: Keep Your Friends Close And Your Enemies Closer ---


Nov 22, 2023, 9:09 PM
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We don't have any friends in the SEC. So guess where it makes the most sense to go. 🤔🤔🤨🤨🤨🤨

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Re: Keep Your Friends Close And Your Enemies Closer ---


Nov 22, 2023, 9:10 PM
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Apparently we aren’t going anywhere 😂😂

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Re: So apparently the door to the BIG is closed for Clemson

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Nov 22, 2023, 9:52 PM
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I think this might actually help Clemson with the SEC because they will most likely want to counter what the Big 10 has done. I'm also wondering if we already told the Big 10 we were going to the SEC so they moved on to UNC to package with FSU.

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No and no***

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Nov 22, 2023, 9:54 PM
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Nov 22, 2023, 10:01 PM
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I agree. No SEC I hope. Don't want to be a part of that.

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Re: No and no***

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Nov 23, 2023, 12:17 PM
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Whether you like it or not, I don't think hanging out in the ACC is an option the administration wants to consider any longer than they have to. Change is coming and if the Big 10 door is really closed, the SEC would be the only other option that makes financial sense.

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I agree. This article out of Tallahassee mentions that

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Nov 22, 2023, 10:02 PM [ in reply to Re: So apparently the door to the BIG is closed for Clemson ]
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“…Clemson’s preferred destination would be the SEC rather than the Big Ten. There has been some pushback in SEC circles thanks to Greg Sankey’s remarks regarding the league being happy at 16 members at the SEC’s Media Days. As the Big Ten proved with their gutting of the PAC-12, leagues are going to deny anything regarding expansion until the moment invites are extended.”

https://www.tomahawknation.com/2023/10/3/23895392/expansion-contract-grant-rights-fsu-clemson-north-carolina-acc-conference-realignment-sec-big-ten

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Re: So apparently the door to the BIG is closed for Clemson

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Nov 22, 2023, 10:01 PM
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We aren't helping our case to go anywhere with four losses and not even ranked. The decline we have been on last few years HAS to be reversed.

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Nov 22, 2023, 10:19 PM
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Lmfao it’s so much more then our record this year, just look at our ratings

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Re: So apparently the door to the BIG is closed for Clemson

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Nov 22, 2023, 10:58 PM [ in reply to Re: So apparently the door to the BIG is closed for Clemson ]
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I doubt 1 year where we still could finish 9 - 4 would keep Clemson for the SEC or the Big 10. As another poster stated Clemson has more value than just wins and losses. We have some of if not the greatest fans in college football.

The fact that so much new construction is going on around the University could be a hint that we are moving to a new conference. And the student body has consistently increased. This year Clemson received the most application ever. I believe it’s approximately around 28,000 plus new applicants this year.

I posted about 4 or 5 years ago that college football was headed to 2 to 3 super conferences. Those schools left out of the super conferences would fall into smaller FBS conferences. Then there will be the all the smaller schools who make up at FCS schools.

I believe that in 3 to 5 years, Clemson’s DV will increase to over 90 plus thousand seats.

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Nov 22, 2023, 11:20 PM
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There were 60,000 applicants last year. I was just talking to an admissions employee last week.

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We arent ranked??***


Nov 23, 2023, 8:32 AM [ in reply to Re: So apparently the door to the BIG is closed for Clemson ]
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My gosh man, thats so basic and flawed***


Nov 23, 2023, 12:23 PM [ in reply to Re: So apparently the door to the BIG is closed for Clemson ]
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If that happens and we get stuck in the ACC

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Nov 22, 2023, 10:13 PM
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Our athletics are screwed

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Re: So apparently the door to the BIG is closed for Clemson


Nov 22, 2023, 10:15 PM
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May have to go helmet in hand to the Big 12.

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I have heard nothing to that effect on any...

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Nov 22, 2023, 10:18 PM
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....FSU social media sites I frequent.

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So much for buddies..

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Nov 22, 2023, 10:22 PM
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The lesson here is that Clemson should have forged its own path. Trying to pair up with FSU was obviously a mistake. Friends don’t exist in high stakes athletics.

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Re: So apparently the door to the BIG is closed for Clemson

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Nov 22, 2023, 10:28 PM
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Of all the ACC schools, Clemson is the top get for any conference. I'm not saying the B1G wants Clemson but outside of Ohio State and I guess Michigan, who wants to watch a B1G game? Northwestern vs Rutgers? Indiana vs. Illinois? Kudo's to them for hoodwinking networks for the big money but its quickly becoming a rusty old conference. They'd be smart to add Clemson.

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This is incorrect.***


Nov 22, 2023, 10:42 PM
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How are people still eating up these stories?

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Nov 22, 2023, 10:46 PM
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I say just ignore them until anything is official at this point

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Re: How are people still eating up these stories?


Nov 22, 2023, 11:20 PM
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Exactly

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Re: So apparently the door to the BIG is closed for Clemson


Nov 22, 2023, 11:18 PM
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Weird things happening in CFB these days.

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Re: So apparently the door to the BIG is closed for Clemson

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Nov 23, 2023, 12:50 AM
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THANK GOD we’re NOT going to the strategically and regionally stupid Big Ten. Can’t even imagine going to all of those Northern hellholes.

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Versus Southern paradises like Starkville, Oxford, Tuscaloosa, Gainesville


Nov 23, 2023, 2:00 PM
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College Station, and Fayetteville?

LOL

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Re: Versus Southern paradises like Starkville, Oxford, Tuscaloosa, Gainesville

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Nov 23, 2023, 2:13 PM
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No kidding. Even Baton Rouge is a crap hole

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Say what you will about the ACC

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Nov 23, 2023, 3:34 PM [ in reply to Versus Southern paradises like Starkville, Oxford, Tuscaloosa, Gainesville ]
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But our away game City locations are pretty nice.

Boston, Pittsburgh, Louisville, Raleigh, Atlanta, Miami.

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I agree.***


Nov 23, 2023, 10:16 PM
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Oxford is a great town


Nov 23, 2023, 9:11 PM [ in reply to Versus Southern paradises like Starkville, Oxford, Tuscaloosa, Gainesville ]
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College Station, and Fayetteville?

LOL




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Right now, I'm more concerned, focused on our game with


Nov 23, 2023, 4:51 AM
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the Chickens.

All of the social media rumormongering is just that to me until official announcements are made, And as far as I'm concerned, traveling to Ohio, Michigan, Wisconsin, etc. in the late fall and early winter for ball games doesn't ring my bell.

Lastly, wait until Ohio State or Michigan fans get a taste of the wine and cheese crowd from UNC or travel to Chapel Hill to see a game in a stadium one third the size of Big Blue's. lol

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Re: So apparently the door to the BIG is closed for Clemson

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Nov 23, 2023, 6:55 AM
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BLAH BLAH BLAH
FAKE NEWS!! Probably the same people that said to “Stay by your computer” back in October.
And we know how that s turned out .


GO TIGERS BEAT THE CHICKENS!!!!

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Re: So apparently the door to the BIG is closed for Clemson


Nov 23, 2023, 7:34 AM
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Please take them - don't want anything to do with Pig10.

Maybe they were told that Clemson is going to the SEC. Period.

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Nov 23, 2023, 7:41 AM
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Why would we want the Big in the first place? All away games are difficult to get to. Only real rivalry is Ohio. I hate the SEC but just makes more sense to go there.

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ACC might not be so bad without the Tarheels


Nov 23, 2023, 7:44 AM
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I am going to continue to take a wait and see

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Nov 23, 2023, 7:54 AM
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Clemson has been playing the long game to get to the SEC. Adding softball and gymnastics were clues.

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The guy who posted this on X also said that Clemson


Nov 23, 2023, 10:15 AM
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Is in a good spot.

It sounds like Clemson has something else worked out...presumably the SEC.

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This is great news

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Nov 23, 2023, 2:23 PM
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without Florida state and UNC, we have much better chance of winning the conference.

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Re: This is great news


Nov 23, 2023, 3:04 PM
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Re: This is great news

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Nov 23, 2023, 3:46 PM
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He was talking about basketball.

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Re: So apparently the door to the BIG is closed for Clemson


Nov 23, 2023, 7:08 PM
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LOL, wow, I’m just dumbfounded by this, this is not happening at all. Hilarious.

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Re: So apparently the door to the BIG is closed for Clemson


Nov 23, 2023, 10:18 PM
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Hopefully we are going SEC or staying in my opinion!

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