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Commissioner [1215]
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NBA is losing its luster
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Jun 23, 2025, 1:37 AM
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Have seen others talking about the NBA finals game 7 tonight. I am/was a huge basketball fan growing up high school level pick up basketball college and NBA i was a basketball fanatic.
the bottom line is the game has lost its luster for the most part especially the NBA, i know others like me would watch the NBA finals no matter the teams playing, i hated both the 76rs and Lakers back when shaq and kobe won there first, but i watched everygame. same with big time college. but now days i take in the premium games of the NCAA tourney and thats about it.
didn't even feel like a game 7, no nervous energy like the old days. I do think a big part of the issue is how rich these guys are, theres no rivalries with anyone, these guys now days try to fake it for awhile but mainly just for extra attention. Greg Popovich one of the best coaches ever in the NBA said "there is no beauty in the game anymore" a few years ago and he is right.
Players like Shaq, David Robinson, Rodman, Bill Laimbeer, john stockton, magic johnson would have not near the influence in todays game because of how it is officiated and promoted ( positionless shoot 60 3's) the game has lost all personality and rivalry and like pop said beauty.
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CU Guru [1553]
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Jun 23, 2025, 4:24 AM
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Was very excited for the game tonight until Haliburton went down with that terrible injury. OKC was basically handed the game at that point.
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Associate AD [1055]
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Jun 23, 2025, 6:10 AM
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Yeah, easily the worst possible game 7 that could’ve happened
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National Champion [7867]
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Jun 23, 2025, 4:29 AM
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Have not watched an NBA game in years and do not plan to ever again. When we lived in Houston, we never missed a Rockets game and their players were the pillars of the community and looked up to by everyone. Those mid-90's teams with Clyde Drexler, Hakeem Olajuwan, Kenny Smith, Sam Cassell and Robert Horry were special. Not a bad citizen in the group and even crazy Charles Barkley joined them for one season, which livened up the locker room and the fan base.
After that time, I became disgusted with the woke political views and prima donnas in the NBA. Have no use for them in my life!
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Athletic Dir [1146]
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NBA HAS LOST its luster
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Jun 23, 2025, 12:12 PM
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Cant believe someone will pay $10B for a franchise
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Playmaker [370]
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Jun 23, 2025, 4:42 AM
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I understand nostalgia for what feels like a grittier, more intense era of basketball, I do, but you are overlooking some aspects of today’s game that are incredible and maybe blaming the idea that wealth has eliminated competitive fire…have you watched Giannis, who STILL plays with raw emotion despite his success, or the intensity of Tatum or Luka in crucial moments, not to mention Lebron Steph or how Halliburton played this entire playoffs!!!!
The game has evolved, not declined and the players are more skilled than ever, what’s wrong with the average player being able to handle the ball, shoot threes, and make plays that only point guards could make decades ago. Pace and athleticism are at historic highs and what might feel to you as less intensity might actually be players being smarter about when to expend energy in a wicked long season, plus playoffs that can stretch another 30ish, AND some of these dudes played in the Olympics also. How many games has lebron played in his career????
And rivals exist but look different like everything else in the social media age. Players are more connected off the court, but I do t believe it diminishes their desire to win, did you see Haliburtons face when he went down, like immediately? The Celtics/Heat battles, Warriors/Cavs era, and competitions between today’s stars remain compelling to me, hearing the trade news this morning psyched me up for next season before the game 7 tonight (which was plenty intense for me) The “beauty” Popovich referenced, in my mind, has shifted from pure physicality to chessmatch strategy and better skill displays. Watching Curry or Dame or Halliburton tonight on two shots in the first pull up from 35 feet or seeing teams execute complex offensive sets has its own “beauty.” Pop had a stroke but is still trying to be a part of the spurs franchise, game can’t be that bad.
I’m 50 and have realized with most things that what I remember as “better” isnt necessarily so, it’s just different, filtered through the warm IPA induced glow of my memory and my changing relationship with life as I age.
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110%er [3971]
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Jun 23, 2025, 6:00 AM
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I’m 35 and the games simply aren’t as entertaining. I’m not sure why. I think part of it is non stop jacking up 3s.
I feel the same way about the mlb. I used to watch every Braves game. Now I can make it a few innings.
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Hall of Famer [8119]
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Re: NBA is losing its luster
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Jun 23, 2025, 8:14 AM
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Im not sure why people want to argue that watching a game that looks eerily similar to a game you'd see at the local YMCA (although admittedly at a much higher level) is somehow superior or even close to previous eras. The teams cross half court, pass the ball around the perimeter a few times and jack up the first relatively open three they can. I can watch that crap on any local basketball court. No thanks.
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National Champion [7302]
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Re: NBA is losing its luster
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Jun 23, 2025, 7:49 PM
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Williams and SGA make almost every point they score in the paint. How is that passing the ball around and jacking up 3s?
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Standout [248]
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Jun 24, 2025, 9:05 AM
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"what’s wrong with the average player being able to handle the ball"
The handling IS what's wrong. It's horrendous. If the refs called palming violations like they're supposed to, there would be 150 turnovers every game. Nearly every highlight I see (I don't watch games anymore) there is one or more totally egregious, hand completely on the bottom of the ball like you would hold a bowling ball, violations that go uncalled. That's not skilled. It's a blatant rules violation that the league ignores because it creates offense.
And with the Euro step and the gather dribble you can basically take 4 steps without it being a travel. And block/charge is way more in favor of the offense. Moving screens are rarely called. They should be able to score at ease. That's not being more skilled. It's the rules being changed or ignored. Except for 3-pt shooting. They are much more skilled at that, but that doesn't make for a better game, especially when you have to watch all these 'dribbles' that are uncalled carries before getting to the 3 pointer. Would rather just watch an actual 3-pt contest.
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Ultimate Tiger [33437]
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Yeah yeah we get it get off yer lawn and all
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Jun 23, 2025, 5:19 AM
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Re: Yeah yeah we get it get off yer lawn and all
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Jun 23, 2025, 5:43 AM
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I remember the days of Bulls vs Pistons ..... Celtics vs Lakers ...
I try to watch some games but lose interest very quickly.
Be blessed.
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Ultimate Tiger [35054]
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Doubt it. Just look at the players contracts
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Jun 23, 2025, 5:56 AM
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If you rank the contracts from highest to lowest in yearly salary, you have to go all the way down to #474 before getting to someone making less than $1M per year
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Orange Elite [5150]
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Jun 23, 2025, 6:13 AM
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The NBA is not losing its luster
You’re losing desire in it yourself
It doesn’t align with what you want it to be anymore. So you could take it or leave it
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Hall of Famer [8470]
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Re: NBA is losing its luster
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Jun 23, 2025, 8:41 AM
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NBA Finals viewership this year was down 51% heading into game 7. I'd say that goes beyond this one guy "losing desire in it".
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National Champion [7302]
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Re: NBA is losing its luster
Jun 23, 2025, 7:50 PM
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When the Celtics, Bulls, or Lakers are not in the finals the ratings are going to drop.
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Clemson Icon [26637]
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Game Changer [1661]
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Jun 23, 2025, 6:29 AM
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Stop watching the NBA 20 yrs ago when the Me generation took over.. too much flash and all about the money 💰 🤑.... it's really bad today.. the NBA will never match the days of MJ23 , Kareem , Magic , Rodman , Stockton , Bird , Shaq , Kobe.....
Go Tigers!!
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Hall of Famer [8362]
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the agenda pushing international players to the top ruined the NBA
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Jun 23, 2025, 6:55 AM
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go Duke Alumni Adam Silver
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Orange Beast [6116]
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The NBA lost its luster long ago
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Jun 23, 2025, 8:05 AM
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....for me.
Stopped watching around the time Larry Bird retired. All of the chest thumping "look at me" theatrics, poor defense, lack of passing, etc ...made it unwatchable. Once Jordan retired I stopped paying attention on the internet.
I haven't watched a game in 30+ years, but it like they're losing fans again.
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its a boring brand of basketball.. very hands off and sanitized
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Jun 23, 2025, 8:16 AM
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i assume the officials call more ticky tack fouls is maybe the reason. The players dont' seem to have any personality or flair. The only hard nosed player out there is draymond green...really? That dude would get bullied if he played against Rick Mahorn or Bill Laimbeer. Not saying I'd rather see a boxing match as a basketball game but he seems like he's putting on an act moreso than being a gritty tough player himself.
The stars today are few and far between compared to the previous eras. I'd put maybe Jokovic as the only real active stud. Giannis would translate well. Lebron is falling off and is just a diva. He's a great talent but his demeanor is porcelain-esque and you can't pull for him and feel good about it. Steph Curry is fun to watch when he gets on run but I think he's starting to age out.
That game last night was like watching two average teams in the 80s and 90s. Alot of hands off jump shots, alot of bricks and well.. sanitized and boring is the best way to describe it. I'm guessing had Haliburton not went down it would have rounded out but is he really the story for it lacking. I don't know. Its a culmination of constantly rotating teams with free agency, touch fouls, and unattested jump shots, hoisting threes because you're scared to drive, and no personalities. been this way for a while now. Probably not going to change.
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Clemson Conqueror [11137]
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Re: NBA is losing its luster
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Jun 23, 2025, 8:25 AM
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If you had been around long enough to have watched the great games of the Celtics, 76ers, Knicks and others from back in the 60's and 70's, you would know why we don't watch today. The league is all about individuals today and when the rules of basketball were suspended to allow players to take as many steps as they wanted, my viewership was suspended too. Play true basketball and maybe I will watch more than just a minute here or there.
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Oculus Spirit [39770]
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HAS LOST *
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Jun 23, 2025, 8:43 AM
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Fixed it for ya 😉
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Playmaker [381]
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Jun 23, 2025, 8:58 AM
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Just don’t agree. College BB is boring and and is a triple a farm team. Go nuggets.
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National Champion [7302]
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Re: NBA is losing its luster
Jun 23, 2025, 7:52 PM
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Lebron says the same thing but idk how yall think that way. College is way more entertaining imo.
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Dynasty Maker [3265]
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The walking and palming drive me crazy. Its not
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Jun 23, 2025, 9:14 AM
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basketball.
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Orange Beast [6219]
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A turd not worth polishing
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Jun 23, 2025, 9:17 AM
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1-on-1 or jack up a 3 isn't really even basketball...
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1st Rounder [614]
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Re: A turd not worth polishing
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Jun 23, 2025, 9:27 AM
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When is it?
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Rival Killer [2855]
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yay, the weekly thread of all the
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Jun 23, 2025, 9:25 AM
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old white dudes talking about how irrelevant the NBA is, meanwhile it's bigger than ever before.
You're not the target audience.
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Hall of Famer [8104]
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the old heads have a frame of reference
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Jun 23, 2025, 10:00 AM
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its simply a comparison exercise between products. BTW I don't really know why race has to be injected into every topic on the planet but that is a product of what has been injected into our youth for the last 15 years as the top rationale for explaining all outcomes. Its played out hack and is boring at this point. Its possible race plays a role in maybe 2% of the naysayers but i would hedge my bets on the actual product and the excitement or lack thereof as the culprit. The racial mix of the league is no different than what it was 30 years ago.
"Bigger than ever before"...? Not true. Maybe bigger in budgets and reach but the product is nothing close to what it was in the 80s and 90s and the early 2000s. My hunch is its probably b/c of free agency and teams not being solidified as long. LEbron jumping from team to team or lobbying for other allstars to join his cast creates muddying of the waters and decrease fandom is my guess. That will probably never return therefore we're probably just stuck with what it is. The NBA finals used to be an awesome event. Must see TV. Now its like watching whatever random G-league game on ESPN ocho.
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Rival Killer [2855]
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You're entitled to not like
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Jun 23, 2025, 10:12 AM
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the style of play.
You're not entitled to pretend like everyone has quit watching the NBA and that "no one cares" about it anymore because not everyone is bumping elbows in the paint anymore.
Not saying you're doing that. But the tone of these threads is often "man, the NBA is dead" when the numbers indicate anything but.
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National Champion [7302]
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Re: the old heads have a frame of reference
Jun 23, 2025, 9:37 PM
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The nba was never more popular then in 2016. It has certainly faded since the. The fans like rivalries and right now there are not any.
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Playmaker [370]
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Hall of Famer [8345]
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Re: NBA is losing its luster
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Jun 23, 2025, 10:13 AM
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The game definitely has changed. The political part of it drove me away years ago.
If you aren't a liberal they don't want anything to do with you. They believe in free speech as long as it conforms to their beliefs.
Stay in the corner and keep your mouth shut.
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Re: NBA is losing its luster
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Jun 23, 2025, 10:49 AM
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You're still watching it??? Everyone I know quit watching it years ago when they went liberal.
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Paw Warrior [4821]
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Re: NBA is losing its luster
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Jun 23, 2025, 12:28 PM
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I haven't really watched it since the 90's. It has become a bunch of primadonnas who travel and don't play defense. I watched a 30 for 30 on Isaiah Thomas and the Pistons yesterday...that era was awesome...so physical and more entertaining.
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Re: NBA is losing its luster***
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Jun 23, 2025, 12:28 PM
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Re: NBA is losing its luster
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Jun 23, 2025, 12:29 PM
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What luster——that has been gone a long time ago
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Valley Legend [12221]
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Re: NBA is losing its luster
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Jun 23, 2025, 12:34 PM
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your title should have been "Lost" not losing.
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Offensive Star [337]
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Re: NBA is losing its luster
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Jun 23, 2025, 4:25 PM
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Didn't know we still had an NBA. Thanks for the info.
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Re: NBA is losing its luster
Jun 23, 2025, 7:21 PM
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Welcome to 1996.
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Campus Hero [13989]
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NBA has lost its luster!
Jun 23, 2025, 7:23 PM
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Fixed it for you!
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Game Changer [1635]
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Re: NBA has lost its luster!
Jun 23, 2025, 7:59 PM
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Some days I can't decide whether to go into Vine City to watch Hawks or Atlanta United.
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Campus Hero [13989]
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Re: NBA has lost its luster!
Jun 23, 2025, 11:01 PM
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Not giant soccer fan but AU would be easy decision for me.
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Heisman Winner [80338]
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Lost. Past tense.
Jun 23, 2025, 8:07 PM
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Been dead a long time. It’s just been denial.
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Rival Killer [3026]
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Since when has the NBA...
Jun 23, 2025, 8:29 PM
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...had luster?
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All-Conference [438]
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Lot of get off my lawn takes here
Jun 24, 2025, 7:26 AM
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How about any of you get on YouTube, pull up a random game from the 80s that doesn’t have Jordan or Bird playing and see how dull it is. How slow it is. How vanilla it is.
The NBA today is great. These finals were tremendous. It’s a shame Halliburton went down because that did make game 7 a bit less compelling. Not the product on the floor is much, MUCH better than it was decades ago.
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Commissioner [1243]
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Re: NBA is losing its luster
Jun 24, 2025, 8:10 AM
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OKC vs Indiana is weak anyway as far as hype. The Lakers suck now, but if it would have been Lakers vs Knicks it would have been more hyped up. The players weren't that interesting with either team in this series. Moving forward I think the Spurs will be interesting in a couple of years. They are stacked with draft picks over the next 5 years.
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