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Oculus Spirit [80374]
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Oh great.
Oct 6, 2021, 4:02 PM
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Now SI hates us too.
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110%er [6519]
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Re: Oh great.
Oct 6, 2021, 4:13 PM
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Funny, no one wants to hate on Alabama for winning half the national championships of the last 10 years, but Clemson has to go. Commentary in college football has suk’d for too long, TNet is all you need to read for the most part.
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110%er [6825]
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Re: Oh great.
Oct 6, 2021, 4:28 PM
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True but Bama never went to six straight playoffs...
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Re: Oh great.
Oct 6, 2021, 5:27 PM
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America is tired of Clemson. It’s obvious that everyone wants to see someone new play Alabama for the National Championship.
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Legend [17915]
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Re: Oh great.
Oct 6, 2021, 9:28 PM
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I don't think America is tired of Clemson. I think they are mad that Clemson is not what they should be - contenders. Expectations will not be met and the angst will continue.
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All-TigerNet [11067]
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don't feed the SI trolls***
Oct 6, 2021, 4:10 PM
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All-TigerNet [10824]
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Re: SI story on Clemson
Oct 6, 2021, 4:12 PM
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All true, but nothing we haven't heard or discussed many times in the past five weeks.
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Orange Blooded [4976]
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Re: SI story on Clemson
Oct 6, 2021, 4:29 PM
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Do you think the name of the "author" is legit.? I'd say it's more likely his name is Schlomo Silvers and is related to Elephant ears.
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110%er [5373]
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here's the truest and saddest thing from that article:
Oct 6, 2021, 4:36 PM
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It’s no secret the program does not develop offensive line talent at a rate commensurate with its peers in the sport’s upper echelon. Since Dabo Swinney took over at Clemson in 2009, the school has had only three offensive linemen drafted into the NFL. Alabama has had 14, Ohio State 11 and Oklahoma 10.
If you think things don't need to change, then you'd better get used to losing.
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Orange Blooded [4448]
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That’s the part that stuck out to me as well***
Oct 6, 2021, 5:09 PM
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Re: here's the truest and saddest thing from that article:
Oct 6, 2021, 5:44 PM
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What’s most interesting is that offensive line development (as measured by NFL draft) has only become a significant factor in 2021 and beyond. We did okay for the last decade with a crap line. But now that offensive line matters we better change everything about what we do.
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Correct. We did OK.
Oct 6, 2021, 6:53 PM
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Most of the games we have lost have been because of the OL. We haven’t had a really good OL since Danny Ford. Imagine how good we could be if we had a solid OL.
The OL problems are not our biggest problem. The persistent OL issues are actually a symptom of the problem. The problem is Dabo being stubborn, a bit arrogant, and overly loyal. Other elite coaches, especially the one Dabo will always get compared to, Nick Saban, would’ve resolve this problem a long time ago. Saban completely changed his offense and defense during the playoff era and I unlike Dabo he refuses to let the game pass him by such as the transfer portal and NIL.
Nick Saban hates losing more than he loves winning. I can appreciate that. I don’t think the same can be said for Dabo.
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Re: Correct. We did OK.
Oct 6, 2021, 6:55 PM
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None of the guys from those Danny Ford teams played in the NFL...
I mean, Les Hall went to some camps but never played in the NFL.
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All-TigerNet [12249]
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Umm... I guess you never heard of the Bostic brothers...***
Oct 6, 2021, 8:11 PM
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Re: Umm... I guess you never heard of the Bostic brothers...***
Oct 6, 2021, 8:31 PM
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They certainly played for Danny but pretty sure they both came to Clemson under Charley Pell. Kind of the exception that proves the rule.
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Re: Correct. We did OK.
Oct 6, 2021, 7:24 PM
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So the third greatest streak in poll era college football is “ok.”’ Gotcha. At least you have reasonable expectations.
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Head Coach [790]
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Re: here's the truest and saddest thing from that article:
Oct 6, 2021, 7:28 PM
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This comment is absurd on its face.
A) the last ten years are the best O-line recruiting in Clemson history as measured by industry rankings. If Caldwell is bad it’s a miracle we ever won a game before he got here.
B) what exactly has been the trajectory of this team since ‘11? Literally the 3rd best poll era college football team in history. Yeah, he’s a real sack of crap.
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Third best? Who is 2nd?***
Oct 6, 2021, 9:13 PM
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Re: Third best? Who is 2nd?***
Oct 6, 2021, 10:01 PM
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Alabama current streak (Clemson and Alabama were tied until 3 weeks ago and both have won 2 titles in the stretch). Miami 85-93 is tops (137 weeks on Top 10, 3 National Championships). Nebraska 93-98 is 4th. No one else is close.
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Re: here's the truest and saddest thing from that article:
Oct 6, 2021, 9:24 PM
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Good point. And since 2009, how many NC have those those 3 teams won. Sometimes you just have players who are good enough to win NCs but nowhere good enough to play on Sundays. I would guess that those same ratios would exist in other positions also...check it out.
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110%er [6681]
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Letterman [284]
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Re: When O line recruits and meet someone who looks like grandpa
Oct 6, 2021, 11:13 PM
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I guess he may "repel" some recruits. Guess you're saying he can't relate to today's players and you may be correct. I loved and learned a lot from my Grandfathers so I must be an outlier.
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Re: here's the truest and saddest thing from that article:
Oct 7, 2021, 2:06 PM
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I’ve thought about this as well, considering all the stud QBs, DLs, wide receivers and running back’s we get, where are the offensive linemen? We usually have one stud on the oline, and the rest are role players
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Re: SI story on Clemson
Oct 6, 2021, 5:36 PM
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SI started big but has not been relevant since the web became a thing. Their experts are funny.
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Re: SI story on Clemson
Oct 6, 2021, 9:17 PM
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SI started big but has not been relevant since the web became a thing. Their experts are funny.
Except for the swimsuit issue and even that has gone downhill.
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Re: SI story on Clemson
Oct 6, 2021, 5:50 PM
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I personally think it’s a decent analysis.
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Re: SI story on Clemson
Oct 6, 2021, 6:23 PM
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Football is most easily won with the big uglies up front . I don’t need a journalism major from Philadelphia Tech to tell me that. Dabo knows this. We have not recruited a lot of great offensive linemen and have developed even less. I’d like to see that change Right now.
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Re: SI story on Clemson
Oct 6, 2021, 7:16 PM
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With-out a average O-Line the average quarterbacks struggle. No new revelation there. Great QB play hides deficiencies elsewhere which is what has been happening for the last 8+ years at Clemson. Now that our QB is struggling the O-line play is magnified. We will loose atleast one more game this year unless we can improve.
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Re: SI story on Clemson
Oct 6, 2021, 9:08 PM
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I think we lose two more games if DJ does not improve. Maybe three.
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Re: SI story on Clemson
Oct 6, 2021, 6:33 PM
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I agree. The truth hurts but hopefully we will change and improve.
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Much easier on Clemson than TigerNet***
Oct 6, 2021, 6:45 PM
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